4merper4mer Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He's averaging 37 yards a game, 15 yards in his last outing. Has been making news for all the wrong reasons. Will need to learn the playbook on the fly with a coach who doesn't play new players until they've gotten every minute detail down. Even Running Backs. I can't see how he's a "winning it all" type of move. Again, I'm not paying more than a 4th for that kind of gamble with what we have financially and what's coming up in the Offseason. A 4th for a guy who is seemingly trying to make the Raiders look SMART to bypass him for Henry Ruggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 9 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He's averaging 37 yards a game, 15 yards in his last outing. Has been making news for all the wrong reasons. Will need to learn the playbook on the fly with a coach who doesn't play new players until they've gotten every minute detail down. Even Running Backs. I can't see how he's a "winning it all" type of move. Again, I'm not paying more than a 4th for that kind of gamble with what we have financially and what's coming up in the Offseason. josh demanded we sign cole last year to fix the offense. If josh says I want this guy you get him. Denver is losing a lot and seems to be dysfunctional from coaching to qb. Winning solves attitude problems. If he puts up numbers he makes more money either here or somewhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: josh demanded we sign cole last year to fix the offense. If josh says I want this guy you get him. Denver is losing a lot and seems to be dysfunctional from coaching to qb. Winning solves attitude problems. If he puts up numbers he makes more money either here or somewhere else Plus he’s a shiny object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 15 hours ago, BillsUberAlles said: He plays more like Judge Judy...no thanks. This...100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 15 hours ago, BillsUberAlles said: He plays more like Judge Judy...no thanks. He may be better Dancing with the Stars😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I’ve never seen juedy play in the nfl, but looking at his stats he put up some good numbers as a rookie and had one other very strong season. The Broncos are a wreck and that certainly is going to affect a WRs production. The Bills offense desperately needs a peerless price to take that next step into unstoppable. Davis is so meh. Diggs wore out his well one in Minnesota but has been nothing but great here. I could see this juedy guy benefiting from a fresh start. A better team structure, with a top QB, and playing the #2 role, he could excel and get his confidence back. This Allows Davis some better matchups, gets Diggs more 1v1, etc. best of all his value is probably dirt low. A mid round pick is likely what it would cost, and a mid round draft pick is usually not an impact player. Add in the fact that if we halls via free agency- we could easily get a comp pick back!!! And people always over value draft picks. Look at our draft picks from 2021 (now third year players) Boogie Basham in the 2nd - traded for some used footballs Spencer Brown 3rd - plays but not that well Tommy Doyle 5th - I don’t think he’s on the team anymore we had (3) 6th round picks Damar Hamlin is the only one you’d know and that’s more because of his injury. In the 7th we took some guy I never heard of who is delivering packages for Amazon right now. so basically, in hindsight, trading our 2nd, 5th, three 6s and a 7th for Juedy would be a pretty good value trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, peterpan said: I’ve never seen juedy play in the nfl, but looking at his stats he put up some good numbers as a rookie and had one other very strong season. The Broncos are a wreck and that certainly is going to affect a WRs production. The Bills offense desperately needs a peerless price to take that next step into unstoppable. Davis is so meh. Diggs wore out his well one in Minnesota but has been nothing but great here. I could see this juedy guy benefiting from a fresh start. A better team structure, with a top QB, and playing the #2 role, he could excel and get his confidence back. This Allows Davis some better matchups, gets Diggs more 1v1, etc. best of all his value is probably dirt low. A mid round pick is likely what it would cost, and a mid round draft pick is usually not an impact player. Add in the fact that if we halls via free agency- we could easily get a comp pick back!!! And people always over value draft picks. Look at our draft picks from 2021 (now third year players) Boogie Basham in the 2nd - traded for some used footballs Spencer Brown 3rd - plays but not that well Tommy Doyle 5th - I don’t think he’s on the team anymore we had (3) 6th round picks Damar Hamlin is the only one you’d know and that’s more because of his injury. In the 7th we took some guy I never heard of who is delivering packages for Amazon right now. so basically, in hindsight, trading our 2nd, 5th, three 6s and a 7th for Juedy would be a pretty good value trade. He hasn't had a 1000 yard season yet in 4 years, but Garrett Wilson did with Zach Wilson throwing him the ball as a rookie last year and so did Chris Olave throwing with Old Man Dalton throwing him the ball. As another poster so eloquently put it...Jerry Jeudy plays more like Judge Judy. Edited October 20, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: He hasn't had a 1000 yard season yet in 4 years, but Garrett Wilson did with Zach Wilson throwing him the ball as a rookie last year and so did Chris Olave throwing with Old Man Dalton throwing him the ball. As another poster so eloquently put it...Jerry Jeudy plays more like Judge Judy. I think the 5th year options is the big deterrent to me. He has a guaranteed 13M deal for next year so with our cap situation that means you basically have to extend him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 What’s Knox cap hit if he is cut this off-season? He seems to be the most overpaid player on the team and the most replaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, peterpan said: What’s Knox cap hit if he is cut this off-season? He seems to be the most overpaid player on the team and the most replaceable. No out until 2024 so he will be back, no savings to cut him. Id probably have more interest in adam thielen than jeudy tbh. Can fit him in 2023 cap and his 2024 hit isn't excessive. He also brings a skill set that we're needing more than jeudy. Edited October 20, 2023 by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, peterpan said: What’s Knox cap hit if he is cut this off-season? He seems to be the most overpaid player on the team and the most replaceable. Who is your replacement? J Smith, H Hunter, D Njoku? All in the same range. D Waller at $17M? Good, experienced TEs cost in the range of Knox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said: Who is your replacement? J Smith, H Hunter, D Njoku? All in the same range. D Waller at $17M? Good, experienced TEs cost in the range of Knox. Knox has too many drops. A guy like Foster Moreau might fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Knox has too many drops. A guy like Foster Moreau might fit. Isn't it amazing how bad teams are almost defined by being in position to make easy plays but so often not making them? Like the Giants being on the 1 yard line at the end of both halves last week but coming away with 0 points. Edited October 20, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said: Who is your replacement? J Smith, H Hunter, D Njoku? All in the same range. D Waller at $17M? Good, experienced TEs cost in the range of Knox. Kinkaid dude. Kinkaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, peterpan said: Kinkaid dude. Kinkaid. I disagree, the hope is for Kincaid to be much more pass catching oriented. Kincaid's role will be different, much more slanted towards a big slot, a hands guy. Knox is a more rounded, traditional TE. There is plenty of room for both IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I don’t care if it’s Jeudy, Renfrow, call up Isabella, I think he’s washed or else even Beasley, Bills need another player who can get separation. A security blanket for josh. I’m hoping that is what Kincaid becomes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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