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Israel and the Slaughter in Gaza


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5 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Got anyone better than Pramila Patten

Man I can send you God almighty and you won’t listen 

 

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

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9 minutes ago, Justice said:

Man I can send you God almighty and you won’t listen 

 

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

I'm totally serious, Patten is a left wing, social justice warrior. Anyone could have predicted to a tee her position on this conflict.

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So today, under the guise of national security, we passed a bill that can force a company to sell (I wonder to whom) or cease to exist.
 

Oh trust me it will be sold and I can bet anything a certain demographic will have control of that app. 
 

Good luck, sheep. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, Justice said:

It’s back to 1400 again huh? No mention of Israel killing many of the actual number. Ah yes. You’re a good dog. 

22 hours ago, Andy1 said:

The reporter in the Aljazeera video you posted above acknowledges that a “very significant majority of the casualties” were the result of Hamas actions that day. Are you saying that all the casualties were from Israel firing on or otherwise killing their own people? 

Did I say that????!???!?


Easy now. I was only asking for clarification on your perspective since you seem to assign more blame on Israel for what happened that day than to Hamas. I know you condemn Hamas. You have also emphasized there was no mass rape and Israel killed their own people. Some Israelis dying from friendly fire is probably likely, but that was not the main cause of deaths. The UN found evidence of many rapes, gang rapes etc. I have seen no evidence to indicate those reports were false. 
 

If your position is Hamas is responsible for the vast majority of the deaths, the kidnapping and probably a lot of other horrible actions that day, we each view it about the same way. Netanyahu seems like an idiot for his actions and inaction leading up to that day. Maybe he had some sick wish for an attack to occur, I don’t know. Sadly, the result of the attack and war is what the extremists on both sides want. 
 

 

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23 minutes ago, Andy1 said:


Easy now. I was only asking for clarification on your perspective since you seem to assign more blame on Israel for what happened that day than to Hamas. I know you condemn Hamas. You have also emphasized there was no mass rape and Israel killed their own people. Some Israelis dying from friendly fire is probably likely, but that was not the main cause of deaths. The UN found evidence of many rapes, gang rapes etc. I have seen no evidence to indicate those reports were false. 
 

If your position is Hamas is responsible for the vast majority of the deaths, the kidnapping and probably a lot of other horrible actions that day, we each view it about the same way. Netanyahu seems like an idiot for his actions and inaction leading up to that day. Maybe he had some sick wish for an attack to occur, I don’t know. Sadly, the result of the attack and war is what the extremists on both sides want. 
 

 


The blame is mainly on Hamas. No doubt about that. As for the rape charges Israel didn’t allow an investigation. The UN got their intell from Israel. I don’t trust it. Not saying it didn’t happen at all. Just saying I’m sure the numbers are heavily skewed. Also those burnt bodies could not have been done by Hamas. No way.

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

It’s all in reaction to the rampant Islamophobia that’s out there. I thought it had died down after peaking around noon on 9/11/01 but I guess I am wrong. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

It’s all in reaction to the rampant Islamophobia that’s out there. I thought it had died down after peaking around noon on 9/11/01 but I guess I am wrong. 

 

 


But, but, but…CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM!!! 

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February 27 interview with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu (below).

This is an intensely interesting discussion of “everything from the strategic goals of the war, historic comparisons, to the progress of the IDF.”

It is worth your time. The give-and-take between Spencer and Netanyahu makes this must viewing.

 

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

February 27 interview with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu (below).

This is an intensely interesting discussion of “everything from the strategic goals of the war, historic comparisons, to the progress of the IDF.”

It is worth your time. The give-and-take between Spencer and Netanyahu makes this must viewing.

 

 

 

Good video. 

Netanyahu is always a clear headed, impassioned yet reasonable speaker.

He is on his way out, but his explanation of the Israeli "sense" of this clear, correct and unmistakable.

Like him or not, we have no such leadership here.

Our current office holder is totally incapable of such an interview.

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3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

 

What he's saying is silly, but it just goes to show you how hypocritical Dems are.  But it's hard to disobey your masters...

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I've Won an Argument about Israel I Wish I Hadn't

DAVID BERNSTEIN 

 

Over my 20+ years of blogging at Volokh, commenters have often questioned why I focused my attention on what I saw as unfair attacks on Israel, rather than on Israeli policies I disagreed with that might be obstacles to a future peace deal. My response was consistent: debates over specific Israeli policies were a sideshow. Israel's harshest critics simply wanted Israel to cease to exist, and given that this goal could likely be achieved only via genocide, I chose to focus my attention on that. My commenters were also pretty consistent, arguing that I was being paranoid, that the vast majority of critics, even the harshest ones, wanted a two-state solution, not to eliminate Israel.

 

We have had something of a test of this debate since 10/7. Hamas is a terrorist theocracy with explicitly genocidal goals. It carried out a taste of those goals on 10/7, and its leaders promised to repeat those atrocities again and again until the "Zionists" were driven from Israel.

 

So whatever one thinks of Israeli policy, or Israel's eventual response to 10/7, one would think, based on my interlocutors' position, that critics of Israeli policy would nevertheless agree on one thing: Hamas must be deposed, one way or another. There is no plausible two-state solution with Hamas in power; the harsh critics are almost all self-styled progressives, and there is nothing progressive about Hamas's policies toward freedom of religion, LGBTQ rights, women, militarism, antisemitism, and so on, nor its constant theft of humanitarian aid. Hamas's rule in Gaza is essentially every Progressive's worst nightmare.

 

Yet, ever since at least 10/10, when it became clear that Israel's reaction to Hamas's atrocities was not going to be to capitulate, the harsh critics have been all but unanimous in calling for Israel to essentially surrender ("immediate ceasefire") with Hamas still in power, and have almost to a person not called on Hamas to surrender and abdicate. (And self-styled human rights organizations have felt free to make up human rights law, including contradicting their own past public positions in other conflicts.)

 

I have to admit that I underestimated the mendacity of these people.

 

As much as I knew that they hated Israel much more than they were concerned with the well-being of Palestinians, I didn't imagine that they would be willing to run interference for, if not outright support, Hamas, certainly not after Hamas put its brutality and genocidal intentions on display for all the world to see. 

 

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/03/17/ive-won-an-argument-about-israel-i-wish-i-hadnt/

 

 

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1 hour ago, Justice said:

We all have our fair share #######s 

 

 

Except for the reality that one is legal in Israel.  

 

in Palestine, same thing gets you thrown off roofs or stoned.

 

 

 

In Islam, what are the people that refuse to convert?

 

Aslim Taslim?  Fatwa?

 

 

 

 sharia law is regressive to minorities.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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