leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Valid. I wonder how the heck this doesn't fall under Unlawful restraint or False imprisonment. I don't know anything about that, Irish. I'm thinking purely on an emotional level. I had the same thoughts regarding COVID lockdowns, when people in leadership positions decreed that people infected with COVID would be barred from visits/comfort from family and loved ones, left to die alone. My young son was choking many years ago, and the emotions were running very high as the ***** 911 team dispatched the ambulance to the wrong address. Thankfully, we cleared it, but I have to tell you---in a scenario where with someone lying in my way, and it's us v them, I have to think I vote us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Holy cow John, you're an abortion purist? Abortion to just prior to delivery, no questions asked? No, I do not believe in that Someone can believe that a woman has a right to choose, and still believe that there needs to be a situational basis I’ve always thought that the rule on how many abortions you could actually have a long way when an abortion would be accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Rubber bullets/ tasers or if they fail, bulldozers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wacka said: Rubber bullets/ tasers or if they fail, bulldozers. How about just drop a nuke. It worked for us with Japan. Oh... You meant the protesters. Yeah. Nuke 'em too. 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 hours ago, John from Riverside said: No, I do not believe in that Someone can believe that a woman has a right to choose, and still believe that there needs to be a situational basis Ah, you believe in the right to choose, but with sensible restrictions based on your moral or societal standards. 10 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve always thought that the rule on how many abortions you could actually have a long way when an abortion would be accepted I don’t know what this means, but it’s sounds troubling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 21 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Morons…. Genocide is what Hamas intends to do to Israel. If Israel wanted to do genocide, they would not provide evacuations for civilians, the hospitals would be dust, and Gaza would be flat by now. The Palestinians are martyrs sacrificed by Hamas for their delusional fantasies. The war can end tomorrow if Hamas releases the hostages and lays down their weapons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Ah, you believe in the right to choose, but with sensible restrictions based on your moral or societal standards. I don’t know what this means, but it’s sounds troubling. To someone that doesn’t believe in women’s rights, it would be troubling I don’t believe in last minute abortions I also don’t believe that you should take away a woman’s right to an abortion within limits. Keep in mind that there are people out there, trying to make it so that you can’t get an abortion when raped or for ***** I’ve seen people taking it one step further than that, and trying to take away birth control 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: within limits you're the minority in your party then. There are also voices that want to make abortion on demand legal till birth. like NY Not having a rape exemption is effing nuts. but then again, we saw with that ten-year-old rape victim. extremist will travel vs getting the rapist off the streets. We should have Free and on demand BC. But in turn we should then have free STD screenings and care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: T I don’t believe in last minute abortions I also don’t believe that you should take away a woman’s right to an abortion within limits. Keep in mind that there are people out there, trying to make it so that you can’t get an abortion when raped or for ***** I’ve seen people taking it one step further than that, and trying to take away birth control John, you were talking about multiple abortions like it represents a "Buy 10 Pizzas, Get One Free" card. That's troubling and has nothing at all to do with my perspective on women's rights. I agree with you that abortion needs to be an option for people to pursue. It certainly should be an option for people victimized as you've laid out. Yes, there are people who believe life begins at conception and abortion is always wrong. There are people who believe abortion to the point of delivery should be an option. My point is always the same--for people not on the extreme, there are millions of people debating where the right to abort ends, and the law steps in. There are millions debating what funding should look like, who should pay for what and how. I'll say offer one last thought, whether intended or not, your statement "To someone that doesn’t believe in women’s rights, it would be troubling" reflects the arrogance and dismissiveness of the stereotypical modern liberal. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: John, you were talking about multiple abortions like it represents a "Buy 10 Pizzas, Get One Free" card. That's troubling and has nothing at all to do with my perspective on women's rights. I agree with you that abortion needs to be an option for people to pursue. It certainly should be an option for people victimized as you've laid out. Yes, there are people who believe life begins at conception and abortion is always wrong. There are people who believe abortion to the point of delivery should be an option. My point is always the same--for people not on the extreme, there are millions of people debating where the right to abort ends, and the law steps in. There are millions debating what funding should look like, who should pay for what and how. I'll say offer one last thought, whether intended or not, your statement "To someone that doesn’t believe in women’s rights, it would be troubling" reflects the arrogance and dismissiveness of the stereotypical modern liberal. When I talk about multiple abortions, I’m thinking in the terms of everybody can makes a mistake, so my usual number in this area is one I think it is not productive for women to have multiple, because not only is it not good for their body but clearly the lesson has not been learned Use your damn birth control, and think a little bit. What I mean to say here is that you can have an opinion on this without being totally on one side or the other of the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: When I talk about multiple abortions, I’m thinking in the terms of everybody can makes a mistake, so my usual number in this area is one I think it is not productive for women to have multiple, because not only is it not good for their body but clearly the lesson has not been learned Use your damn birth control, and think a little bit. What I mean to say here is that you can have an opinion on this without being totally on one side or the other of the issue In other words, you support reasonableness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 just sitting back and thinking how the media and prochoice folks would be about a law that limited abortions to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 How's the war in Israel going ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: just sitting back and thinking how the media and prochoice folks would be about a law that limited abortions to 1. They probably wouldn’t like it This is my own point of virwI think it’s reasonable Sometimes things can just be settled with a little bit of compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: When I talk about multiple abortions, I’m thinking in the terms of everybody can makes a mistake, so my usual number in this area is one I think it is not productive for women to have multiple, because not only is it not good for their body but clearly the lesson has not been learned Use your damn birth control, and think a little bit. What I mean to say here is that you can have an opinion on this without being totally on one side or the other of the issue Gotcha. I was under the impression that when counting abortions, your theory was 3 or 4 is ok, but by 5 or 6, you gotta pick up the tab yourself. I am just trying to keep it real. You seem like you're waffling, this whole not being on one side or the other. You're on a side---the side that favors the government establishing rules about access to abortion, when that option should be available, and when that option transitions from a person's right to choose to a child's right to be born. 33 minutes ago, Tiberius said: In other words, you support reasonableness. Yes! John supports reasonable restrictions--restrictions on onerous government regulations, restrictions on the time frame when a person can have an abortion. This is easy when people stop dancing around the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 18 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: How about just drop a nuke. It worked for us with Japan. Oh... You meant the protesters. Yeah. Nuke 'em too. 😏 Good idea, but I have a friend that needs use that bridge to get to work every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I think it is not productive for women to have multiple, because not only is it not good for their body but clearly the lesson has not been learned Use your damn birth control, and think a little bit. This is why abortion is such a great thing for men. Who wants to take a shower with a rain coat on? If she gets pregnant make her go to planned parenthood for an abortion. Abortion may be great for women but it's even better for men who are pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yall Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 10 hours ago, B-Man said: This is true than people would like to admit. China killing, jailing, and sending Uighurs to reeducation camps? Silence. Armenian genocide by the Turks? Denied and even voted against being recognized by Muslim members of Congress. Current genocide going on in multiple places in Africa (Darfour, Sudan, etc)? No a *****in peep. The Muslim world hates Jews/Israel. It's codified in their texts and they're doing a great job with their propaganda and stoking anti-Semitism around the world while they subjugate women and non-believers. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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