BillStime Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 🎯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 8 hours ago, sherpa said: What's going on now is the attempted, promised elimination of Hamas. Really smart guys in a room to figure out tunnel warfare? How about Iwo Jima? Didn't work there, and there were few civilians. Sure. These really smart guys can figure out how to spare lives and just get the bad guys without other casualties. Just nonsense.Not possible but not black/white. less innocents is better One late, additional note. The Iranian backed Houthis in Yemen shot down a US Reaper drone yesterday. They did this while the Reaper was in international airspace, technically an act of war. All you need to know about the Houthis is contained in their slogan: "God is the greatest. Death to America. Death to Israel. Cursed be the Jews. Blessed be Islam." We'll see if there is a response, but an undisputed act of war is generally responded to. In addition, Eisenhower must transit just south of Yemen to get where it's going. Could be some tense times on that portion of her repositioning. Not possible but not black/white. less innocents involved=better for everyone, esp innocents https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/09/tensions-high-as-germany-prepares-to-mark-kristallnacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Lots of questions here about how Israel should handle this situation. It’s extremely difficult to answer that question. Nobody can argue with a people fighting for their future, their land, their way of life. This goes both ways. There is no easy way out. All I know is violence will only bring more violence and the cycle will continue no matter what happens to Hamas. Some other group will take their place. The best defense is peace. A real peace. I believe more than anything who you side with in this conflict says a lot about each and every one of us. My parents were born in Palestine and were forced to flee in 67. I recognize Israel’s right to exist. I also think Palestinians are entitled to their own land too. Lots of people argue Palestine never existed. I for one don’t care what you call it. Fact is Arabs were there and have a legitimate claim. The Jewish people also have a legitimate claim. So where do we turn from here? I stand with both. I stand with peace. The holy land belongs to everyone imo. Christians, the Jewish people and Muslims. From what I understand evangelicals need Israel to belong to the Jewish people so that Jesus can return and bring about end of times. Muslims also believe the same exact thing but believe Jesus will side with the Muslims. Most Jewish people believe it’s a miracle the Jewish people regained control of Israel therefore they’re entitled to the land now and that this will expedite the return of their messiah and bring about peace. If you ask me they’re taking a huge risk in overtaking the land now. They’re not supposed to be there. The scriptures said they would be exiled. It clearly states Israel will not exist until their messiah returns. Orthodox Jews who support Palestine are the vast minority but they fear the creation of a Jewish state now is against God’s plan. Even if you don’t agree with the Neturei Karta there are still dangers in backing an Israeli state. They believe their temple is below Al-Aqsa mosque. They want to destroy Al-Aqsa and build their temple. This will surely lead to even more wars and chaos. Which leads me to what I want and what I’ve always wanted. A one state solution where everyone has equal rights. We need to delay end of times for as long as possible as far as I’m concerned. How can one justify supporting anything that can lead to end of times? Everyone slams Iran for trying to destroy Israel to bring about end of times and rightfully so. But what about the USA? Our support will lead to the same results. This situation is a clusterf**k. There is no winning here for anybody. F it. Officially rename it the holy land and give equal rights to everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 A one state solution is like the song imagine. It sounds good. But doesn't seem logistically possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 19 hours ago, Tiberius said: Get a bunch of really smart guys in a room and figure a way to wage tunnel war. Have you been reading “Modern Military Strategy” by Colonel Klink again? It’s a bit dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Have you been reading “Modern Military Strategy” by Colonel Klink again? It’s a bit dated. My dad met the actor who played Klink. ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Irv said: Houthis? That's a new one. Is it just me or are there too many of these ***** terrorist groups that hate the US and/or Israel? I'm sure I left some out. WTF. Houthis al-Qaeda Isis Hamas Hezbollah PLO Boko Haram Mujahideen Islamic jihad Muslim Brotherhood Palestine Liberation Front Taliban DNC BLM The entire Ivy League Antifa NAACP City Councils of Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, NYC, DC, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, list too lengthy to mention. The Squad Clinton Foundation Nice job Biden encouraging these losers. What a mess. All commies/modern day nazis. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Hillary is correct. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 If Israel doesn’t stand down they risk alienating Muslims! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Wacka said: All commies/modern day nazis. You're an idiot. 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: If Israel doesn’t stand down they risk alienating Muslims! Yes, Arabs have oil. Israelis don't 18 hours ago, sherpa said: I am not going to waste time taking your assignments. Do your own work. Start by comparing a horrible event by a small, independent unit to an attack planned for a year and including the entire terrorist group. Same can be said for abu ghraib. That was basically one night shift of one small unit. Horrible, but not a military strategy being executed. Additionally, those were prosecuted under the UCMJ. Think the leadership of Hamas is going to prosecute? They planned it. That is nothing like the planning and barbarism under which the Hamas invasion, rape, beheading, torture, burning, evisceration of fetuses was undertaken as a controlled, planned strategy. You outdo yourself every day. Simply unimaginable how someone could conclude what you regularly do. pretty typical engage ion the part of the debate you like and refuse to engage issues you don't. Your prerogative. but it's disingenuous....did they kick you off the naval academy debate team? you'd never have made 1st string there of all places. smart folks. Edited November 10, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: You're an idiot. Yes, Arabs have oil. Israelis don't pretty typical engage ion the part of the debate you like and refuse to engage issues you don't. Your prerogative. but it's disingenuous.... tommy sophisticate responds....do some gesturing. need a laugh. Edited November 10, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 looks like the ***** bird started the liquid diet a bit early today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: looks like the ***** bird started the liquid diet a bit early today. u wish. but I could destroy your arguments after 5 old fashions at the club. no etch at all, not that u deserve a response scumbag. I am going to the club this afternoon and may imbibe 1 or 2 after my golf lesson. Edited November 10, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 lol, its four sheets to the wind. IF you cant do it sober, you cant do it drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: lol, its four sheets to the wind. IF you cant do it sober, you cant do it drunk you can't do it at all. loser. i'm not going to defend myself from the court jester. your credibility is a joke Let's go. this should be fun btw, the saying is "3 sheets to the wind" moron three sheets to the wind To be “three sheets to the wind” is to be drunk. The sheet is the line that controls the sails on a ship. If the line is not secured, the sail flops in the wind, and the ship loses headway and control. If all three sails are loose, the ship is out of control. Guessing u never sailed..... Edited November 10, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: You're an idiot. Yes, Arabs have oil. Israelis don't pretty typical engage ion the part of the debate you like and refuse to engage issues you don't. Your prerogative. but it's disingenuous....did they kick you off the naval academy debate team? you'd never have made 1st string there of all places. smart folks. Ya know hawk, there aren't many here you can hold your own against in an argument but believe me, trying to have a battle of wits with sherpa is a fantastic waste of your time. You are simply no match, and that is not a challenge to you it's just the plain truth. My advice to you is stop making yourself look anymore foolish and refrain from engaging with him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Ya know hawk, there aren't many here you can hold your own against in an argument but believe me, trying to have a battle of wits with sherpa is a fantastic waste of your time. You are simply no match, and that is not a challenge to you it's just the plain truth. My advice to you is stop making yourself look anymore foolish and refrain from engaging with him. keep your day job. you'll never make an official. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: u wish. but I could destroy your arguments after 5 old fashions at the club. I'm not sure what your "club" serves, but the implication is that you are referring to a drink, called an "old fashioned." An "old fashion" is bell bottomed pants. Still, enjoy your golf lesson as summer ends in Virginia today, and have a great afternoon, but stay away from those old fashions. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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