Trump wants to ban ABORTION, IVF, MIFEPRISTONE nationwide and JAIL doctors who provide care.

[BillStime]

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[The Frankish Reich]

40 minutes ago, BillStime said:

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True. But notice that thing about "negotiating position?" 

Poor Ron DeSantis can't win for losing. Trump already feels confident enough with the Republican base that he's ready to criticize Ronnie for a 6 week abortion ban and to move on to what he thinks is a more palatable position in the general. And Ron is left twisting in the Florida wind, outflanked by Pence and his religious right fellow travelers on the anti-abortion stance, and by Trump to his left.

[BillStime]

11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

True. But notice that thing about "negotiating position?" 

Poor Ron DeSantis can't win for losing. Trump already feels confident enough with the Republican base that he's ready to criticize Ronnie for a 6 week abortion ban and to move on to what he thinks is a more palatable position in the general. And Ron is left twisting in the Florida wind, outflanked by Pence and his religious right fellow travelers on the anti-abortion stance, and by Trump to his left.

That still won’t help Trump in the general. 
 

Conald cannot be trusted - with anything. 

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bloodthirsty for baby killing ...fking ghouls

[Andy1]

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

part of trumps interview on MTP this weekend covered abortion… he took a moderate position.  Effectively said 70% of people think it’s a necessary evil but shouldn’t be allowed after a certain time, tossed out 15 weeks as a starting point to be negotiated and understood exceptions. don’t know if it’s a new platform tactic or his view. 

 

while life at conception and kill ‘em in the fourth trimester extremes won’t like it, it sounded reasonable. 
 

Yes, politicians aren’t allowed to actually work that way in DC, but it sounded nice anyway. 
 

the new anchor was fuming at the message and kept trying to re-narrate him to banning language. she hated the answer because it sounded so damn reasonable 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 5/17/2023 at 8:13 AM, SUNY_amherst said:

trump is declining to say whether he supports a national abortion ban. He is getting all wishy-washy politician on everyone

He's a con man and the cult buys it.  Nuff said.  good lord ,what a sorry populace for a once great country.

54 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

part of trumps interview on MTP this weekend covered abortion… he took a moderate position.  Effectively said 70% of people think it’s a necessary evil but shouldn’t be allowed after a certain time, tossed out 15 weeks as a starting point to be negotiated and understood exceptions. don’t know if it’s a new platform tactic or his view. 

 

while life at conception and kill ‘em in the fourth trimester extremes won’t like it, it sounded reasonable. 
 

Yes, politicians aren’t allowed to actually work that way in DC, but it sounded nice anyway. 
 

the new anchor was fuming at the message and kept trying to re-narrate him to banning language. she hated the answer because it sounded so damn reasonable 

He has no beliefs other than what gets him what he wants...

Edited September 20, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Pokebball]

41 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

He's a con man and the cult buys it.  Nuff said.  good lord ,what a sorry populace for a once great country.

He has no beliefs other than what gets him what he wants...

Trump is responsible for RvW being overturned.

[John from Riverside]

On 4/16/2023 at 5:35 PM, BillStime said:

 

I’m telling you this is gonna be a killer at the ballot box for the Republicans
 

This is a very polarizing issue and wildly unpopular

5 hours ago, Andy1 said:

 

It’s simple Ron DeSantis is a true believer, love him or hate he believes in what he says

 

Donald Trump is a grifter. He doesn’t really believe in anything except for lining his own pockets. He doesn’t care about anyone he wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

 

Which ever way the wind blows that’s beneficial for him. That’s the way he’s going. He has absolutely no real conviction.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

50 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Trump is responsible for RvW being overturned.

it was expedient.  u bought it.  he don't care one way or the other....how many illegitimate babies did he father?

Edited September 20, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[John from Riverside]

On 5/16/2023 at 6:16 PM, BillStime said:

Can you elaborate on the lies?

 

 

They literally approved a right wing source of information in the schools to be taught in academics in Florida. I have no idea with this guy is talking about.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

He has no beliefs other than what gets him what he wants...

So then he does have the basic qualification to be a politician after all! 😂 

Also I don’t give a ***** what he believes or doesn’t, all I’m saying is he articulated a pretty reasonable perspective on the topic, one that I believe is an overwhelming majority position. 

[Pokebball]

10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

it was expedient.  u bought it.  he don't care one way or the other....how many illegitimate babies did he father?

I really don't care what he cares. He is responsible for the swing in the SCOTUS and that's huge, and will remain huge for a long time.

[Tommy Callahan]

27 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

I really don't care what he cares. He is responsible for the swing in the SCOTUS and that's huge, and will remain huge for a long time.

Some blame RBG for not stepping down when a dem could have nominated another dem. even she knew it was very shaky.

 

And at the end of the day. it was a Shady funded PAC that fought the 15 week limit and took row to the supreme court.

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

26 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Some blame RBG for not stepping down when a dem could have nominated another dem. even she knew it was very shaky.

 

And at the end of the day. it was a Shady funded PAC that fought the 15 week limit and took row to the supreme court.

 

 

the fact it has been a Supreme Court interpretation all this time just proves that the issue is a political pawn they refuse to address. I’m sure more that two thirds of the country would agree to something in the middle codify it into law and we could call it a day. 
 

I’ve rarely heard the Don say something I can agree with like this, but that should be the position we all demand, so the pols can stop hiding behind these polarizing extremes and actually do some real work. 

[Tommy Callahan]

32 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’m sure more that two thirds of the country would agree to something in the middle codify it into law and we could call it a day.

ITs America. we don't agree on anything:) and PACS "poison pill" any debate on this topic, for whatever reason.

 

16 weeks?  20?   I think most reasonable people would find some compromise.

 

But if Row was already Ruled as a state's issue, how would they codify it, without it running into the same issue.

 

 

And a pet peeve. Why would or are we even considering calling medical procedures like ectopic pregnancy, an abortion. Seems like this would be low hanging fruit to fix.  

Same with children/women that are pregnant by rape or *****. It shouldn't even be a debate. but also believe law enforcement needs to be involved.  (Predators don't stop till someone/something stops them)

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 hours ago, Pokebball said:

I really don't care what he cares.

of course you don't.  Principles are meaningless when you are MAGA

Edited September 20, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[BillStime]

Love how these idiots keep creating campaign ads for Biden
 

 

[Tiberius]

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In just the last week, Donald Trump called Florida’s six-week abortion ban “terrible,” refused to endorse national restrictions, blamed abortion opponents for Republicans’ 2022 election disappointments and pledged to compromise with Democrats on the issue if elected.

Anti-abortion groups can’t agree on what to do about it.

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/21/trump-anti-abortion-groups-00117260

 

He packed the court with corrupt anti-abortion clowns and now wants nothing to do with what he created 

[The Frankish Reich]

45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/21/trump-anti-abortion-groups-00117260

 

He packed the court with corrupt anti-abortion clowns and now wants nothing to do with what he created 

That's Trump. 

Most other politicians feel the need to at least somewhat rationalize/explain their changes in core positions. Trump moved from being "very pro choice" c. 2000 to America's leading pro-life/anti-abortion champion c. 2016. Fools like Ron DeSantis thought they'd outflank him on the pro-life side. Now that Trump (through his Supreme Court appointments, abetted by Mitch McConnell's chicanery) got Roe overturned, he'd be out there with the almost total abortion ban in Florida. What could go wrong?

He forgot that he's dealing with an opponent with absolutely no qualms, no need to even pretend that his positions are consistent. Trump gets the everlasting support of a lot of anti-abortion types for finally getting Roe off the books, but he's not about to let himself get stuck with an unpopular general election position.