Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: One could say the same about Houch Dean, it would seem. His tens and tens of post-primal-scream admirers weren’t enough to carry the day. It happens, Red, and revisiting is doesn’t help anyone. Well, it helps me because that clip is priceless. no f'in idea what your on about. I liked Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Idealism is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 If a primal scream was enough to take him down, he wasn't that great of a candidate to begin with, was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: no f'in idea what your on about. I liked Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Idealism is fine by me. You’re on a 45 minute bender about a guy who’s presidential aspirations ended nearly 20 years ago, and don’t know what I’m about? I understand you thought he was the real deal and that others couldn’t see his brilliance for what it was. I’ll end where I started—it’s a funny clip, and for my money, one of the funniest. That’s pretty much it with regard to Howard Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You’re on a 45 minute bender about a guy who’s presidential aspirations ended nearly 20 years ago, and don’t know what I’m about? I understand you thought he was the real deal and that others couldn’t see his brilliance for what it was. I’ll end where I started—it’s a funny clip, and for my money, one of the funniest. That’s pretty much it with regard to Howard Dean. sadly, I agree. In todays America there's no place for a man like him. Now trump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: it's a sound you hear from real people with real convictions and emotions. Like ones going to do 10-15 in Sing Sing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Wacka said: Like ones going to do 10-15 in Sing Sing. i suspect he's doing just fine in Vermont Peggy Noonan wrote in the Wall Street Journal that he doesn't seem like a WASP. I know it's not nice to deal in stereotypes, but there seems very little Thurston Howell, III, or George Bush, the elder, for that matter, in Mr. Dean. ... He seems unpolished, doesn't hide his aggression, is proudly pugnacious. He doesn't look or act the part of the WASP ... It will be harder for Republicans to tag Mr. Dean as Son of the Maidstone Club than it was for Democrats to tag Bush One as Heir to Greenwich Country Day. He just doesn't act the part.[18] Edited January 22, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: sadly, I agree. In todays America there's no place for a man like him. Now trump... Well, at the risk of derailing this topic even further, put your political animus on hold for 30 seconds. What Donald Trump accomplished was unprecedented in American politics. He was the butt of jokes and commentary throughout his campaign, and was subject to breathless reporting about ties to Russia, hookers and international espionage. He was up against the R establishment and the Bush dynasty, and when he dispatched them, he took on the hand-selected successor of a popular president and his anointed heir-apparent. He beat her and just about broke her emotionally in the process. If Howard Dean had 10% of the situational awareness, brand management and ‘F off, I’m pushing forward” skills of DJT, we might be having a different conversation today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Well, at the risk of derailing this topic even further, put your political animus on hold for 30 seconds. What Donald Trump accomplished was unprecedented in American politics. He was the butt of jokes and commentary throughout his campaign, and was subject to breathless reporting about ties to Russia, hookers and international espionage. He was up against the R establishment and the Bush dynasty, and when he dispatched them, he took on the hand-selected successor of a popular president and his anointed heir-apparent. He beat her and just about broke her emotionally in the process. If Howard Dean had 10% of the situational awareness, brand management and ‘F off, I’m pushing forward” skills of DJT, we might be having a different conversation today. I stopped reading at hookers...I've read that there's particularly virulent strain of gonorrhea circulating and we all know about the history of syphylis in world "leaders" and no, it's not communicable from cigars Edited January 22, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I stopped reading at hookers... Eeeeaaayah! 😂 No bigs, have a good night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Well, at the risk of derailing this topic even further, put your political animus on hold for 30 seconds. What Donald Trump accomplished was unprecedented in American politics. He was the butt of jokes and commentary throughout his campaign, and was subject to breathless reporting about ties to Russia, hookers and international espionage. He was up against the R establishment and the Bush dynasty, and when he dispatched them, he took on the hand-selected successor of a popular president and his anointed heir-apparent. He beat her and just about broke her emotionally in the process. If Howard Dean had 10% of the situational awareness, brand management and ‘F off, I’m pushing forward” skills of DJT, we might be having a different conversation today. What Donald Trump accomplished was destroying what little sanity remained in the GOP in self service to his ego. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Howard Dean got drummed out by the elites like they drummed out Bernie in 2016. They wanted one of the Johns. Kerry or Edwards. So they played it non stop on TV and told us he was nuts. who is going to argue CNN forever its marching orders from the DNC? He was excited. What's wrong with that? We would have been better of with him than a second disastrous Bush term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 🎯 Biden should just replay Trumps “tweets” and public comments regarding the docs. Makes sense, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 8 hours ago, redtail hawk said: sadly, I agree. In todays America there's no place for a man like him. Now trump... If we are talking about reviving careers of moderates, let's bring in my boy John Huntsman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Howard Dean got drummed out by the elites like they drummed out Bernie in 2016. They wanted one of the Johns. Kerry or Edwards. So they played it non stop on TV and told us he was nuts. who is going to argue CNN forever its marching orders from the DNC? He was excited. What's wrong with that? We would have been better of with him than a second disastrous Bush term. I had a Howard Dean bumper sticker on my pick up truck back then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Biden should just replay Trumps “tweets” and public comments regarding the docs. Makes sense, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I had a Howard Dean bumper sticker on my pick up truck back then I have a Howard Beal. 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Such a missed opportunity for Biden not to act like a complete fn lunatic like this POS: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 8 hours ago, ChiGoose said: What Donald Trump accomplished was destroying what little sanity remained in the GOP in self service to his ego. Red lamented the treatment Crazy Train Dean received from the media and whomever. The reality is he blew up his own campaign and lacked the intestinal fortitude/character to get back in the game. When comparing his tepid and impotent campaign and brand management to that of Donald Trump, one kicked establishment politics in the nuts and powered through media manipulation 1000x what Dean faced, the other moves to the scrap heap of history. These are facts, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Howard Dean got drummed out by the elites like they drummed out Bernie in 2016. They wanted one of the Johns. Kerry or Edwards. So they played it non stop on TV and told us he was nuts. who is going to argue CNN forever its marching orders from the DNC? He was excited. What's wrong with that? We would have been better of with him than a second disastrous Bush term. Fully agree. Now let's define elites. If you mean the corporate, big money behind who wins elections, I fully agree. If you mean something else, I likely don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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