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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Couldn't agree more. CMC is the ultimate game breaker. Can you imagine him in the Bills offense? I think he would virtually make the Bills offense u still able. It's kind of crazy people here a regular we didn't get him. What would you be saying if he got traded to the Bucs, KC, SD, Vegas, and other legit teams that can win a super bowl. I doubt you would be happy he went there. For me, it's not so much the injuries as it was the money. All I know is CMC in the Bills offense would have been awesome!

I agree but I think Cook might be an even better fit because he is gonna share time with Singletary and he is used to sharing the load, where as CMC would have to be our primary due to cost.

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17 hours ago, Dopey said:

Too bad my ex-wife didn't turn me down.

Repeat after me:

 

I couldn't take it any longer, Lord I was crazed
And when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave
Started swearing to my god and on my mother's grave
That I would love you to the end of time
I swore I would love you to the end of time!

So now I'm praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive
'Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you
I don't think that I can really survive
I'll never break my promise or forget my vow
But God only knows what I can do right now
I'm praying for the end of time
It's all that I can do
Praying for the end of time
So I can end my time with you!

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22 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

You’d think they’d have learned by now to stay away from the Carolina connection 😅

Yup, it's officially time to cut the cord on Carolina. He would've just immediately gotten injured like AD from the Lakers. Some athletes are just injury prone.  Cook will be just fine.

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Be careful with Adam Caplan reporting. The guy slings around a lot of half truths as matter of fact. 

 

He publicly claimed to often get 16 picks correct on his mock drafts back in the day, which for anybody thats a draft nerd knows that is a total lie. I also listen to a lot of his local coverage down here in the Philadelphia market, and I've noticed hes a little loose with his "inside info". Hes a wannabe Schefter.

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2 minutes ago, Estro said:

Be careful with Adam Caplan reporting. The guy slings around a lot of half truths as matter of fact. 

 

He publicly claimed to often get 16 picks correct on his mock drafts back in the day, which for anybody thats a draft nerd knows that is a total lie. I also listen to a lot of his local coverage down here in the Philadelphia market, and I've noticed hes a little loose with his "inside info". Hes a wannabe Schefter.

So:

Schefter Caplan Merrill Reese

? 🤔😁

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2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Bills didn't draft a RB last year. 

You are correct.  So skipped a year and still needed a RB.  Committed 2 3rd round picks and then used a second on a guy the GM came out and said isn’t a starter.  RB along with OG, LB and DL are not positions where this front office “gets the benefit of the doubt”.  They have not identified the great talent there, in multiple attempts.

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4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

You are correct.  So skipped a year and still needed a RB.  Committed 2 3rd round picks and then used a second on a guy the GM came out and said isn’t a starter.  RB along with OG, LB and DL are not positions where this front office “gets the benefit of the doubt”.  They have not identified the great talent there, in multiple attempts.

I wasn't commenting on that. Only pointing out your factual error. 

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13 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Wow, there is somebody with common sense out there.  A guy who didn’t start in college is suddenly better than an All-Pro, makes sense, right?   Well said.

 

You are SERIOUSLY over simplifying things in your mantra of Christian McCaffrey being an All-Pro and James Cook not being a Starter.

 

Christian McCaffrey was an All Pro... in 2019. Since that time he's played in a total of 10 games. And at least 3 of those 10 games involved him exiting the game early or attempting to come back from injury and getting injured again.

 

Dude's got a Medical History that lights up like a Christmas Tree. In large part due to having a total of 1,859 touches (not an exaggeration, an exact number) between rushing attempts and receptions between College and the Pros. And that doesn't take into account pass pro reps. That's a LOT of tread taken off the tires.

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/christian-mccaffrey-1.html

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCaCh01.htm

 

And if all that wasn't concerning enough, there's his contract. 9 million cap hit this season that goes up to 19.5 million in both 2023 and 2024 and will cost 18.35 in Dead Cap if we wanted to move on from him after this season. AND we'd have to give up Draft Compensation on top of it.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/

 

James Cook "wasn't a starter" but still managed to be the leader in all purpose yards on Offense for the National Championship team last season and was drafted 2 Rounds before "the starter".

 

He played in a split backfield in Georgia just like the offense McDermott likes to utilize here. He's a player that stays fresh and doesn't need to get a whole bunch of reps to get going. The best pass catching RB in the Draft, a position we were looking to fill. He has way less wear and tear and usage and costs close to nothing compared to what we'd have had to pay McCaffrey.

 

In that split backfield in Georgia where he "wasn't the starter" - last season, James Cook had 140 touches compared to Zamir White's 169. That's 83% of the touches "the starter" had. That's almost a complete split. So referring to Cook like he's a backup is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. 

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/zamir-white-1.html

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/james-cook-2.html

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10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You are SERIOUSLY over simplifying things in your mantra of Christian McCaffrey being an All-Pro and James Cook not being a Starter.

 

Christian McCaffrey was an All Pro... in 2019. Since that time he's played in a total of 10 games. And at least 3 of those 10 games involved him exiting the game early or attempting to come back from injury and getting injured again.

 

Dude's got a Medical History that lights up like a Christmas Tree. In large part due to having a total of 1,859 touches (not an exaggeration, an exact number) between rushing attempts and receptions between College and the Pros. And that doesn't take into account pass pro reps. That's a LOT of tread taken off the tires.

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/christian-mccaffrey-1.html

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCaCh01.htm

 

And if all that wasn't concerning enough, there's his contract. 9 million cap hit this season that goes up to 19.5 million in both 2023 and 2024 and will cost 18.35 in Dead Cap if we wanted to move on from him after this season. AND we'd have to give up Draft Compensation on top of it.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/

 

James Cook "wasn't a starter" but still managed to be the leader in all purpose yards on Offense for the National Championship team last season and was drafted 2 Rounds before "the starter".

 

He played in a split backfield in Georgia just like the offense McDermott likes to utilize here. He's a player that stays fresh and doesn't need to get a whole bunch of reps to get going. The best pass catching RB in the Draft, a position we were looking to fill. He has way less wear and tear and usage and costs close to nothing compared to what we'd have had to pay McCaffrey.

 

In that split backfield in Georgia where he "wasn't the starter" - last season, James Cook had 140 touches compared to Zamir White's 169. That's 83% of the touches "the starter" had. That's almost a complete split. So referring to Cook like he's a backup is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. 

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/zamir-white-1.html

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/james-cook-2.html

The GM that drafted him flat out said he’s not a #1 back.  He can’t run between the tackles, McCaffrey was the best back on the planet and you want to compare him to a guy who couldn’t start over a 4th round back, you REALLY want to proclaim yourself this intelligent? 

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11 hours ago, ddaryl said:

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Sa-da-tay!!

7 hours ago, DCofNC said:

You are correct.  So skipped a year and still needed a RB.  Committed 2 3rd round picks and then used a second on a guy the GM came out and said isn’t a starter.  RB along with OG, LB and DL are not positions where this front office “gets the benefit of the doubt”.  They have not identified the great talent there, in multiple attempts.

Yeah, Beane is failing us for sure

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