Freddie's Dead Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 17 hours ago, Chaos said: Here me out. Is it possible the Bills actually commit penalties at the worst possible time? You lost me at "Here". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 17 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: That much more than other teams? No. Did you even watch the Bucs game? The Bills DID commit bad penalties in the Buccs game. The issue was the Buccs committed one at the worst possible time and it was not called. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Bills worst in league, Colts best in league. What does this say about McDermott vs. Reich, if anything? That even with officiating against the Bills, McD could get his team to the playoffs? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: You lost me at "Here". I thought that was part of the joke. It was like a joke inside a joke. Firs tip off is "Hear me out" and then the 3rd grade spelling error.... Maybe he was being serious? 😬 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 16 hours ago, cDAVIS said: The Tre interception vs the Steelers that got called back ahd to have accounted for 35% for the Steelers and against the bills Bad example, that was a good call. Just now, Nextmanup said: I thought that was part of the joke. It was like a joke inside a joke. Firs tip off is "Hear me out" and then the 3rd grade spelling error.... Maybe he was being serious? 😬 That is some next-level ***** right there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I thought that was part of the joke. It was like a joke inside a joke. Firs tip off is "Hear me out" and then the 3rd grade spelling error.... Maybe he was being serious? 😬 See him out is more like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 How do they calculate "win probability"? WFT is a top 3 in this category, yet they won 7 games. Giants won 4. Of the top 5 teams "aided" by penalty calls, only one team won 10 games and a division. Whereas the 9 teams most adversely affected include 6 teams that won at least 10 games and 5 division winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 i like charts, any fan who watched every play of this Bills season knows that we've been job'd a ton by the refs this year. the inconsistency has been all time terrible, and thats my worst fear for the playoffs. if we lose fair and square i have zero issues. if we lose due to "human" ref error......imma be po'd. ive about had it with the inconsistency and game changing calls/non calls on a weekly basis from this league. Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 17 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: That much more than other teams? No. Did you even watch the Bucs game? This is a penalty for every team not named the Buffalo bills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Bills worst in league, Colts best in league. What does this say about McDermott vs. Reich, if anything? That the Colts quarterbacking situation was dreadful and they tried to hide him all year with a strong running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: This is a penalty for every team not named the Buffalo bills SMH. Practically ripping off Diggs’ jersey and the ref looking right at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: How do they calculate "win probability"? WFT is a top 3 in this category, yet they won 7 games. Giants won 4. Of the top 5 teams "aided" by penalty calls, only one team won 10 games and a division. Whereas the 9 teams most adversely affected include 6 teams that won at least 10 games and 5 division winners. Not sure...likely it involves yardage lost on plays that were called back, TD lost on plays that are called back, adverse plays on defense when you get a penalty that converts a 3rd down for the offense, etc. Here is an in depth explanation... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/win_prob.htm 1 minute ago, Doc said: SMH. Practically ripping off Diggs’ jersey and the ref looking right at it. That ref and the ref standing under the goalposts with the actual clear view of him getting his jersey pulled off...that was even worse...the one in the picture may have not been able to see it but the other one absolutely did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Did the Colts a lot of good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) My conspiratorial side says it would be interesting to look at the relationship between penalties in a game and the last minute bets on games. I recall this post in the last game between these two, and indeed it seemed the Bills did not get hosed on penalties. Edited January 15, 2022 by TPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Not sure...likely it involves yardage lost on plays that were called back, TD lost on plays that are called back, adverse plays on defense when you get a penalty that converts a 3rd down for the offense, etc. Here is an in depth explanation... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/win_prob.htm That ref and the ref standing under the goalposts with the actual clear view of him getting his jersey pulled off...that was even worse...the one in the picture may have not been able to see it but the other one absolutely did. The Bills won games by at least 10 points. The teams most “affected” by refs effect on win probability win the most games. Win probability changes throughout the game constantly. Then a team wins. How does a drop in win probability (due to ref calls or anything else) during a game matter to the ultimate winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The Bills won games by at least 10 points. The teams most “affected” by refs effect on win probability win the most games. Win probability changes throughout the game constantly. Then a team wins. How does a drop in win probability (due to ref calls or anything else) during a game matter to the ultimate winner? Read the formulas they use and it should explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Read the formulas they use and it should explain it. I did. It doesn’t answer my question re: ref calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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