Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Yeah only concussions. The next step after downgrading from TBI to concussions is just headaches as Trump said.  Being this is a football site I would have assumed you guys were familiar with what TBI can do.  I'd rather have an arm blown off than be Mike Webster or Jovan Belcher.  

How many concussions do nfl players suffer over their career? Hint more than ONE. GO SIT DOWN. You are definitely not winning this one.

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Go sit down, you're spinning in circles.

Concussions bro! Don't u think if our soldiers were seriously injured it would've been plastered all over every news station except maybe fox news in 2020. You're wrong, go sit down.

 

The left goes after every little thing he does.  It should tell you how much of a nothingburger this is if they're not going after him for it.

[daz28]

9 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Go sit down, you're spinning in circles.

Concussions bro! Don't u think if our soldiers were seriously injured it would've been plastered all over every news station except maybe fox news in 2020. You're wrong, go sit down.

Wasn't too hard to bait you into this.  Time to look foolish, but at least I warned you:   

 

The Defense Department says 45 more U.S. service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries after Iran's attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq last month — raising the total number of troops injured in the ballistic missile strike to 109.

Of those who were injured, 76 have returned to duty. A Pentagon statement about the injuries did not include details about the service members, such as their age, rank or military unit.

Monday's update is at least the fifth time the U.S. has revised the number of personnel injured during the Iranian attack.

President Trump initially reported no U.S. troops were injured. "No Americans were harmed in last night's attack by the Iranian regime," Trump said shortly after the strike. He added, "We suffered no casualties."  But the Pentagon later said that 11 people had suffered TBI. And on Jan. 24, the number jumped to 34. Nearly a week later, the Pentagon said 50 personnel were injured, only to revise the figure days later to 64.  

Discussing the increased injury toll given late last month, Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that TBI often "takes some time to manifest itself."

Milley has also said the military will take good care of the service members who suffered traumatic brain injuries in Iraq, saying they will be monitored for "the rest of their lives" and receive any treatment they need.

According to the Pentagon's breakdown of the 109 military personnel's status. (Some service members are listed in more than one category.)

75 returned to duty after being treated in Iraq

1 returned to duty in Iraq after being treated in Germany

27 were transported from Iraq to U.S. medical facilities in Germany

21 were transported from Germany to the U.S. for treatment

7 are currently en route from Iraq to Germany

5 are still being evaluated.

The Iranian attack targeted at least two Iraqi military bases housing U.S. personnel, including Ain al-Asad. Iran's action was in retaliation for the U.S. drone strike that killed one of its most prominent military commanders, Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani.  

Trump recently seemed to downplay the service members' condition, saying in late January, "I heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things, but I would say, and I can report, it is not very serious."

The president reiterated that stance in an interview with Fox Business on Monday night. And he described how he was initially impressed that no one was killed in the Iranian missile barrage.

"And then a couple of weeks later, I started hearing about people having to do with trauma — head trauma," Trump said. "And that exists, but it's, you know, I viewed it a little bit differently than most, and I won't be changing my mind on that."

An expert on combat-related brain injuries such as TBI, David Cifu of Virginia Commonwealth University, recently told NPR: "All concussions, all brain injuries are serious. So they're serious."

Cifu added, "The good news is that 95% to 98% of people with concussions who are diagnosed early on, who are managed in a comprehensive way, which the military knows how to do, are going to do well, are going to have wonderful short- and long-term outcomes."

But the doctor, who leads a national team researching brain injuries, said that if concussions, TBI and similar conditions aren't diagnosed and treated early, patients face a higher risk of additional problems or symptoms.

Cifu noted that among civilians, concussions aren't diagnosed 50% of the time and said that in regard to U.S. military personnel injured at Ain al-Asad, "the important thing is it's diagnosed now and they're acting on it."

The Defense Department is committed to providing "the best possible outcomes for our service members," Alyssa Farah, the Pentagon press secretary, said in the statement about the latest injury report.

"We are grateful to the efforts of our medical professionals who have worked diligently to ensure the appropriate level of care for our service members," Farah said, "which has enabled nearly 70 percent of those diagnosed to return to duty."

 

 

SIT DOWN!

 

[daz28]

7 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

How many concussions do nfl players suffer over their career? Hint more than ONE. GO SIT DOWN. You are definitely not winning this one.

You do know that when they compare football players to missiles that they're exaggerating, right?  Imagine a football play so violent that 100's of players instantly get TBI's.  Pretty sure comparing a football tackle to an incoming missile may be the biggest stretch ever on PPP.  Congrats.  

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

31 minutes ago, daz28 said:

You do know that when they compare football players to missiles that they're exaggerating, right?  Imagine a football play so violent that 100's of players instantly get TBI's.  Pretty sure comparing a football tackle to an incoming missile may be the biggest stretch ever on PPP.  Congrats.  

You brought up football clown

[L Ron Burgundy]

More infrastructure attacks in Russia.   Is it Ukraine or the crazy Russian separatists we heard about earlier in the war?  Almost no media coverage.   Very strange.....great strategy though.   Russia is trying their best to suppress the news but individuals are posting videos.  

[Coffeesforclosers]

5 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

More infrastructure attacks in Russia.   Is it Ukraine or the crazy Russian separatists we heard about earlier in the war?  Almost no media coverage.   Very strange.....great strategy though.   Russia is trying their best to suppress the news but individuals are posting videos.  

 

Could be long range drones, could be ATESH, could be Ukrainian intelligence.

 

My guess is drones and ATESH. Ukrainian Intelligence seems more into the assassinations. See for example, when Russian submarine captain Stanislav Rzhitsky posted his jogging route online. Then he was shot six times while jogging it. 

[B-Man]

On 1/31/2023 at 10:38 AM, aristocrat said:

 

what happened to all the putin is dying of cancer *****? was that made up? 

 

how about we negotiate peace and wait until he dies and then negotiate the return of territories? you believe there are two sides....russia and endless war. why not a third where we have the war end and just accept russia did what they did, give them a few territories and wait for him to die?

 

True.

 

 One thing is obvious from brief parts of the interview, the reports last year that Putin was seriously ill, or losing his grip, are plainly wrong.

 

Too bad.

 

But it was just another bit of propaganda from the Pro-War Left.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

[Tiberius]

 

[US Egg]

Another Joe helps Russia story swept under the rug by msm:

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Is this the same Boris Johnson that scuttled the peace deal Zelensky negotiated with the Russians?  The guys an flamingasshole.  

Edited February 11 by All_Pro_Bills

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Is this the same Boris Johnson that scuttled the peace deal Zelensky negotiated with the Russians?  The guys an flamingasshole.  

He stands with democracy. You stand with the evil dictators 

[All_Pro_Bills]

15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He stands with democracy. You stand with the evil dictators 

I stand with nobody, and this isn't about where I stand.  Because my ability to alter and influence the outcome of the conflict is zero.   What influences the outcome are players like Johnson who delivered a message to Zelensky that Washington and the western countries and NATO backing Ukraine find any peace deal with Russia to be an unacceptable conclusion to the conflict and that the war must continue.  How is killing a peace deal that resulted in the death of 100's of thousands of soldiers and civilians supporting anything other than carnage and death?  Maybe your definition of democracy is synonymous to endless war, death, and suffering but it's not mine.  You can fool yourself into believing devils in disguise like Johnson support democracy all you'd like but at the end of the day its one big illusion.  You support killers.  No different than the guys you say are evil.  Try objectivity.  You might find it enlightening.  

 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I stand with nobody, and this isn't about where I stand.  Because my ability to alter and influence the outcome of the conflict is zero.   What influences the outcome are players like Johnson who delivered a message to Zelensky that Washington and the western countries and NATO backing Ukraine find any peace deal with Russia to be an unacceptable conclusion to the conflict and that the war must continue.  How is killing a peace deal that resulted in the death of 100's of thousands of soldiers and civilians supporting anything other than carnage and death?  Maybe your definition of democracy is synonymous to endless war, death, and suffering but it's not mine.  You can fool yourself into believing devils in disguise like Johnson support democracy all you'd like but at the end of the day its one big illusion.  You support killers.  No different than the guys you say are evil.  Try objectivity.  You might find it enlightening.  

 

Russia's "peace deal" is slavery. 

 

You seem like a Russian troll farm worker 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Russia's "peace deal" is slavery. 

 

You seem like a Russian troll farm worker 

Yup.  Several Putin ball lickers on this board....amazing how they find invading sovereign countries, poisoning and imprisoning political enemies, censoring any and all opposition a good thing.  All the while, they claim to be anti war.  Russia has been in far more overt and covert wars in the last decade than The US ever has.  But somehow these trolls ignore that fact.

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Russia's "peace deal" is slavery. 

 

You seem like a Russian troll farm worker 

Amazing.  You have absolutely no rebuttal of my post so you resort to the usual dribble.  The deal was the deal Zelensky found acceptable to his country.  Your characterization of it is irrelevant.  The terms are none of your business, or mine, or our governments.  But not so fast.  I recall you saying sovereign countries can do what they want but apparently what they can't do based on Johnson's visit is negotiate a peace deal they find acceptable without the approval of Washington.  You idiots need to wake up.  

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Yup.  Several Putin ball lickers on this board....amazing how they find invading sovereign countries, poisoning and imprisoning political enemies, censoring any and all opposition a good thing.  All the while, they claim to be anti war.  Russia has been in far more overt and covert wars in the last decade than The US ever has.  But somehow these trolls ignore that fact.

America's suicide squad. They just hate our country 

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Amazing.  You have absolutely no rebuttal of my post so you resort to the usual dribble.  The deal was the deal Zelensky found acceptable to his country.  Your characterization of it is irrelevant.  The terms are none of your business, or mine, or our governments.  But not so fast.  I recall you saying sovereign countries can do what they want but apparently what they can't do based on Johnson's visit is negotiate a peace deal they find acceptable without the approval of Washington.  You idiots need to wake up.  

You are Pro-Putin, why would I take you seriously? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, Tiberius said:

America's suicide squad.

Not sure they are American.  The fools that can barely string a sentence are likely real MAGA morons.  The articulate ones maybe not so much....