daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, aristocrat said: you just said previously that we’re pumping money into our economy by arming Ukraine so it helps us but hurts them? Which way is it? No I said it's putting SOME of that money back into the economy, so the price tag is very deceiving. Massive difference. Russia's Centre for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-term Forecasting (CAMAC) attributes around 60-65% of increased industrial output in the last two years to the Ukraine conflict. All of that is industry that could have been committed to economic growth, but isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: That his weak ass let Iran hit us, and didn't retaliate, because they were supposed to miss. OK I'll play, didn't we kill soulmani first and what you're referring to was the retaliation? So we just keep the conflict going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: And this has what to do with putin? Seems like u have a axe to grind with Trump, looking for justification. I don't like him if that's what you mean, but I'm not slandering the guy. You're arguing in circles now. Maybe we just agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, daz28 said: I don't like him if that's what you mean, but I'm not slandering the guy. You're arguing in circles now. Maybe we just agree to disagree. You still have failed to provide any evidence on why putin didn't become an aggressor under the Trump administration. No even a good theory. Agree to disagree then, it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: OK I'll play, didn't we kill soulmani first and what you're referring to was the retaliation? So we just keep the conflict going? Yes, we hit Soleimani, and then they struck back causing 34 casualties, many of them are still suffering. He did not strike back. For all I know the guy made the whole Iran calling him thing up. He is a pathological liar who loves to talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: No I said it's putting SOME of that money back into the economy, so the price tag is very deceiving. Massive difference. Russia's Centre for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-term Forecasting (CAMAC) attributes around 60-65% of increased industrial output in the last two years to the Ukraine conflict. All of that is industry that could have been committed to economic growth, but isn't. Ergo Biden has Putin on the mat, right? 🤦♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Yes, we hit Soleimani, and then they struck back causing 34 casualties, many of them are still suffering. He did not strike back. For all I know the guy made the whole Iran calling him thing up. He is a pathological liar who loves to talk. If he did strike back, you could see how the conflict would never end right. I would consider the beef over. We strike, they retaliate end of conflict. Other than that are you suggesting war with iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Ergo Biden has Putin on the mat, right? 🤦♂️ How's that economy doing? How's that navy doing? How's the latest offensive doing, comrade? Tell Mike Johnson to stop sending alerts to his son about him logging into Hawt Hunter Biden Photos.com, and get busy arming Ukrainian troops, so we can WIN. Is war and lives the new depth of politics the GQP is wading into? Wouldn't surprise me, unless it's a fetus. 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You still have failed to provide any evidence on why putin didn't become an aggressor under the Trump administration. No even a good theory. Agree to disagree then, it's all good. What's your theory, because he's strong? Well, I gave you data to show that's not true. See how this is in a circle? 5 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: If he did strike back, you could see how the conflict would never end right. I would consider the beef over. We strike, they retaliate end of conflict. Other than that are you suggesting war with iran? Uh no. We kill a terrorist, you don't get to harm our troops. That's weak AF, and Iran is on the LIST. Shouldn't have missed your miss. Is that you Jimmy Carter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: How's that economy doing? How's that navy doing? How's the latest offensive doing, comrade? Tell Mike Johnson to stop sending alerts to his son about him logging into Hawt Hunter Biden Photos.com, and get busy arming Ukrainian troops, so we can WIN. Is war and lives the new depth of politics the GQP is wading into? Wouldn't surprise me, unless it's a fetus. What's your theory, because he's strong? Well, I gave you data to show that's not true. See how this is in a circle? Strong? No smart? Yes.........retaliation would mean war........doesn't seem like a great idea. And what data are u talking about? The point we didn't retaliate the retaliation? I think you should stop for tonight. 4 minutes ago, daz28 said: How's that economy doing? How's that navy doing? How's the latest offensive doing, comrade? Tell Mike Johnson to stop sending alerts to his son about him logging into Hawt Hunter Biden Photos.com, and get busy arming Ukrainian troops, so we can WIN. Is war and lives the new depth of politics the GQP is wading into? Wouldn't surprise me, unless it's a fetus. What's your theory, because he's strong? Well, I gave you data to show that's not true. See how this is in a circle? Uh no. We kill a terrorist, you don't get to harm our troops. That's weak AF, and Iran is on the LIST. Shouldn't have missed your miss. Is that you Jimmy Carter? So war with iran? Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: How's that economy doing? How's that navy doing? How's the latest offensive doing, comrade? Tell Mike Johnson to stop sending alerts to his son about him logging into Hawt Hunter Biden Photos.com, and get busy arming Ukrainian troops, so we can WIN. Is war and lives the new depth of politics the GQP is wading into? Wouldn't surprise me, unless it's a fetus. What's your theory, because he's strong? Well, I gave you data to show that's not true. See how this is in a circle? How long has Biden had Putin on the mat? How many have died while Biden has had Putin on the mat? How many will still die while Biden has Putin on the mat? They are all trick questions. Sadly, Putin is not on the mat no matter how much you would like to give Biden credit for having him there. There’s no end in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Strong? No smart? Yes.........retaliation would mean war........doesn't seem like a great idea. And what data are u talking about? The point we didn't retaliate the retaliation? I think you should stop for tonight. So we kill Bin Laden, and you're saying we're supposed turn our chin up, and let them have a free shot at our troops? I'm not the one who's over tired acting like Jimmy Carter here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, daz28 said: So we kill Bin Laden, and you're saying we're supposed turn our chin up, and let them have a free shot at our troops? I'm not the one who's over tired acting like Jimmy Carter here. Yeah the war on terror went great right? Once again, none of this has anything to do with putin and Trump. You keep coming back to this like it's some kind of proof that Trump is weak. Believe that if you want, I'm done with this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: There’s no end in sight. That literally means on the mat. If I meant we were winning big, I'd have said on the canvas. You know how we can win faster? Send them weapons like the ones your insisting we sent to Israel, who could without our support. We're just making the resolution faster, because of the optics there. Ukraine though, where we've already committed $100B, lets drag our feet, and let Russia regroup. MJ is an idiot playing political games over lives. 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Yeah the war on terror went great right? Once again, none of this has anything to do with putin and Trump. You keep coming back to this like it's some kind of proof that Trump is weak. Believe that if you want, I'm done with this conversation. Another rare case of Trump doing something right. Personally, I'm glad Isis is now weak AF now. Terorism can't stand, so as long as you don't ree-elect idiots like GW, everything will be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: That literally means on the mat. If I meant we were winning big, I'd have said on the canvas. You know how we can win faster? Send them weapons like the ones your insisting we sent to Israel, who could without our support. We're just making the resolution faster, because of the optics there. Ukraine though, where we've already committed $100B, lets drag our feet, and let Russia regroup. MJ is an idiot playing political games over lives. Another rare case of Trump doing something right. Personally, I'm glad Isis is now weak AF now. Terorism can't stand, so as long as you don't ree-elect idiots like GW, everything will be fine. Are you trying to jedi mind trick me? Or are u just drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, daz28 said: That literally means on the mat. If I meant we were winning big, I'd have said on the canvas. You know how we can win faster? Send them weapons like the ones your insisting we sent to Israel, who could without our support. We're just making the resolution faster, because of the optics there. Ukraine though, where we've already committed $100B, lets drag our feet, and let Russia regroup. MJ is an idiot playing political games over lives. They are done. Whether or not they win the war too, and make no mistake they are losing. Their demographics were bad before the war, they are atrocious now. History may very well show Russia was f'd when they couldn't take Kiev airport and Ukraine held out the first 6 months. Now they are brilliantly attacking Russias infrastructure/oil. What will Russia do with their prime age male workforce dead or maimed? They going to let in mass immigration? They are done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just for giggles, what would you guys have done if you were president, and Russia attacks Ukraine? There's pretty much only 2 options: 1) Beg Congress for money; 2) Go full Chamberlain, and say, "I'm sure he'll stop after Ukraine". I know what Trump's answer would be: "He said he'd stop after Ukraine, and I believed him. I could tell he was telling the truth. We get along". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: That literally means on the mat. Right. So by this “logic” could one say that Putin has Biden on the mat and be as equally correct as you believe yourself to be? You would be better off admitting “Biden has Putin on the mat” was, as is common to say these days, inartful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said: They are done. Whether or not they win the war too, and make no mistake they are losing. Their demographics were bad before the war, they are atrocious now. History may very well show Russia was f'd when they couldn't take Kiev airport and Ukraine held out the first 6 months. Now they are brilliantly attacking Russias infrastructure/oil. What will Russia do with their prime age male workforce dead or maimed? They going to let in mass immigration? They are done. The oil is the only thing keeping him in it. Send them more missiles ffs. My fav part of a bad situation is Putin is getting a face full of American power. He was crying about Patriots the other day. Be very scared, Vlad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Just for giggles, what would you guys have done if you were president, and Russia attacks Ukraine? There's pretty much only 2 options: 1) Beg Congress for money; 2) Go full Chamberlain, and say, "I'm sure he'll stop after Ukraine". I know what Trump's answer would be: "He said he'd stop after Ukraine, and I believed him. I could tell he was telling the truth. We get along". #2 for sure. Russia is close to being broke and their economy sucks. Even if they took Ukraine and wanted Poland, they most likely couldn't afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 34 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You still have failed to provide any evidence on why putin didn't become an aggressor under the Trump administration. No even a good theory. Agree to disagree then, it's all good. TRUMPY ‼️😂‼️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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