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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Right. So by this “logic” could one say that Putin has Biden on the mat and be as equally correct as you believe yourself to be? You would be better off admitting “Biden has Putin on the mat” was, as is common to say these days, inartful 

Yes.  They are on the mat may be the best way to phrase it.  The thing is Biden hasn't lost a single troop.  

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17 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Let me see now.

A coward.

A liar.

A person with no integrity.

An idiot.

A bullstuffer.

 

I've probably forgotten a few.

 

You post nonsense like this all day long, every day.

The claim that any US sitting president in  2017-2021 had anything to do with the negotiated 1997 UK/China Hong Kong thing is just today's idiocy.

 

You ever wonder why people here are laughing at you, everyday, all the time.

 

Do you ever wonder how much damage your horsestuff damages your obvious political effort?

 

You are a net negative, and not by a small margin, on whatever the hell you try to promote.

 

 

 

Calm down, I'm just pointing out you support isolationist. That's just the truth 

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11 hours ago, daz28 said:

Yes, they told him where, and told Trump not to move any troops to the area where they were going to "miss".  Again, I have no idea why it's not plastered everywhere, because it should be.  I just read an article the other day, and it did say 100 were actually affected, but I can't find it.  Many still are.  I mean maybe you should listen to the interview again.  

 

Sorry, I'll need to see proof of this.  Your memory has already proven to be suspect with the "100 dead, no wait, it was 34 with brain injuries."

 

10 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

They are done.  Whether or not they win the war too, and make no mistake they are losing.  Their demographics were bad before the war, they are atrocious now.  History may very well show Russia was f'd when they couldn't take Kiev airport and Ukraine held out the first 6 months.  Now they are brilliantly attacking Russias infrastructure/oil.

 

What will Russia do with their prime age male workforce dead or maimed?   They going to let in mass immigration?  They are done.

 

If you think Russia is done, what about Ukraine?  I think they're now conscripting old people and women.

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58 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Calm down, I'm just pointing out you support isolationist. That's just the truth 

 

I am always calm.

 

That nonsense aside, can you point to any post where I have supported "isolationist"?

I have posted on supporting Ukraine and Israel many, many times.

 

You have devolved from being a silly partisan, through idiotic accusations which you have refused to respond to challenges of, and now writing pure fiction.

 

Do you honestly fantasize that anyone cares what you post?

 

You are writing pure imagination.

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27 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I am always calm.

 

That nonsense aside, can you point to any post where I have supported "isolationist"?

I have posted on supporting Ukraine and Israel many, many times.

 

You have devolved from being a silly partisan, through idiotic accusations which you have refused to respond to challenges of, and now writing pure fiction.

 

Do you honestly fantasize that anyone cares what you post?

 

You are writing pure imagination.

 

As a matter of principle, I ignore anyone that posts in this forum more than say, 10 times in a day. 

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1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

I am always calm.

 

That nonsense aside, can you point to any post where I have supported "isolationist"?

I have posted on supporting Ukraine and Israel many, many times.

 

You have devolved from being a silly partisan, through idiotic accusations which you have refused to respond to challenges of, and now writing pure fiction.

 

Do you honestly fantasize that anyone cares what you post?

 

You are writing pure imagination.

Word games now, ok. 

 

Ya, you support the isolationism GOP in the House. Are you denying that now? 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

As a matter of principle, I ignore anyone that posts in this forum more than say, 10 times in a day. 

Huh? No, this is false and easily provable :doh:

 

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12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Word games now, ok. 

 

Ya, you support the isolationism GOP in the House. Are you denying that now? 

 

WTF are you getting "isolationism"?  Is that a new Dem talking point?

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Sorry, I'll need to see proof of this.  Your memory has already proven to be suspect with the "100 dead, no wait, it was 34 with brain injuries."

 

My memory is fine.  The updated number was actually 109.  Maybe it's YOUR job to verify YOUR denials of my claims:   

The Defense Department says 45 more U.S. service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries after Iran's attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq last month — raising the total number of troops injured in the ballistic missile strike to 109.

Of those who were injured, 76 have returned to duty. A Pentagon statement about the injuries did not include details about the service members, such as their age, rank or military unit.

Monday's update is at least the fifth time the U.S. has revised the number of personnel injured during the Iranian attack.

President Trump initially reported no U.S. troops were injured. "No Americans were harmed in last night's attack by the Iranian regime," Trump said shortly after the strike. He added, "We suffered no casualties."  -Lies to cover up his massive blunder, that SHOULD be all over the airwaves. 

 

As for your proof:  How could Iran tell Trump where not to move troops to if the intention was to miss them?  Are you even trying to use your brain???  

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12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Word games now, ok. 

 

Ya, you support the isolationism GOP in the House. Are you denying that now? 

 

 

Huh? No, this is false and easily provable :doh:

 

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I am not going to continue to respond to your fiction.

What I have said about 50 times, and even linked to an intelligent discussion on the subject, far more cogently made than anything you are capable of, is that I fully support Ukranian aid, and Israel aid.

 

Complex bills that include bundles of different provisions ie., Ukraine and Israel aid and border issues all tied together obfuscate the issues.

 

You suffer from the Biden syndrome, which is leading to extremely an obvious, continued cognitive decline at an accelerating rate, full of fantasies that anyone cares or is influenced.

Not fun to watch, and not interested in responding to your fiction.

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28 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's what your MAGA party is. 

 

Ah, so, from nowhere.  Got it.

 

27 minutes ago, daz28 said:

My memory is fine.  The updated number was actually 109.  Maybe it's YOUR job to verify YOUR denials of my claims:   

The Defense Department says 45 more U.S. service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries after Iran's attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq last month — raising the total number of troops injured in the ballistic missile strike to 109.

Of those who were injured, 76 have returned to duty. A Pentagon statement about the injuries did not include details about the service members, such as their age, rank or military unit.

Monday's update is at least the fifth time the U.S. has revised the number of personnel injured during the Iranian attack.

President Trump initially reported no U.S. troops were injured. "No Americans were harmed in last night's attack by the Iranian regime," Trump said shortly after the strike. He added, "We suffered no casualties."  -Lies to cover up his massive blunder, that SHOULD be all over the airwaves. 

 

As for your proof:  How could Iran tell Trump where not to move troops to if the intention was to miss them?  Are you even trying to use your brain???  

 

Yeah, no, your brain isn't fine.  Just a couple pages ago you said "100 American casualties."  Now you're saying there wasn't even 1 casualty, they were brain injuries and 70% have returned to work?  

 

Again, if there was any proof that Trump knew where they were going to attack and allowed it, he would have been strung-up by now.  You know it, I know it and everyone knows it.  They're not "waiting" for some magical moment to whip it out.

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30 minutes ago, sherpa said:

Complex bills that include bundles of different provisions ie., Ukraine and Israel aid and border issues all tied together obfuscate the issues.

While this is true, it's extremely common for it to happen in Congress, because that's how you get compromise.  If a rep is completely against aid to Ukraine, but for aid for Israel, the compromise is what keeps both sides from just negating each others bills every single time.   That's how politics works.  

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18 minutes ago, daz28 said:

While this is true, it's extremely common for it to happen in Congress, because that's how you get compromise.  If a rep is completely against aid to Ukraine, but for aid for Israel, the compromise is what keeps both sides from just negating each others bills every single time.   That's how politics works.  

 

I, as well as everyone here, am well aware of how this works.

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40 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Ah, so, from nowhere.  Got it.

 

 

Yeah, no, your brain isn't fine.  Just a couple pages ago you said "100 American casualties."  Now you're saying there wasn't even 1 casualty, they were brain injuries and 70% have returned to work?  

 

Again, if there was any proof that Trump knew where they were going to attack and allowed it, he would have been strung-up by now.  You know it, I know it and everyone knows it.  They're not "waiting" for some magical moment to whip it out.

It was 109, and the number has been revised many times.  Trump literally said in his interview, that Iran called him, and said they were going to hit back, and that they told him where they were going to do it, so there would be no casualties.  You're willfully ignoring the facts.  Where did I say there were zero casualties, there were 109 OFFICIAL casualties, and ZERO American response after them.  You're going from willful ignorance, to simple ignoring facts.  

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