Doc Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, JDHillFan said: Wishful thinking. Trump flat out broke people. They will be “but Trump”ing for decades. It's what they've been told to think. I've been group-texting with my colleague (Dem who claims he's now Independent) and he even said that Trump doesn't want a solution. I asked him how many illegals came into America over his 4 years, compared to now? No answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, JDHillFan said: Wishful thinking. Trump flat out broke people. They will be “but Trump”ing for decades. I really don't understand. Trumps the devil, but they vote for a a turnip whose been in politics for 40 plus years and hasn't accomplished anything, plus there are multiple quotes of him saying racist stuff for a while now. But trumps the racist? If you don't vote for me, u ain't black! Trump(probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, Doc said: What are you talking about? And Putin didn't invade Ukraine under Trump, but did under Barry and Joke. You think that's a coincidence? When a "Putin puppet" would have given Ukraine up without a fight? He spilled the beans in the Bartiromo interview. She's a staunch GQP shill, and she almost fell out of her chair in disbelief, that he was admitting it. Answer this, do you think Putin packs his bags and goes home day 1 if Trump is elected??? Well, do you????? LOL. That clown has you cultists believing he has some magic wand. His only options will be the same as Bidens. Beg Congress for money, or watch Ukraine lose. 12 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Damn, I thought we were on to some genuine dialog. Then you veered left down the Trump rabbit hole. Maybe next time. It's ok to agree on some things, and disagree on others. It at least shows that a person isn't a trained monkey/cultist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: He spilled the beans in the Bartiromo interview. She's a staunch GQP shill, and she almost fell out of her chair in disbelief, that he was admitting it. Answer this, do you think Putin packs his bags and goes home day 1 if Trump is elected??? Well, do you????? LOL. That clown has you cultists believing he has some magic wand. His only options will be the same as Bidens. Beg Congress for money, or watch Ukraine lose. It's ok to agree on some things, and disagree on others. It at least shows that a person isn't a trained monkey/cultist. But you are showing yourself to be one with your crazy Trump posts. It's hard to have an honest conversation with people like that, no offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: But you are showing yourself to be one with your crazy Trump posts. It's hard to have an honest conversation with people like that, no offense. Everything I said is true and relevant, because he claims to be the one who'd put Putin down, when he can't even scare Iran. I'm not the crazy one, he is, and he's made one American discussing politics with another American exceedingly difficult. I'm all about united we stand, and I don't look at the American's i disagree with as unAmerican or the enemy. I dislike their politics, but understand most of them are darn good people. MAGA doesn't think like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, daz28 said: Everything I said is true and relevant, because he claims to be the one who'd put Putin down, when he can't even scare Iran. I'm not the crazy one, he is, and he's made one American discussing politics with another American exceedingly difficult. I'm all about united we stand, and I don't look at the American's i disagree with as unAmerican or the enemy. I dislike their politics, but understand most of them are darn good people. MAGA doesn't think like that Ehh I don't know you personally, but you seem kind of unhinged when it comes to Trump. You went on a tirade for no apparent reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 9 minutes ago, daz28 said: He spilled the beans in the Bartiromo interview. She's a staunch GQP shill, and she almost fell out of her chair in disbelief, that he was admitting it. Answer this, do you think Putin packs his bags and goes home day 1 if Trump is elected??? Well, do you????? LOL. That clown has you cultists believing he has some magic wand. His only options will be the same as Bidens. Beg Congress for money, or watch Ukraine lose. Show me this "admission." As for Putin packing his bags if Trumps wins the election, LOL! No one ever said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Ehh I don't know you personally, but you seem kind of unhinged when it comes to Trump. You went on a tirade for no apparent reason. I explained the reason. He's lying about being able to end the war. 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Show me this "admission." As for Putin packing his bags if Trumps wins the election, LOL! No one ever said that. It was in the last interview she did with him. It was jaw dropping to me that he brought that out in the open. I can't find it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: I explained the reason. He's lying about being able to end the war. Claim to believe what you will but the fact of the matter is putin didn't do ***** when Trump was president. He did take Crimea under Obama, and started a war with Ukraine under Biden, those are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Claim to believe what you will but the fact of the matter is putin didn't do ***** when Trump was president. He did take Crimea under Obama, and started a war with Ukraine under Biden, those are facts. Correlation. The guy admitted that he had to take a strike from Iran, because he made them look bad with his strike. Sorry, but that's as weak as weak could ever be. Obama was pretty weak, too. Out of Obam, Biden, and Trump, Biden is actually the strongest. As sad as that is. I'm prob just a step below McCain and Lindsay when it comes to deterrent strength, but at least I wasn't dumb enough to believe GW. Edited February 8 by daz28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, daz28 said: Correlation. The guy admitted that he had to take a strike from Iran, because he made them look bad with his strike. Sorry, but that's as weak as weak could ever be. I have no idea what you're talking about. What I stated are facts, coincidence or not. Have a good night, I'm clearly not going to change your mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Claim to believe what you will but the fact of the matter is putin didn't do ***** when Trump was president. He did take Crimea under Obama, and started a war with Ukraine under Biden, those are facts. Again you'd think the time for Putin to invade Ukraine would be when he has his "puppet" in Office who is "trying to destroy NATO." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, Doc said: Again you'd think the time for Putin to invade Ukraine would be when he has his "puppet" in Office who is "trying to destroy NATO." Trump is unpredictable. That doesn't equate to strong, but it may make people hesitate. It's not even debatable that he slobbers all over Putin. Imagine Putin not attacking, because trump and him are buddies. LOL I mean aren't they still buddies? Will he give it back when Trump's re-elected??? LOL Russia is our enemy, and that's clear. 5 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: I have no idea what you're talking about. What I stated are facts, coincidence or not. Have a good night, I'm clearly not going to change your mind. Sorry, but I can't find the interview. I was sober, so I know I didn't imagine it. It was so shocking, that I almost feel like it was a dream, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) Found it, but don't know how to embed it: Google: Trump revelations from Bartiromo sit-down (wnd.com) It's right near the beginning of the video. Oh yeah, he throws Israel under the bus right after he admits he let them strike us, with no retaliation for it. I think Ronny Jackson gave him too much Pervitin before the interview, or else his Covid treatment drugs kicked in. Edited February 8 by daz28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 26 minutes ago, Doc said: Again you'd think the time for Putin to invade Ukraine would be when he has his "puppet" in Office who is "trying to destroy NATO." Logic would seem to tell you that. If Trump was putins friend, as alleged, wouldn't he have given him what he wanted with little resistance. This is the flaw in their argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 28 minutes ago, daz28 said: Trump is unpredictable. That doesn't equate to strong, but it may make people hesitate. It's not even debatable that he slobbers all over Putin. Imagine Putin not attacking, because trump and him are buddies. LOL I mean aren't they still buddies? Will he give it back when Trump's re-elected??? LOL Russia is our enemy, and that's clear. No, we're saying that if they were "buddies," Putin would have definitely invaded Ukraine because Trump wouldn't have stopped it. 22 minutes ago, daz28 said: Found it, but don't know how to embed it: Google: Trump revelations from Bartiromo sit-down (wnd.com) It's right near the beginning of the video. Oh yeah, he throws Israel under the bus right after he admits he let them strike us, with no retaliation for it. I think Ronny Jackson gave him too much Pervitin before the interview, or else his Covid treatment drugs kicked in. Yeah that interview doesn't say anything remotely close to what you are claiming. Because if it did...it was be all over the news. And actually instead of throwing Israel under the bus, he took total responsibility for killing Soleimani. Everyone (including Iran and they were pissed) thought Israel was also in on it. Edited February 8 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 18 minutes ago, daz28 said: Found it, but don't know how to embed it: Google: Trump revelations from Bartiromo sit-down (wnd.com) It's right near the beginning of the video. Oh yeah, he throws Israel under the bus right after he admits he let them strike us, with no retaliation for it. I think Ronny Jackson gave him too much Pervitin before the interview, or else his Covid treatment drugs kicked in. To be fair, i still have no idea what you're trying to get at?What does this have to do with the fact that putin chose military aggression when Obama and Biden were in office, but not Trump? Make it make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Logic would seem to tell you that. If Trump was putins friend, as alleged, wouldn't he have given him what he wanted with little resistance. This is the flaw in their argument. I know. Which is why it then inevitably changes to "well he didn't need to invade because he was doing Putin' bidding by trying to destroy NATO." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Doc said: I know. Which is why it then inevitably changes to "well he didn't need to invade because he was doing Putin' bidding by trying to destroy NATO." This may seem crude, but why should Americans give a flying ***** about nato? Would these countries pour in billions to us if we needed it? Russia would only be a problem if they tried to invade the us, aaannd good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Logic would seem to tell you that. If Trump was putins friend, as alleged, wouldn't he have given him what he wanted with little resistance. This is the flaw in their argument. I'm not the one claiming to know why Putin waited for Biden, you did. There could be a lot of reasons. My claim is Trump is weak, and maybe you could explain to me why Putin didn't invade then. My point was it's a lie to think Putin feared Trump, and you're assuming that a correlation is the causation. I mean I'm fine with your opinion, but it's certainly no fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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