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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What makes you think there wouldn't have been a war? 

 

Joey has helped destroy large parts of the cream of Putin's army. Nice. Trump called the invasion "genius." Biden has done a good job so far. 

Right wing radio think 

Tibs….keep your sense of humor. Breathe. 

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24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What makes you think there wouldn't have been a war? 

 

Joey has helped destroy large parts of the cream of Putin's army. Nice. Trump called the invasion "genius." Biden has done a good job so far. 

 

Because he would have done it under Trump.  Why not invade Ukraine when "his boy" was in Office?  Makes no sense to wait until someone else is in office.

 

And yes, Putin has gotten his come-uppance thanks to the resolve of the rest of the world.  It have been better not to have a war at all.

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Just now, Doc said:

 

Because he would have done it under Trump.  

 

And yes, Putin has gotten his come-uppance thanks to the resolve of the rest of the world.  It have been better not to have a war at all.

I know he would have. He doesn't consider Ukraine a country. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Report: Ukrainian troops retreat from Sievierodonetsk

 

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/06/01/report-ukrainian-troops-retreat-from-sievierodonetsk-n473375

 

 

 

Makes sense, they were down to one bridge out of the city. 

 

As for the rest of the article, its generally a bad idea to let the dictator win.  Especially when he has delusions of Empire. No matter how expedient it may be in the short term. 

 

Russian state media are talking about how when they conquer Ukraine, they'll have to kill about 2 million people. Just to ensure proper Russification, of course.  This is not the language of a side seeking peace.  It is rhetoric designed to convince the world that Russia is cruel and relentless and ultimately unstoppable.  None of that is true, but people believe lots of things that arent true if they think emotionally. And of course, we should all be petrified of how cruel, relentless and unstoppable Russia is.  That was sarcasm.  

 

This is how the bad guys use terror when, like Russia, they have decades of practice.  Its a polished act. And all these dudes seem to forget that Russia told us their plan, super villain style, when this all started.  Helping it along, even from noble intentions and honest motives, seems really, really dumb.

 

Also support for Ukraine is one of the last truly bipartisan issues left in Washington. I think its a good cause too, and there's so little unity left in this country.  Oh and if the author thinks that a future GOP leader is just going to tell Mitch McConnell what to do, I want a toke of what he's smoking.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Report: Ukrainian troops retreat from Sievierodonetsk

 

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/06/01/report-ukrainian-troops-retreat-from-sievierodonetsk-n473375

 

 

Saw a piece in WSJ, won’t link b/c paywall.

 

Summary was due to things like this NATO is starting to fracture. Some member states more reliant on Russian energy are beginning to doubt Ukraine can end this. 

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10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Saw a piece in WSJ, won’t link b/c paywall.

 

Summary was due to things like this NATO is starting to fracture. Some member states more reliant on Russian energy are beginning to doubt Ukraine can end this. 

 

Its at times like this I wish we had a national energy trust, like Alaska or Norway.  With the fracking revolution we'd be our own OPEC and if Russia tried to manipulate the Petro markets, we could just open the taps and laugh.

 

Instead, we argue about drilling leases and land rights, until some company 's lobbyists win.  And the company gets the drilling leases and land rights, but doesnt bring any more supply to the marketplace because why bother driving prices down. 

 

 

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