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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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If we have this many countries seeking asylum just since Biden took office shouldn’t somebody be asking what our Secretary of State does all day? How did all of these countries suddenly fall apart? Did I miss a bunch of wars? Is religious persecution on the rampage? 

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Just now, SoCal Deek said:

If we have this many countries seeking asylum just since Biden took office shouldn’t somebody be asking what our Secretary of State does all day? How did all of these countries suddenly fall apart? Did I miss a bunch of wars? Is religious persecution on the rampage? 

In fairness, a portion are coming from Venezuela. and that place is a ***** hole since the Marxist took over.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

If "someone" assassinated Putin today. what do you believe the outcome for the people of Ukraine would be?

 

Would that drive Russia to seek peace?

 

 

 

I have no idea, and neither does anyone else on this site.

The fact is that the man is an out of control maniac who seems to have no concern for civilian death as he attempts to create an impossible legacy.

Those people are better off gone.

Please don't extend this view to a conclusion that the US should do it.

That point has not been made.

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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

In fairness, a portion are coming from Venezuela. and that place is a ***** hole since the Marxist took over.

 

 

With all due respect….Venezuelas mess did not start on January 7th 2021. And what about the other 100 or so countries? 

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Just now, sherpa said:

 

I have no idea, and neither does anyone else on this site.

The fact is that the man is an out of control maniac who seems to have no concern for civilian death as he attempts to create an impossible legacy.

Those people are better off gone.

Please don't extend this view to a conclusion that the US should do it.

That point has not been made.

Who did Norde stream?  even if we didn't, the narrative is we had a part of it, at the least.

 

same narrative if Putin was taken out. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/un-warns-ukraine-over-attacks-on-russian-civilian-targets/ar-AA1fMJ8Y

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/

 

they need to get to the negotiating table vs constant escalation as we have been seeing.

 

for the sake of the people

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

With all due respect….Venezuelas mess did not start on January 7th 2021. And what about the other 100 or so countries? 

Not to speak for him, but I suggest that what he might have meant by the "Marxist " taking over occurred in 1998.

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8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

With all due respect….Venezuelas mess did not start on January 7th 2021. And what about the other 100 or so countries? 

I was being snarky. at the end of this, 95% of them will benefit from the asylum packages, but be denied long term asylum or citizenship for the reasons you stated.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

I was being snarky. at the end of this, 95% of them will benefit from the asylum packages, but be denied long term asylum or citizenship for the reasons you stated.

 

 

You’re supposed to seek asylum in the country directly bordering on your own. It’s not supposed to be ‘country shopping’. 

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36 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’re supposed to seek asylum in the country directly bordering on your own. It’s not supposed to be ‘country shopping’. 

 

Yup.  And you should remain in Mexico until your asylum comes through.

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20 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yup.  And you should remain in Mexico until your asylum comes through.

Yep and for those who don’t own a globe, Venezuela is nowhere near Mexico. You’d have to have crossed through about eight countries before you’d get to our southern border. 

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17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yep and for those who don’t own a globe, Venezuela is nowhere near Mexico. You’d have to have crossed through about eight countries before you’d get to our southern border. 

I hear Lichtenstein is a nice place.  Why don't these 5 million+ people apply for asylum there?

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Ah. Remember the early days of this war of choice where if you pointed out the obvious money laundering and corruption potential inherent in giving the most corrupt, cesspool of a nation unlimited blank checks was deemed…. “Supporting Putin”. 

 

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Ah. Remember the early days of this war of choice where if you pointed out the obvious money laundering and corruption potential inherent in giving the most corrupt, cesspool of a nation unlimited blank checks was deemed…. “Supporting Putin”. 

 

 

 

 

Now, Ukraine is cesspool? See, this is why your calling for talks falls so flat. You guys just want to give Putin a win 

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Cuba uncovers human trafficking of Cubans to fight for Russia in Ukraine

Reuters, by Dave Sherwood & Marc Frank

 

HAVANA - Cuba has uncovered a human trafficking ring that has coerced its citizens to fight for Russia in the war in Ukraine, its foreign ministry said on Monday, adding that Cuban authorities were working to "neutralize and dismantle" the network. The statement from Cuba's foreign ministry gave few details, but noted the trafficking ring was operating both within the Caribbean island nation, thousands of miles from Moscow, and in Russia. "The Ministry of the Interior...is working on the neutralization and dismantling of a human trafficking network that operates from Russia

 

https://news.yahoo.com/cuba-uncovers-human-trafficking-cubans-024048652.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

 

 

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4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Cuba uncovers human trafficking of Cubans to fight for Russia in Ukraine

Reuters, by Dave Sherwood & Marc Frank

 

HAVANA - Cuba has uncovered a human trafficking ring that has coerced its citizens to fight for Russia in the war in Ukraine, its foreign ministry said on Monday, adding that Cuban authorities were working to "neutralize and dismantle" the network. The statement from Cuba's foreign ministry gave few details, but noted the trafficking ring was operating both within the Caribbean island nation, thousands of miles from Moscow, and in Russia. "The Ministry of the Interior...is working on the neutralization and dismantling of a human trafficking network that operates from Russia

 

https://news.yahoo.com/cuba-uncovers-human-trafficking-cubans-024048652.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

 

 

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Sounds like a country we can negotiate with honorably....:doh:

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7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Cuba uncovers human trafficking of Cubans to fight for Russia in Ukraine

Reuters, by Dave Sherwood & Marc Frank

 

HAVANA - Cuba has uncovered a human trafficking ring that has coerced its citizens to fight for Russia in the war in Ukraine, its foreign ministry said on Monday, adding that Cuban authorities were working to "neutralize and dismantle" the network. The statement from Cuba's foreign ministry gave few details, but noted the trafficking ring was operating both within the Caribbean island nation, thousands of miles from Moscow, and in Russia. "The Ministry of the Interior...is working on the neutralization and dismantling of a human trafficking network that operates from Russia

 

https://news.yahoo.com/cuba-uncovers-human-trafficking-cubans-024048652.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

 

 

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Maybe the US government can get some pointers from Cuba on how to uncover human trafficking networks operating along the US/Mexico border?

 

    

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4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Now, Ukraine is cesspool? See, this is why your calling for talks falls so flat. You guys just want to give Putin a win 

 

True.  All their corruption ended when they prosecuted Shokin for corruption and all the people he was protecting.  Oh, wait a minute...

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Ah. Remember the early days of this war of choice where if you pointed out the obvious money laundering and corruption potential inherent in giving the most corrupt, cesspool of a nation unlimited blank checks was deemed…. “Supporting Putin”. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Cuba uncovers human trafficking of Cubans to fight for Russia in Ukraine

Reuters, by Dave Sherwood & Marc Frank

 

HAVANA - Cuba has uncovered a human trafficking ring that has coerced its citizens to fight for Russia in the war in Ukraine, its foreign ministry said on Monday, adding that Cuban authorities were working to "neutralize and dismantle" the network. The statement from Cuba's foreign ministry gave few details, but noted the trafficking ring was operating both within the Caribbean island nation, thousands of miles from Moscow, and in Russia. "The Ministry of the Interior...is working on the neutralization and dismantling of a human trafficking network that operates from Russia

 

https://news.yahoo.com/cuba-uncovers-human-trafficking-cubans-024048652.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

 

 

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Not really a surprise.

 

A socialist government lying.

 

 

A Miami state representative and leader in the Cuban American community told RedState the Cuban foreign ministry’s claim that a Russian human trafficking ring was responsible for recruiting Cubans to fight with the Russians in Ukraine is a bogus cover story.

 

“The Cuban Regiment is lying,” said state Rep. Alina Garcia (R.-115th), who used the term for the Cuban regime that does not acknowledge its legitimacy. “The Cuban regiment is the one that's sending the kids there, and the moms are up in arms. The Cuban mothers are up in arms. That's what's happening.”

 

Garcia said the regime is reacting to the uproar from Cuban mothers whose sons are sent to fight and die in Ukraine.

 

“They are--they've always been--Russian partners with the regiment,” she said. 

 

The state representative said Cubans in Miami are aware of the situation as word filters out of their homeland.

 

“Everything I know is hearsay, and what they're saying is that they're sending them and that the mothers in Cuba are up in arms, and that's why they put out fake stories to keep lying,” she said. 

 

“That's why it's out because the moms and the grandmas are screaming--that's why it's out,” she said.

 

Florida Republican Rep. Carlos A. Gimenez told CNN that he was also skeptical about a trafficking ring responsible for Cubans fighting in Ukraine.

 

https://redstate.com/mccabe/2023/09/05/cuba-and-ukraine-n2163428

 

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59 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You think supporting this senseless war that's resulted in the deaths of 100's of thousands of Ukrainians makes you a hero?  

Ya, it's the peope that support Ukraine that killed everyone. Did you graduate from high school? 

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11 hours ago, Doc said:

When Trump lost, Joke had that disastrous pullout from Afghanistan and said he'd tolerate a "minor incursion" by Russia, it was over for Ukraine.

Trump lost? 

 

Doc, so proud of you! 

42 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Do you profit from death?

So in your view letting Putin conquor Ukraine will lead to more life? 

 

So no high school diploma? 

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