sherpa Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Took a little longer than expected. Creative though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 8 billion people saw that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) at this point this is all based on reporting by Russia’s state news agency TASS. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ten-killed-private-jet-crash-north-moscow-tass-2023-08-23/ Edited August 23, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 So is there a "compare and contrast" documentary coming out comparing the Russian moon crash with this? Good couple days for gravity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Now being reported Russian air defenses shot it down. Wagner Chief Prigozhin Reported Dead After Russian Forces Shoot Down Plane (newsweek.com) 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: except the pilots and staff that were collateral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Chris farley said: Now being reported Russian air defenses shot it down. Wagner Chief Prigozhin Reported Dead After Russian Forces Shoot Down Plane (newsweek.com) except the pilots and staff that were collateral Well that's refreshingly honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Ralph Waldo Emerson — 'When you strike at a king, you must kill him.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Ukraine running out of 30 year old US cluster bombs? Russians heading to “Kyiv” soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Who gets more aid? Ukraine or Hawaii? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Who gets more aid? Ukraine or Hawaii? If Biden gets his way, Ukraine gets more than double. Sad but true Ukraine went from a corrupt democracy that wasn't allowed to join NATO to the beacon of democracy overnight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 9 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: If Biden gets his way, Ukraine gets more than double. Sad but true Ukraine went from a corrupt democracy that wasn't allowed to join NATO to the beacon of democracy overnight. We should be spending that money to preserve democracy at home. Seven million illegals since Joke took over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: We should be spending that money to preserve democracy at home. Seven million illegals since Joke took over. Immigrants, like yours and mine ancestors, have been flocking to our shores since before the Revolution. Same as it ever was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Immigrants, like yours and mine ancestors, have been flocking to our shores since before the Revolution. Same as it ever was My grandfather's had to fight in a war to become citizens Maybe some of them could do a tour in Ukraine first? Edited August 24, 2023 by TSOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: Immigrants, like yours and mine ancestors, have been flocking to our shores since before the Revolution. Same as it ever was though port of calls, and with many turned away as well. you Canadians have very strong immigration laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, TSOL said: My grandfather's had to fight in a war to become citizens Maybe some of them could do a your in Ukraine first? Most did not, they just came here, period 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Most did not, they just came here, period https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/goldman-immigration-and-deportation-ellis-island/ "The New World's 'Golden Door' was, for some, a place of protracted anguish. While the immigration service efficiently channeled millions through Ellis Island's Main Building, countless others awaited their fates in the hospital and infectious disease wards on the south side of the island. Some recuperated sufficiently to enter America, but others were returned to their homelands." "Once registered, immigrants were free to enter the New World and start their new lives. But if they were sick, they spent days, weeks, months even, in a warren of rooms. Some, like the tuberculosis ward, were open to the sea, where a gentle New York harbor breeze cleansed their lungs, improving their chances. Other rooms were solitary, forlorn places where the illness itself decided when to leave or stay. Most patients in the hospital or Contagious Disease Ward recovered, but some were not so lucky. More than 120,000 immigrants were sent back to their countries of origin, and during the island's half-century of operation more than 3,500 immigrants died there." Ellis Island waylaid certain arrivals, including those likely to become public charges, such as unescorted women and children. Women could not leave Ellis Island with a man not related to them. Other detainees included stowaways, alien seamen, anarchists, Bolsheviks, criminals and those judged to be "immoral." Approximately 20 percent of immigrants inspected at Ellis Island were temporarily detained, half for health reasons and half for legal reasons They screened them, turned away the bad. put the sick on boats in the harbor. And There was not a monetary factor like our asylum package is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Immigrants, like yours and mine ancestors, have been flocking to our shores since before the Revolution. Same as it ever was Yup. And they did it legally. My mom was a legal immigrant and is a Dem, and is pissed about all the illegals streaming across the border. Edited August 24, 2023 by Doc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. And they did it legally. My mom was a legal immigrant and is a Dem, and is pissed about all the illegals streaming across the border. Why she pissed? They will turn into great Americans just like the hated Irish, German and Polish immigrants did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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