New John Mayer album “Sob Rock” is fantastic!

[JaCrispy]

 

A “throwback” album that samples many 80s sounds...songs are very catchy, with excellent guitar, and lyrics...very enjoyable if you’re just relaxing or driving around with the windows down...👍

[The Poojer]

No arguments here.  looking forward to seeing him(& Company) in Hershey in just over a month

[Simon]

That was so horrifically bad I can't tell if you're trolling. 

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

That was so horrifically bad I can't tell if you're trolling. 

Lol...No way, man...I grew up in the 80s, so I really enjoyed it...thought he reinvented himself again....I also appreciated the quirky irony of the album...just seemed like he had fun making this record- and not taking himself too seriously...👍

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

That was so horrifically bad I can't tell if you're trolling. 

 

He is such a talented blues guitar player.  I totally get that he would make a lot less money making a blues album, but it frustrates me that he keeps pumping out bubblegum little girl pop crap.  Again ... I understand that he's gotta pay the beels.  But I wish he'd just make one great bluesy album.

 

I'd love to see him live to see him rip some blues, but there's no way I'd pay to see him and have to endure all of the other crap.

 

If you like the blues, check out some of Mayer's performances at some of Clapton's Crossroads shows from years past.  The dude smokes.

[JaCrispy]

14 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He is such a talented blues guitar player.  I totally get that he would make a lot less money making a blues album, but it frustrates me that he keeps pumping out bubblegum little girl pop crap.  Again ... I understand that he's gotta pay the beels.  But I wish he'd just make one great bluesy album.

 

I'd love to see him live to see him rip some blues, but there's no way I'd pay to see him and have to endure all of the other crap.

 

If you like the blues, check out some of Mayer's performances at some of Clapton's Crossroads shows from years past.  The dude smokes.

Ya know, I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes a blues album...he’s dabbled in just about every other genre, so I could see him doing something like that next...👍

[RaoulDuke79]

Dude can make the strings talk. Great musician.

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Ya know, I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes a blues album...he’s dabbled in just about every other genre, so I could see him doing something like that next...👍

 

I think you might appreciate this one ... for years, I've always loved the idea of John Mayer and Norah Jones collaborating on an album.  It's just my idea, so it will likely never happen.  I just think they would sound amazing together.

[ExiledInIllinois]

29 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He is such a talented blues guitar player.  I totally get that he would make a lot less money making a blues album, but it frustrates me that he keeps pumping out bubblegum little girl pop crap.  Again ... I understand that he's gotta pay the beels.  But I wish he'd just make one great bluesy album.

 

I'd love to see him live to see him rip some blues, but there's no way I'd pay to see him and have to endure all of the other crap.

 

If you like the blues, check out some of Mayer's performances at some of Clapton's Crossroads shows from years past.  The dude smokes.

Everyone eventually sells out... 😏

[Buftex]

Can't get past the fact that he is a complete #######. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

48 minutes ago, Buftex said:

Can't get past the fact that he is a complete #######. 

He is from New England went to school in Boston.  😏

[Buftex]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

He is from New England went to school in Boston.  😏

Yeah...I just can't stand him.  Technical proficiency only goes so far (for me) when it comes to music. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, Buftex said:

Yeah...I just can't stand him.  Technical proficiency only goes so far (for me) when it comes to music. 

I don't mind him... Especially since being with Dead & Co... But there is something "sterile", elitist... Hypocritical about him personality-wise.  Reeks of privilege. 

[SirAndrew]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I don't mind him... Especially since being with Dead & Co... But there is something "sterile", elitist... Hypocritical about him personality-wise.  Reeks of privilege. 

Yeah, Mayer is probably around my age, and he reminds of the suburban hippy wannabes I went to school with. They talk all this new age one world, one love stuff, but actually don’t care about much more than being slim balls. 

2 hours ago, Buftex said:

Yeah...I just can't stand him.  Technical proficiency only goes so far (for me) when it comes to music. 

Mayer has the personality of an elite university frat boy, and it’s tough to tolerate in a grown man. I don’t care about musicians politics, lifestyle, or whether they’re a good person. I can’t get past Mayer’s personality though. His interviews always leave me feeling dirty, and seeing him as being slimy. This is coming from a guy who loves all the classic rock stars. They come across as mostly class acts compared to Mayer. He could write the greatest song ever, and I couldn’t get past it being John Mayer. That’s very rare for me, I don’t typically dislike people I’ve never met enough for it to ruin the music. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

27 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Yeah, Mayer is probably around my age, and he reminds of the suburban hippy wannabes I went to school with. They talk all this new age one world, one love stuff, but actually don’t care about much more than being slim balls. 

Mayer has the personality of an elite university frat boy, and it’s tough to tolerate in a grown man. I don’t care about musicians politics, lifestyle, or whether they’re a good person. I can’t get past Mayer’s personality though. His interviews always leave me feeling dirty, and seeing him as being slimy. This is coming from a guy who loves all the classic rock stars. They come across as mostly class acts compared to Mayer. He could write the greatest song ever, and I couldn’t get past it being John Mayer. That’s very rare for me, I don’t typically dislike people I’ve never met enough for it to ruin the music. 

He did do a good interview about this image...  I changed a little bit.  He's very aware of it, if it helps.

 

I will see if I can find it.

Here's one breakdown I had bookmarked:

 

 

[RaoulDuke79]

I watched him on the show Hot Ones, or whatever that show is where they eat chicken wings of increasing hotness and he came off as a pretty likeable guy to me.

[LeGOATski]

That was Maren Morris, right??

 

I was about to turn it off cuz it sucked, but then she popped in. She's one of my guilty pleasures.

 

Isn't he a little late on the 80s theme? We're onto the 90s now. He should be making a grunge album.

 

Mmmmmmmm.... Maren Morris

[The Poojer]

11 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

That was Maren Morris, right??

 

I was about to turn it off cuz it sucked, but then she popped in. She's one of my guilty pleasures.

 

Isn't he a little late on the 80s theme? We're onto the 90s now. He should be making a grunge album.

 

Mmmmmmmm.... Maren Morris

Have you listened to the Highwomen with Maren, Brandi Carlisle, Amanda Shires and Natalie Hemby???  That's some pretty solid *****!!!

[ExiledInIllinois]

You know what's really interesting... Maybe it's just me, that I find it a strange coincidence. 

 

Bob Weir and John Mayer share October 16th as their birthday.   Exactly 30 years apart.  1947/1977.

[GETTOTHE50]

He’s a good singer/songwriter, but not great. Partly is bc of his voice, but also bc his songs aren’t heavy or up-tempo. Bitchin guitarist no doubt, and that Chappelle skit he was in was hilarious. 

[Rico]

He opened for the Stones in Philly. We caught a couple songs but were not impressed at all and ended up hanging out in the beer lines. I am very impressed though with all the women he’s had. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/insider/celebrity/john-mayer-girlfriend-dating-history-taylor-swift-a4003106.html%3famp

Taylor Swift though. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

27 minutes ago, Rico said:

He opened for the Stones in Philly. We caught a couple songs but were not impressed at all and ended up hanging out in the beer lines. I am very impressed though with all the women he’s had. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/insider/celebrity/john-mayer-girlfriend-dating-history-taylor-swift-a4003106.html%3famp

Taylor Swift though. 

Come on... You gotta admit, not many can play this way:

 

 

[Rico]

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Come on... You gotta admit, not many can play this way:

 

 

Not exactly apples-to-apples, but he reminds me a little of Joe Bonamassa: great guitar player, weak front man.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Just now, Rico said:

Not exactly apples-to-apples, but he reminds me a little of Joe Bonamassa: great guitar player, weak front man.

What are you expecting?  Prancing around like Mick Jagger? 

 

IMO... Meh...

 

That's probably why he likes to play with Dead & Co.  He's an introvert.   Just think, of course he's gonna be a weak front man, he's prone to panic attacks. Yet, he gets through it... 

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

What are you expecting?  Prancing around like Mick Jagger? 

 

IMO... Meh...

 

That's probably why he likes to play with Dead & Co.  He's an introvert.   Just think, of course he's gonna be a weak front man, he's prone to panic attacks. Yet, he gets through it... 

No, I don’t expect prancing around like Mick, but I think he would be better served in a band just playing & not singing / being the main focus. Bonamassa is much better with Beth Hart. Maybe like you said, that’s how he is playing with the Dead, I don’t know, no Jerry no sale (that’s just me though, glad others are into them).

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 minutes ago, Rico said:

No, I don’t expect prancing around like Mick, but I think he would be better served in a band just playing & not singing / being the main focus. Bonamassa is much better with Beth Hart. Maybe like you said, that’s how he is playing with the Dead, I don’t know, no Jerry no sale (that’s just me though, glad others are into them).

I think the amazing part that your missing is that he's able to play the guitar that way and even carry a single note. You're splitting hairs with his singing.

 

I am not an Xs and Os guy... But since day one of releasing the song "Neon" even I could hear the intricacies.

 

I know it's poppy... Maybe that's hard to get past.  I guess we just agree to disagree how much of a feat this really is...Letting alone singing it.  Like I said, not many out there. That doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Gugny]

 

[The Poojer]

John Mayer is Dead to me!!!

[ExiledInIllinois]

Again, not an "Xs & Os" guy... But I noticed Joe Bonamassa stops playing a lot of times and sings separately.   Maybe a bit more polished w/the show, but not better IMHO...

Is it harder to sing and strum at same time?

[Gugny]

7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Again, not an "Xs & Os" guy... But I noticed Joe Bonamassa stops playing a lot of times and sings separately.   Maybe a bit more polished w/the show, but not better IMHO...

Is it harder to sing and strum at same time?

 

His backing band holds the rhythm down.  He's there to solo and throw licks in.  BB King wasn't much of a strummer, either, for the same reason.  I'm a huge Mayer (the guitarist) fan, but I do think Bonamassa is the better player.

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

His backing band holds the rhythm down.  He's there to solo and throw licks in.  BB King wasn't much of a strummer, either, for the same reason.  I'm a huge Mayer (the guitarist) fan, but I do think Bonamassa is the better player.

It maybe cheesy... But here's one of my guilty pleasure songs... AND I am a hairy enough man to admit it! 😆  We all know Kenny Loggins duet with Stevie Nicks... Ever hear the version when Loggins teamed up with his bassist: George Hawkins Jr.

Few of the better comments:

 

"If I tried to play the bass line to this and sing at the same time my brain would explode.  Kudos to Mr. Bass Man."

 

"This is the beardiest version of this song I've ever seen or heard."

 

 

On that note.  Bassists that sang lead:

 

http://www.thecavanproject.com/13-bass-playing-lead-singers/

 

"The science behind it is that the bass is a rhythm instrument while the voice is a melodic instrument, and trying to do them at the same time can be “pat your tummy, rub your head” difficult. That’s not to say impossible as the following list of talented bass playing lead singers proves!"

 

IMO... Mayer is better technically all around, singing included while actually playing is harder.

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

It maybe cheesy... But here's one of my guilty pleasure songs... AND I am a hairy enough man to admit it! 😆  We all know Kenny Loggins duet with Stevie Nicks... Ever hear the version when Loggins teamed up with his bassist: George Hawkins Jr.

 

Before today, I'd never heard - nor heard OF - this song.

[ExiledInIllinois]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Before today, I'd never heard - nor heard OF - this song.

Really?? 

 

Actually... One of those pics is with Stevie and bassist George Hawkins (He passed away recently in 2018)... Here's his eulogy by Kenny:

 

https://kennyloggins.com/rip-george-hawkins-jr/

 

 

[Gugny]

12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Really??

 

Yep.  Really.  I actually watched the video the first time you posted it.  Never heard it.

[Rico]

I greatly value “entertaining’” over “technically proficient”.  Best though to be both like say Macca in your singing bass player’s list.

12 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Yep.  Really.  I actually watched the video the first time you posted it.  Never heard it.

Fairly big in the late 70’s.

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Rico said:

I greatly value “entertaining’” over “technically proficient”.  Best though to be both like say Macca in your singing bass player’s list.

Fairly big in the late 70’s.

 

Seriously not sure how I missed it.  I was old enough to be in tune with the hits in the late 70s and also grew up with siblings 2 and 4 years older than me who were always listening to music.  Crazy!

[Rico]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Seriously not sure how I missed it.  I was old enough to be in tune with the hits in the late 70s and also grew up with siblings 2 and 4 years older than me who were always listening to music.  Crazy!

Reached #5 in the Fall of 1978…. easy to miss though after the summer of Some Girls.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whenever_I_Call_You_"Friend"

[Gugny]

10 minutes ago, Rico said:

Reached #5 in the Fall of 1978…. easy to miss though after the summer of Some Girls.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whenever_I_Call_You_"Friend"

 

This is the top 100 songs of 1978 and after a quick review, that tune is one of about five that I am not familiar with.

 

Between Queen, the Bee Gees, Boston, Grease, Styx, ELO and Wings (one of your faves, I'm sure 😂), I was a pretty busy young man.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1978

Edited July 26, 2021 by Gugny

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Seriously not sure how I missed it.  I was old enough to be in tune with the hits in the late 70s and also grew up with siblings 2 and 4 years older than me who were always listening to music.  Crazy!

Just looked it up.  Made it up to #5 in 1978. Was actually written by Melissa Manchester and Loggins.  She did a version with another dude. Logging and Manchester never got together to do a version, just wrote it, it one meeting.

12 minutes ago, Rico said:

Reached #5 in the Fall of 1978…. easy to miss though after the summer of Some Girls.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whenever_I_Call_You_"Friend"

Missed this. Ooops. 

 

Me personally... Ain't big on the entertaining part, theatrics.  But everyone probably knows that.  🤷 😆

[The Poojer]

I was wondering how we got from Mayer to Loggins/Nicks, then remembered Exiled was participating in the thread 😂