Westside Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Governor said: The next step is making all Medicare/Medicaid get it, the insurance companies will follow. That likely gets us to 90 percent vaccination. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-make-covid-19-nursing-home-staff-vaccinations-condition-receiving-medicare-2021-08-18/?utm_source=reddit.com Or how about everyone on welfare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Or how about everyone on welfare? That’s what that is dingus. I would add SNAP, etc. That’s the next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Governor said: That’s what that is dingus. I would add SNAP, etc. That’s the next step. You didn’t say that moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Bidens_basement said: You didn’t say that moron. MEDICAID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Governor said: MEDICAID Not everyone on Medicaid is on welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Not everyone on Medicaid is on welfare. Medicaid IS welfare. SMH. Edited August 18, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Governor said: Medicaid IS welfare. SMH. You do not have to be on welfare to receive Medicaid. It’s based on your income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Bidens_basement said: You do not have to be on welfare to receive Medicaid. It’s based on your income. Lol. So let me get this straight….the 1 guy on this board that’s continuously yelling about people on welfare is…..on welfare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Governor said: Lol. So let me get this straight….the 1 guy on this board that’s continuously yelling about people on welfare is…..on welfare? Are you asking me if I’m on welfare? Lol, nope, far from it. Though growing up I definitely benefited from social services. I’m actually retired, at age 55. I worked hard and made some good investments and saved. I have nothing against legitimate people who need welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Are you asking me if I’m on welfare? Lol, nope, far from it. Though growing up I definitely benefited from social services. I’m actually retired, at age 55. I worked hard and made some good investments and saved. I have nothing against legitimate people who need welfare. Medicaid is welfare health insurance. For example, NJ has their own version of Medicaid called NJFsmilycare. NY has the same thing. That’s welfare HC. It’s free HC for low-income individuals. That is welfare. Medicare is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Governor said: Medicaid is welfare health insurance. For example, NJ has their own version of Medicaid called NJFsmilycare. NY has the same thing. That’s welfare HC. It’s free HC for low-income individuals. That is welfare. Medicare is different. Administered at the state level, where it should be. I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Governor said: Medicaid is welfare health insurance. For example, NJ has their own version of Medicaid called NJFsmilycare. NY has the same thing. That’s welfare HC. It’s free HC for low-income individuals. That is welfare. Medicare is different. All people on welfare have Medicaid, not all Medicaid recipients are on welfare. If you make less than 18,000 I think, you’re eligible for Medicaid and probably food stamps. But you can still work. Welfare recipients are not encouraged to work. The one thing I hate about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Administered at the state level, where it should be. I like it The difference is: Federal Medicaid only covers people that have kids. Discrimination IMO. It rewards bad behavior (children) The state Medicaid programs cover low-income single people also. Not available in red states. Edited August 19, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sundancer said: I don't think it's a good idea but it can be implemented easily. Just do it using a secure app. NY has that Excelsior app. Is it foolproof? No. But it's idiotproof. For Bills games, you need your phone to get into Bills games already so everyone will have their phone. I expected mandatory testing before entry this year back when Trump put on the show of rapid testing and said we'd being doing hundreds of millions of those tests in a week. That was last fall, or should I say fail. Glad I don’t go to large venues. You can stick that ***** where the sun don’t shine. Afraid of it get in your bubble. I’ll stick with my small venue concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: All people on welfare have Medicaid, not all Medicaid recipients are on welfare. If you make less than 18,000 I think, you’re eligible for Medicaid and probably food stamps. But you can still work. Welfare recipients are not encouraged to work. The one thing I hate about it. There is no difference between the two. They’re the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Governor said: There is no difference between the two. They’re the same thing. Ok, if you say so. Don’t say that to someone who works full time making low wages they’re on welfare. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Governor said: The difference is: Federal Medicaid only covers people that have kids. Discrimination IMO. It rewards bad behavior (children) The state Medicaid programs cover low-income single people also. Not available in red states. Which is fine. Red states don’t want it, let them vote not have it. Blue states want it, let them vote to pay for it. Now you are starting to understand the idea of a federal republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Ok, if you say so. Don’t say that to someone who works full time making low wages they’re on welfare. Just sayin. But they are on welfare. Food stamps is welfare. If you make 9 bucks an hour and work at Walmart, you’re eligible for welfare. There is no different version of welfare for some “other” group where the government hands out fresh $1000 bills to people. The new Biden chid tax credit is a program to address child hunger. WIC is a welfare program. Edited August 19, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, nkreed said: CDC has done some massive dancing in your link. First describing breakthroughs as 'For the purpose of this surveillance, a vaccine breakthrough infection is defined as the detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA or antigen in a respiratory specimen collected from a person ≥14 days after they have completed all recommended doses of a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.' However, when they give a number it's 'CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 8,054 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died.' That's a massive goalpost shift. Now if we all CLEARLY understand these breakthroughs as 'severe enough to cause hospitalization or death' than that low number is right. With that said, however, the number of breakthrough cases is much higher. Pfizer looks to be less effective against Delta, close to 1 in 2 vaccinated may become infected and pass the virus on. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/12/mayo-clinic-covid-breakthrough-risk-may-be-much-lower-with-moderna-vaccine-than-pfizer.html I wish that this was a one off study, but I don't think it is. A study in Massachusetts found that 74% of the COVID cases found in the study were in fully vaccinated people. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7031e2-H.pdf My point isn't to scare anyone, but to read a little bit more into what you are seeing. The major Delta strain multiplies faster than our bodies immune system can respond, along with a shorter incubation period so that you can spread the disease. Not sure it's massive dancing. It's the data they are reporting on. Tracking breakthrough cases will always under-report because there will be asymptomatic and low symptom cases. (Same as unvax low symptom cases are hard to track.) Vaccines are preventing hospitalizations and deaths on a massive scale. Oh, and cases too, but that data is coming from other studies that have been linked. Some faith-based chicken little types here that vaccines don't work after 6 months but data and science say otherwise. Keep watching the data. It's evolving. Edited August 19, 2021 by Sundancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Was the vaccine ever intended to stop the contracting/spread of the virus? I always thought the vaccine was only intended to mitigate symptoms... And, if the vaccine was never intended to stop the contracting/spread of the virus, why is it labeled as a “breakthrough” if it is contracted? Just kind of seems like word manipulation to me to create a narrative about the vaccine that may not be true... Honest questions and thoughts...feel free to correct me if I’m wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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