DeSantis For President in 2024?

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

No.  Women are paid less, on average for the same work, worldwide.  Still greatly under represented in seats of govt power and boardrooms worldwide and in the US.  Still sold into marriage or slavery.  Still required to wear veils and covers in many parts of the world.   Still banned from the clergy and magisterium of the Catholic church.  The list is very long.  Desantis does his little part by banning black feminist literature which was in the list I posted earlier.  Misogyny is news to you?   It's an actual conspiracy.  Not QAnon bs.

This is pretty hilarious considering the 99.99% likelihood that you think any dude who puts on a dress should be allowed to ***** in the same bathrooms as five year old girls. 

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

They are trying to naturalize LGBT in the black community, to create a wedge between black people and white conservatives, whom blacks tend to agree with on several social issues…

 

Yes but LGBTQ+ is a social issue they strongly oppose so trying to force it on them seems silly. 

[Tenhigh]

12 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

Did I hear DeSantis wants the State to document menstrual cycles now? *****jng seriously?

 

"Anything that offends me should be illegal!" And you call others snowflakes!

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-flori

12 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

Did I hear DeSantis wants the State to document menstrual cycles now? *****jng seriously?

 

"Anything that offends me should be illegal!" And you call others snowflakes!

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802

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Read the ÷@#$ing article, Gene.  @redtail hawk, you should too.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Tenhigh said:

Read the ÷@#$ing article, Gene.  @redtail hawk, you should too.

 

Reading and understanding are hard.  Headlines are much easier...

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Back to the Desantis for President thread.

 

😎

 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

No.  Women are paid less, on average for the same work, worldwide.  Still greatly under represented in seats of govt power and boardrooms worldwide and in the US.  Still sold into marriage or slavery.  Still required to wear veils and covers in many parts of the world.   Still banned from the clergy and magisterium of the Catholic church.  The list is very long.  Desantis does his little part by banning black feminist literature which was in the list I posted earlier.  Misogyny is news to you?   It's an actual conspiracy.  Not QAnon bs.

At this point it is hard to believe that are educated- your response is minimally related to the thread or what you are responding to. Your previous accusations about DeSantis were lies so you know blame him for the issues in Middle Eastern countries? 

[Big Blitz]

“We aren’t Maoists we swear.”

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/06/us/hoover-alabama-derrick-barnes-black-author-reaj/index.html

[Orlando Tim]

5 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/06/us/hoover-alabama-derrick-barnes-black-author-reaj/index.html

Why is this about DeSantis?

[B-Man]

3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

Why is this about DeSantis?

 

 

Well, it has the words "Black"  and "Cancel" in it.

 

 

So , obviously, Hawkman 'thinks' that should connect to Ron Desantis.

 

It is either misguided or lazy

 

 

 

or both.

 

 

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[Tommy Callahan]

9 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/06/us/hoover-alabama-derrick-barnes-black-author-reaj/index.html

Wonder what those social media post were?  none of the reportings show them.

 

Here is a NON CNN article with some facts in it..  

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/author-derrick-barnes-cancels-hoover-library-visit-after-school-controversy/ar-AA16UZIo

[B-Man]

 

Is Florida Really Forbidding African-American Studies?

For the last several days I’ve been seeing breathless articles describing the “racist” actions of Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida. DeSantis announced that African-American studies classes will not be taught in public schools. Of course, the left went absolutely ballistic over this announcement. But what, exactly, did DeSantis do?

 

Let’s look at this latest kerfuffle.

 

The AP exam folks (a.k.a. Educational Testing Services – ETS) announced a couple of years ago that they are going to run an experimental AP exam for African-American studies. The exam was/is piloted in sixty high schools across the country for the 2022-23 school year. That’s sixty, 6-0, high schools in the entire country. They will add a few hundred schools in the 2023-24 school year, and then, offer it to all high schools in the 2024-25 school year. Bear in mind there are almost 27,000 public and private high schools in the country. So, in 2022-23 school year, 0.2% of all high schools in the U.S. were offering the African-American AP class. This coming year, if we assume say, 500 schools (AP website says “hundreds of schools”) that will bring it up to 1.9% of schools offering this course. And I can guaran-damn-tee that those schools will be/are in suburban, upper-middle class, white neighborhoods. Because it costs a school district money to offer AP classes. Check out this to-do list for schools wanting to offer AP classes. Bear in mind, these requirements will have to be met for each subject and each teacher.

 

{snip}

 

The DeSantis administration told ETS that the course “contradicted Florida law” and “lacked educational value.” ETS has, as is its practice, revised the course based on feedback like that, and from the sixty pilot programs. The new course framework will be release February 1 (not coincidentally the first day of Black History Month), and before the test is put into nationwide use, it will likely be tweaked once again. So, essentially DeSantis has refused to have Florida high schools participate in the first pilot of the AP exam. That is not “prohibiting” the African-American studies in Florida. This is saying “show us what you propose and we’ll get back to you.”

 

I am a huge fan of free speech and the civil exchange of ideas… all ideas.

 

But I also recognize that since we have public schools funded by taxpayers, that the state government is, of necessity (it’s own created necessity, yes) involved in education. That means that a state government is going to push for subjects it wants to see taught at all levels. If you object to DeSantis’ actions here, as the actions of an overbearing state government, then you should have objected when Democratic governors and state governments mandated DEI-type courses and programs like Critical Race Theory (yes, it’s been mandated in a lot of blue states and cities, sweetheart. Go look for yourself).

 

You cannot advocate for state interference only on behalf of your own beliefs and against beliefs contrary to yours. That’s not how it works.

 

 

More at the link: https://ornerydragon.com/2023/01/26/is-florida-really-forbidding-african-american-studies/

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, Chris farley said:

Wonder what those social media post were?  none of the reportings show them.

 

Here is a NON CNN article with some facts in it..  

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/author-derrick-barnes-cancels-hoover-library-visit-after-school-controversy/ar-AA16UZIo

from your linked article:  Barnes’ trip to Alabama fell apart after Hoover City Schools canceled three days of visits to Bluff Park, Deer Valley and Gwin Elementary schools. Barnes’ representative Patrick Oliver told AL.com the email canceling the visit was a surprise because all of the arrangements, which began in April, had gone smoothly.

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

And I can guaran-damn-tee that those schools will be/are in suburban, upper-middle class, white neighborhoods. Because it costs a school district money to offer AP classes. Check out this to-do list for schools wanting to offer AP classes. Bear in mind, these requirements will have to be met for each subject and each teacher.

So AP classes should just be junked?  great idea.  And why not start (by necessity) with the students most likely to be thought leaders and influencers?

[Tommy Callahan]

The linked article also explains he backed out because of this dispute over contracts...

 

And still trying to find out what he posted on social media. None of the sources will repeat it.  what ever it was

 

 

11 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

thought leaders and influencers?

  ???

[Tiberius]

43 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Sounds like Putin. That's exactly what Putin argues 

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Sounds like Putin. That's exactly what Putin argues 

More like EU internet privacy and libel laws.

 

 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

More like EU internet privacy and libel laws.

 

 

No, Putin says you can't trust the western media at all. DeSantis, same 

[B-Man]

11 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

 

So AP classes should just be junked?  great idea.  

 

No.

 

No one suggested that.

 

 

 

Just don't pretend that Desantis is trying to hide Black history, using a false narrative.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

The linked article also explains he backed out because of this dispute over contracts...

 

And still trying to find out what he posted on social media. None of the sources will repeat it.  what ever it was

 

 

  ???

He didn't back out of the hoover schools appearances.  they were cancelled.

re most likely comment, look at the backgrounds o mostf C suite people at top companies.  Senators or presidents for that matter.  House is often an outlier but there are certsaily plenty of whites from affluent backgrounds there too.