Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: You're desperate, @Doc. Where is the proof on Epps? Substantiate it! lol Cling to Bonnie like he provides credibility. I don't need Epps for anything other than to show you how you made a hypocrite of yourself. "What law was broken"? But OK, there's no proof on Epps. There's also no proof on Trump. Who's fantasy does that hurt more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: I don't need Epps for anything other than to show you how you made a hypocrite of yourself. "What law was broken"? But OK, there's no proof on Epps. There's also no proof on Trump. Who's fantasy does that hurt more? Oh - you don’t think I knew where you were going with this all along? lmao Who had the most to gain? Epps or Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh - you don’t think I knew where you were going with this all along? lmao Who had the most to gain? Epps or Trump? No, you didn't. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it. Trump theoretically had more to gain obviously. The reality is he gained nothing. So why was Epps actually saying it on video, like he knew nothing would (and guess what? It didn't) happen to him? But that still has nothing to do with proving Trump told them to enter the Capitol. What are you going to do when there is no evidence found? Yup, still believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: No, you didn't. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it. Trump theoretically had more to gain obviously. The reality is he gained nothing. So why was Epps actually saying it on video, like he knew nothing would (and guess what? It didn't) happen to him? But that still has nothing to do with proving Trump told them to enter the Capitol. What are you going to do when there is no evidence found? Yup, still believe it. Lol - wow - grasp harder - keep convincing yourself that all of this makes sense. Now way more importantly - where do you practice medicine? You do know we can figure this out right? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: Lol - wow - grasp harder - keep convincing yourself that all of this makes sense. Now way more importantly - where do you practice medicine? You do know we can figure this out right? Lol No, I've seen your posts. You still believe all the bull#### they fed you, even though it's all been disproven. You'll do the same here. No matter, Joey's been such a disaster that everyone except for lock-step Dems like you realize they made a huge mistake voting for him. When the commission fails to find anything, it will only get worse. And then when the socialists succeed in taking the Dem party far left... Go knock yourself out then and figure it out. Anything that keeps you from posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Doc said: No, you didn't. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it. Trump theoretically had more to gain obviously. The reality is he gained nothing. So why was Epps actually saying it on video, like he knew nothing would (and guess what? It didn't) happen to him? But that still has nothing to do with proving Trump told them to enter the Capitol. What are you going to do when there is no evidence found? Yup, still believe it. With evidence of incitement and the fact Epps hasn't been arrested, althoughh is actions, name, and address are clearly known while 100's of other's are picked up and charged with lesser offenses, the logical conclusion is he's an agency asset put at the scene to create an incident. Although the FBI or other Federal agencies or departments will probably never admit to it. And the committee will likely steer clear of digging into the details surrounding his actions. The question is how many other agents or assets were active during 1/6. What's not stated enough is the likelihood that Federal law enforcement and other Federal agencies were running an active intelligence and misinformation operation against a sitting President. To create an incident that would lead to him being accused of mounting a violent assault on the US Capitol to stop or change the Electoral Vote. Federal employees under the executive branch of government, reporting to the President working to set him up. So who are the real traitors and insurrectionists here? That's why I have such a high level of contempt and distain for the FBI and intelligence agencies. If they can do it to him, the President, then there are no limits or controls on what they can do to you and me. That's the core issue at play here. Everything else is a sideshow drama. Rogue agencies operating independently of the elected government without regard for the law or the Constitution. That's the big threat to democracy and the theme the dummies supporting the committee are missing. Edited October 31, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 14 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Dear lord you are an absolute moron, no one said they did not enter the capitol. The fact that your whole statement is predicated on a complete lie is all I need to know. Seriously find one person in this 172 page thread or stated that people did not enter the capitol. That wasn't what I was referring to with the "no they didn't line". It was more of a reference to the fact that people are being wilfully ignorant about their intentions, actions and motivation. Also you're probably an idiot. Haven't seen Tom here in a while so likely you need to be reminded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Doc said: No, I've seen your posts. You still believe all the bull#### they fed you, even though it's all been disproven. You'll do the same here. No matter, Joey's been such a disaster that everyone except for lock-step Dems like you realize they made a huge mistake voting for him. When the commission fails to find anything, it will only get worse. And then when the socialists succeed in taking the Dem party far left... Go knock yourself out then and figure it out. Anything that keeps you from posting... Wow - lol - deflect much? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, BillStime said: Wow - lol - deflect much? lol I guess, because obviously in your world "deflect" is actually "tell you the truth and watch it be proven true later when investigations find nothing." This will be no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I guess, because obviously in your world "deflect" is actually "tell you the truth and watch it be proven true later when investigations find nothing." This will be no different. Why are you so desperate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Why are you so desperate? Another of your words for "tell you the truth and watch it be proven true later when investigations find nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 54 minutes ago, yall said: That wasn't what I was referring to with the "no they didn't line". It was more of a reference to the fact that people are being wilfully ignorant about their intentions, actions and motivation. Also you're probably an idiot. Haven't seen Tom here in a while so likely you need to be reminded. Are you seriously trying to say people were saying the intent of the march was not to stop the certification of the election? Once again show me one person. Actions would be the entering of the capitol, which you just agreed no one disputes. And we all agree the motivation was to stop a Biden presidency- so once again what did people dispute? Maybe go find a comment that backs up something along the lines of what you are saying because right now you are not making any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Another of your words for "tell you the truth and watch it be proven true later when investigations find nothing." For example? lol You are so desperate you are putting all your chips on Ray Epps!!! And of course you wouldn’t dare acknowledge the fact that people at the rally were encouraging people to storm the capitol while your cult leader was speaking. loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: For example? lol You are so desperate you are putting all your chips on Ray Epps!!! And of course you wouldn’t dare acknowledge the fact that people at the rally were encouraging people to storm the capitol while your cult leader was speaking. loser LOL! No. He was a useful idiot for the government whose inability to implicate Trump should tell you everything you need to know (no wait, they're waiting for the commission to bring out this smoking gun 🤣). I just used him as a way to make you look like a fool with the "what law was broken." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Are you seriously trying to say people were saying the intent of the march was not to stop the certification of the election? Once again show me one person. Actions would be the entering of the capitol, which you just agreed no one disputes. And we all agree the motivation was to stop a Biden presidency- so once again what did people dispute? Maybe go find a comment that backs up something along the lines of what you are saying because right now you are not making any sense. It may not have been in this thread, but there were many initial reactions that claimed it was really antifa posing some false flag operation and not really Trump heads. So yes my original point clearly does make sense. And you're still an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: With evidence of incitement and the fact Epps hasn't been arrested, althoughh is actions, name, and address are clearly known while 100's of other's are picked up and charged with lesser offenses, the logical conclusion is he's an agency asset put at the scene to create an incident. Although the FBI or other Federal agencies or departments will probably never admit to it. And the committee will likely steer clear of digging into the details surrounding his actions. The question is how many other agents or assets were active during 1/6. What's not stated enough is the likelihood that Federal law enforcement and other Federal agencies were running an active intelligence and misinformation operation against a sitting President. To create an incident that would lead to him being accused of mounting a violent assault on the US Capitol to stop or change the Electoral Vote. Federal employees under the executive branch of government, reporting to the President working to set him up. So who are the real traitors and insurrectionists here? That's why I have such a high level of contempt and distain for the FBI and intelligence agencies. If they can do it to him, the President, then there are no limits or controls on what they can do to you and me. That's the core issue at play here. Everything else is a sideshow drama. Rogue agencies operating independently of the elected government without regard for the law or the Constitution. That's the big threat to democracy and the theme the dummies supporting the committee are missing. If you had told me a similar statement as "the FBI set this up" 5 years ago I would have rejected it put of hand immediately and not even thought about it. The FBI though has outed itself as a partisan organization, and since January 6th was clearly well known before the date the lack of prep work is at a minimum pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: If you had told me a similar statement as "the FBI set this up" 5 years ago I would have rejected it put of hand immediately and not even thought about it. The FBI though has outed itself as a partisan organization, and since January 6th was clearly well known before the date the lack of prep work is at a minimum pathetic. So is your assertion that the FBI knowingly allowed it to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, yall said: It may not have been in this thread, but there were many initial reactions that claimed it was really antifa posing some false flag operation and not really Trump heads. So yes my original point clearly does make sense. And you're still an idiot. So I am the idiot when you had to walk back an initial statement, which you could not defend, to somewhere you saw someone say something that resembles what you need to believe. BTW do you believe that everyone who entered the capitol is a Trump supporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 45 minutes ago, Doc said: LOL! No. He was a useful idiot for the government whose inability to implicate Trump should tell you everything you need to know (no wait, they're waiting for the commission to bring out this smoking gun 🤣). I just used him as a way to make you look like a fool with the "what law was broken." Do you still believe in Santa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, yall said: So is your assertion that the FBI knowingly allowed it to happen? I am not asserting it, I am stating it is unfortunately believable due to their political activities. I am curious why do you think they were so ill prepared for a well publicized event with known bad actors present? Epps, whether fed or not, stated on camera he planned to enter the capitol on January 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Do you still believe in Santa? Sure. He'll deliver you a lump of coal. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, yall said: So is your assertion that the FBI knowingly allowed it to happen? Allowed it to happen? I believe the truth will come out that various agency assets present on 1/6 made it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Allowed it to happen? I believe the truth will come out that various agency assets present on 1/6 made it happen. At the very least, it was inexcusable incompetence in not having anywhere close to enough security around the Capitol when they had advanced warning of the rally and they knew people would be upset. This wasn't some "spontaneous protest over an internet video [made and posted months earlier]." And my minimum point with Epps is that all it takes is for one person to plant an idea, incite a crowd and then facilitate what he's advocating. And he doesn't necessarily have to be working with someone/some group (and again, if Trump and/or any Repub had told him to break into the Capitol, we would have known by now). Edited October 31, 2021 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Doc said: At the very least, it was inexcusable incompetence in not having anywhere close to enough security around the Capitol when they had advanced warning of the rally and they knew people would be upset. This wasn't some "spontaneous protest over an internet video [made and posted months earlier]." And my minimum point with Epps is that all it takes is for one person to plant an idea, incite a crowd and then facilitate what he's advocating. And he doesn't necessarily have to be working with someone/some group (and again, if Trump and/or any Repub had told him to break into the Capitol, we would have known by now). I suggest at this point "The Committee" is less interested in the truth than they are in keeping the story front-and-center for as long as possible. What does anyone expect from a group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectively? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I suggest at this point "The Committee" is less interested in the truth than they are in keeping the story front-and-center for as long as possible. What does anyone expect from a group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectively? And why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 8 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I suggest at this point "The Committee" is less interested in the truth than they are in keeping the story front-and-center for as long as possible. What does anyone expect from a group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectively? No need to suggest: that's exactly what they're doing. Again there are whole departments full of individuals whose job 24/7/52 is to investigate this stuff...and they've come up empty. A committee full of idiots who have staffers do their work isn't going to find *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 7 hours ago, BillStime said: And why is that? See 2nd sentence: A group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: See 2nd sentence: A group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. Oh dear, you don't think that he actually read your reply, before he commented, do you ? "An 'insurrection,' as the dictionary will tell you, is a violent uprising against a government or other established authority." "Unlike the violent riots that swept the country in the summer of 2020—riots that caused some $2 billion in property damage and claimed more than 20 lives—the January 6 protest at the Capitol lasted a few hours, caused minimal damage, and the only person directly killed was an unarmed female Trump supporter who was shot by a Capitol Hill Police officer. It was, as Tucker Carlson said shortly after the event, a political protest that 'got out of hand.'" Writes Roger Kimball in "The January 6 Insurrection Hoax" (Real Clear Politics). https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/10/31/the_january_6_insurrection_hoax_146663.html . Edited November 1, 2021 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: See 2nd sentence: A group of lawmakers all believing a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. So nothing nefarious happened? And if something nefarious happened the select committee isn’t bipartisan enough for you to be legit? Edited November 1, 2021 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Or Trump is guilty AF and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. All-Pro's point is proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: a specific pre-conceived conclusion and not disposed in any way to proceed with any sense of objectivity. All-Pro's point is proved. Please tell us what credibility Trump has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Ohhh - now why would Lindsey want the police to shoot those “unarmed” tourists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 hours ago, BillStime said: Ohhh - now why would Lindsey want the police to shoot those “unarmed” tourists? Obviously fear of what could happen. But didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Obviously fear of what could happen. But didn't. How many people got hurt and died that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, BillStime said: How many people got hurt and died that day? Several got hurt. One was killed in cold blood by a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Several got hurt. One was killed in cold blood by a cop. So how many people at the Capitol that day didn’t make it home alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: So how many people at the Capitol that day didn’t make it home alive? is this one of those math problems that i didnt read correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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