C.Biscuit97 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Matt Barkley best characteristic is he’s a really nice guy. His career qb rating is 66.6!!! backup qb is the weakest position on this team and it’s not hard to do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Matt Barkley best characteristic is he’s a really nice guy. His career qb rating is 66.6!!! backup qb is the weakest position on this team and it’s not hard to do better. TJ Yates has a new coaching gig so he is not an option anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Back-up QB might be the least important off-season decision. If Josh gets hurt, we are screwed regardless of who the back-up QB is. If Barkley’s OK with $1m per year and he helps Josh get better, then bring him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Matt Barkley best characteristic is he’s a really nice guy. His career qb rating is 66.6!!! backup qb is the weakest position on this team and it’s not hard to do better. OK, who do you suggest? And critically this season, how much money would they request? If it's not hard to do better, not hard to come up with some names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Back-up QB might be the least important off-season decision. If Josh gets hurt, we are screwed regardless of who the back-up QB is. If Barkley’s OK with $1m per year and he helps Josh get better, then bring him back. Might want to tell the saints that who have gone like 7-0 in games Drew Brees missed the past 2 years. obviously, it’s a huge downgrade if your backup plays. But Barkley is one of the worst qbs in the nfl (super nice guy). You can do so much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Might want to tell the saints that who have gone like 7-0 in games Drew Brees missed the past 2 years. obviously, it’s a huge downgrade if your backup plays. But Barkley is one of the worst qbs in the nfl (super nice guy). You can do so much better. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK, who do you suggest? And critically this season, how much money would they request? If it's not hard to do better, not hard to come up with some names Winston dalton Fitz brisett Newton Tribusky Joe Flacco because the Bills are legit SB contenders and have awesome receivers, they can get a guy for less with the chance to be on a SB contender and potentially get some starts on a SB caliber roster that could could led to a starting job the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Not sure how much a players wife enters into Beane's thoughts of the team per say but believe he does notice her as someone close to the team that can help out in ways as far as making new players wives comfortable and is also a asset to the community surrounding the Bills contributions to it . Barkley has been a great team guy but has come up short on ways when on the field no matter where he has been given the other QB's on the roster i would like to see them get some more reps they know what Matt is the others maybe not so much . If the article is a good report of what Davis is i think McBeane will want to see more possibly because they always talk what's best for the team moving forward and if he or Fromm are the guy they will be much cheaper than Matt in a yr when money is a object due to the cap shrinking a bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I've been saying that if Barkley has been a help to Josh and worth keeping around in that role, they could easily kick him into a(n assistant QB) coaching position. Daboll and Dorsey may not be with the Bills after the coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Winston dalton Fitz brisett Newton Tribusky Joe Flacco because the Bills are legit SB contenders and have awesome receivers, they can get a guy for less with the chance to be on a SB contender and potentially get some starts on a SB caliber roster that could could led to a starting job the following season. Flacco is absolutely terrible now and just collecting game checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Flacco is absolutely terrible now and just collecting game checks. Terrible Flacco this year: 80.6 qb on the crappy Jets. Trust me, I’m not arguing he’s good. I just think Barkley (really nice guy) is really really bad and barely nfl caliber. this is a first world problem and it’s nice to have. But I would be terrified if he had to play. Those other guys aren’t great but they are better than Barkley. it’s weird that in every other position you try to get the best possible players. But at qb, you get the non threatening, nice, get along with the starter guy regardless of ability. It’s amazing how many terrible guys stay in the nfl. I mean good for them I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Terrible Flacco this year: 80.6 qb on the crappy Jets. Trust me, I’m not arguing he’s good. I just think Barkley (really nice guy) is really really bad and barely nfl caliber. this is a first world problem and it’s nice to have. But I would be terrified if he had to play. Those other guys aren’t great but they are better than Barkley. it’s weird that in every other position you try to get the best possible players. But at qb, you get the non threatening, nice, get along with the starter guy regardless of ability. It’s amazing how many terrible guys stay in the nfl. I mean good for them I guess. Doesn't matter what his rating is, he was 0-4 and his only good performance (against the Cheaters) saw him throw the game away. The point being, a backup won't be winning you many games if the team around him is terrible. But in the Bills' case, without a running game, likely no backup QB would have been able to do what Josh was able to do, and that's why I think he's the true MVP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Doc said: Doesn't matter what his rating is, he was 0-4 and his only good performance (against the Cheaters) saw him throw the game away. The point being, a backup won't be winning you many games if the team around him is terrible. But in the Bills' case, without a running game, likely no backup QB would have been able to do what Josh was able to do, and that's why I think he's the true MVP. So Flacco would have went 0-4 on the Bills? I guarantee he would have won some of his starts here. It’s worlds apart between us and the Jets. Same thing with Cam (who’s arm might just be shot). You are leaving a bottom 5 offensive situation for a top 5ish one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: So Flacco would have went 0-4 on the Bills? I guarantee he would have won some of his starts here. It’s worlds apart between us and the Jets. Same thing with Cam (who’s arm might just be shot). You are leaving a bottom 5 offensive situation for a top 5ish one. Maybe not 0-4 but I doubt he wins more than 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Might want to tell the saints that who have gone like 7-0 in games Drew Brees missed the past 2 years. obviously, it’s a huge downgrade if your backup plays. But Barkley is one of the worst qbs in the nfl (super nice guy). You can do so much better. Brees routinely got subbed out when he was healthy and was an extremely limited QB at the end. Josh is our offense. Not saying Barkley couldn’t be upgraded, but given the Bills current cap situation and the fact that we have no running game, whatever money we spend on upgrading Barkley could be put to a better use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Terrible Flacco this year: 80.6 qb on the crappy Jets. Trust me, I’m not arguing he’s good. I just think Barkley (really nice guy) is really really bad and barely nfl caliber. this is a first world problem and it’s nice to have. But I would be terrified if he had to play. Those other guys aren’t great but they are better than Barkley. it’s weird that in every other position you try to get the best possible players. But at qb, you get the non threatening, nice, get along with the starter guy regardless of ability. It’s amazing how many terrible guys stay in the nfl. I mean good for them I guess. Barkley was 80.9 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Barkley was 80.9 this year. 21 passes. 😉 20 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Brees routinely got subbed out when he was healthy and was an extremely limited QB at the end. Josh is our offense. Not saying Barkley couldn’t be upgraded, but given the Bills current cap situation and the fact that we have no running game, whatever money we spend on upgrading Barkley could be put to a better use. I mean Brees did account for 53 tds in 23 games the last 2 seasons but I see your point. and I know it’s nitpicking but with a SB caliber team, i think it’s a sneaky big need. Barkley has won 2 games in his career and his arm simply isn’t nfl caliber. we’ve been real lucky with Allen not getting anything major. But it would a shame to have a championship season ruined by not upgrading that position. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 21 passes. 😉 I mean Brees did account for 53 tds in 23 games the last 2 seasons but I see your point. and I know it’s nitpicking but with a SB caliber team, i think it’s a sneaky big need. Barkley has won 2 games in his career and his arm simply isn’t nfl caliber. we’ve been real lucky with Allen not getting anything major. But it would a shame to have a championship season ruined by not upgrading that position. JMO. I am going to go out on a limb and say that we already have a decent backup on the team: Davis Webb. He has a year in our system too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I think it will be Fromm and Davis Webb battling it out in TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) No, the back-up QB is not the most under-the-radar or enticing off-season story line. I could not care less who our backup QB is. If Josh goes down we are screwed, end of story. Do not waste valuable salary cap money on an expensive backup QB, especially when the Cap is projected to go down. Edited February 3, 2021 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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