Gene Frenkle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Gene, I watched her actually speak. Unlike many on here who prefer to get their information from second hand nitwits on Twitter. You may have watched her spew, and you may have watched her spin, but you have never heard this clown speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, LeviF said: It's entirely possible to do so. The problem is that you want to imagine there is some kind of large, ongoing, national socialist conspiracy that is helping to inform policy decisions when in fact this does not exist. Deliberately or not, you want to insert imaginary enemies into a discussion about American life in the 20th and 21st centuries in order to assert that life is better now than it ever has been but for those dang nazis that are just messing it all up. It's dishonest. It's absurd on its face. It's an attempt to shout down any notion that suggests that hey, maybe the direction this country is going in isn't the best thing for her people. If you want the GOP to be the party of nazis, then fine, I reserve the right to say the DNC is the party of Bolsheviks. Charlottesville was just a bunch of unruly kids tired of being shouted down. Why do you soften nazi to national socialist? It sounds so refined for a group that committed mass murder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: You may have watched her spew, and you may have watched her spin, but you have never heard this clown speak. Okay Gene….I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Okay Gene….I guess. She's a clown, right? Why are you defending this trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: She's a clown, right? Why are you defending this trash? She is a clown. But even a clown deserves to be heard, not misrepresented or misquoted. She’s trying to make a point about the one size fits all approach that emanates from Washington these days. Which was not what the Founding Fathers envisioned when they formed a union of states. Edited February 22, 2023 by SoCal Deek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Charlottesville was just a bunch of unruly kids tired of being shouted down. Why do you soften nazi to national socialist? It sounds so refined for a group that committed mass murder. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/national-socialist-movement Mr Colucci doesn't fear the word “I’m a [expletive] Nazi and I’m [expletive] proud of it.” – Burt Colucci, in footage of his arrest in Arizona, April 19, 2021 “You know what this bull#### translates to? White people got nice *****, white people worked for it, and Black people want it. … They have no interest in equality. They want to ***** rule us.” – NSM leader Burt Colucci on NSM’s podcast, June 2, 2020 Edited February 22, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: She is a clown. But even a clown deserves to be heard, not misrepresented or misquoted. She’s trying to make a point about the one size fits all approach that emanates from Washington these days. Which was not what the Founding Fathers envisioned when they formed a union of states. No, IMO the politician talking about Jewish Space Lasers does not deserve to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Charlottesville was just a bunch of unruly kids tired of being shouted down. Why do you soften nazi to national socialist? It sounds so refined for a group that committed mass murder. Charlottesville, Ukraine Azof soldiers and supporters? Still remember the Lincoln project Pedos paying people to dress up with Khakis and Ticki torches at the Youngkin event. Wonder if they had security in case people took offence. The MSM and its mouthpieces even tried to run with the picture as fact that these nazis are still everywhere. Eff Nazis, fascist and communist. and their pathetic passive supporters. Richard Sponsor is a NAZI that openly states he is a Socialist and supports National healthcare, housing, Planned parenthood and what not. and brags that the reasoning is so they could remove or hold it from some groups, cause he is a RACIST and nazi. Edited February 22, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said: No, IMO the politician talking about Jewish Space Lasers does not deserve to be heard. And that’s your purgative, but then also don’t misquote her if you never actually listened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Chris farley said: Charlottesville, Ukraine Azof soldiers and supporters? Still remember the Lincoln project Pedos paying people to dress up with Khakis and Ticki torches at the Youngkin event. Wonder if they had security in case people took offence. The MSM and its mouthpieces even tried to run with the picture as fact that these nazis are still everywhere. Eff Nazis, fascist and communist. and their pathetic passive supporters. so why are you defending them? How many fascists are too many? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: Charlottesville, Ukraine Azof soldiers and supporters? Still remember the Lincoln project Pedos paying people to dress up with Khakis and Ticki torches at the Youngkin event. Wonder if they had security in case people took offence. The MSM and its mouthpieces even tried to run with the picture as fact that these nazis are still everywhere. Eff Nazis, fascist and communist. and their pathetic passive supporters. iT's A cOnSpIrAcY!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/national-socialist-movement Mr Colucci doesn't fear the word “I’m a [expletive] Nazi and I’m [expletive] proud of it.” – Burt Colucci, in footage of his arrest in Arizona, April 19, 2021 “You know what this bull#### translates to? White people got nice *****, white people worked for it, and Black people want it. … They have no interest in equality. They want to ***** rule us.” – NSM leader Burt Colucci on NSM’s podcast, June 2, 2020 n May 2011, the National Socialist Movement was described by The New York Times as being "the largest supremacist group, with about 400 members in 32 states, though much of its prominence followed the decay of Aryan Nation and other neo-Nazi groups" 400 people. Mother of god 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/national-socialist-movement It's a goddamn mystery, columbo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And that’s your purgative, but then also don’t misquote her if you never actually listened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: so why are you defending them? How many fascists are too many? comprehension is kinda important. one in power. Why does the left support them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: n May 2011, the National Socialist Movement was described by The New York Times as being "the largest supremacist group, with about 400 members in 32 states, though much of its prominence followed the decay of Aryan Nation and other neo-Nazi groups" 400 people. Mother of god 500 per the ADM and then all of these: The following is a list of organizations, both active and defunct, whose ideological beliefs are categorized as neo-Nazism. This includes political parties, terrorist cells, street gangs, social clubs, criminal groups, websites, religious sects, and other organizations alike. Various white power skinhead groups as well as select factions of the Ku Klux Klan are listed only if they espouse neo-Nazi ideals as a whole. This list does not include pre-1945 organizations founded either before or during World War II; "neo-Nazi" literally means "new Nazi". The Americas[edit] North America[edit] Canada[edit] Aryan Guard Aryan Nations Heritage Front Northern Order Resistance Records Mexico[edit] Mexican National Socialist Party[2][3][4] Nationalist Front of Mexico[5] Orden Nacional Socialista Pagano[6] United States[edit] Atomwaffen Division American Front American Nazi Party Aryan Brotherhood of Texas Aryan Brotherhood Aryan Circle Aryan Nations Aryan Republican Army Battalion 14/Connecticut White Wolves[7][8] The Daily Stormer Identity Evropa Libertarian National Socialist Green Party[9][10][11] Maryland National Socialist Party[12][7] National Alliance National Socialist Liberation Front National Socialist Movement National Socialist Vanguard National Vanguard Nationalist Front Nationalist Social Club National States' Rights Party NSDAP/AO Patriot Front Proud Boys Renegade Tribune The Right Stuff Rise Above Movement The Order Traditionalist Worker Party Vanguard America Edited February 22, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: n May 2011, the National Socialist Movement was described by The New York Times as being "the largest supremacist group, with about 400 members in 32 states, though much of its prominence followed the decay of Aryan Nation and other neo-Nazi groups" 400 people. Mother of god Nation of islam boast over 75K members. 50K in Michigan alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: Nation of islam boast over 75K members. 50K in Michigan alone. oh, good. I feel better now. Moron 5 minutes ago, LeviF said: It's a goddamn mystery, columbo. we were talking about Colucci...do you agree with him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: 500 per the ADM and then all of these: The following is a list of organizations, both active and defunct, whose ideological beliefs are categorized as neo-Nazism. This includes political parties, terrorist cells, street gangs, social clubs, criminal groups, websites, religious sects, and other organizations alike. Various white power skinhead groups as well as select factions of the Ku Klux Klan are listed only if they espouse neo-Nazi ideals as a whole. This list does not include pre-1945 organizations founded either before or during World War II; "neo-Nazi" literally means "new Nazi". The Americas[edit] North America[edit] Canada[edit] Aryan Guard Aryan Nations Heritage Front Northern Order Resistance Records Mexico[edit] Mexican National Socialist Party[2][3][4] Nationalist Front of Mexico[5] Orden Nacional Socialista Pagano[6] United States[edit] Atomwaffen Division American Front American Nazi Party Aryan Brotherhood of Texas Aryan Brotherhood Aryan Circle Aryan Nations Aryan Republican Army Battalion 14/Connecticut White Wolves[7][8] The Daily Stormer Identity Evropa Libertarian National Socialist Green Party[9][10][11] Maryland National Socialist Party[12][7] National Alliance National Socialist Liberation Front National Socialist Movement National Socialist Vanguard National Vanguard Nationalist Front Nationalist Social Club National States' Rights Party NSDAP/AO Patriot Front Proud Boys Renegade Tribune The Right Stuff Rise Above Movement The Order Traditionalist Worker Party Vanguard America Now that's a whole heap of Nazi's right there boy, I"ll tell you what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: 500 per the ADM and then all of these: The following is a list of organizations, both active and defunct, whose ideological beliefs are categorized as neo-Nazism. This includes political parties, terrorist cells, street gangs, social clubs, criminal groups, websites, religious sects, and other organizations alike. Various white power skinhead groups as well as select factions of the Ku Klux Klan are listed only if they espouse neo-Nazi ideals as a whole. This list does not include pre-1945 organizations founded either before or during World War II; "neo-Nazi" literally means "new Nazi". The Americas[edit] North America[edit] Canada[edit] Aryan Guard Aryan Nations Heritage Front Northern Order Resistance Records Mexico[edit] Mexican National Socialist Party[2][3][4] Nationalist Front of Mexico[5] Orden Nacional Socialista Pagano[6] United States[edit] Atomwaffen Division American Front American Nazi Party Aryan Brotherhood of Texas Aryan Brotherhood Aryan Circle Aryan Nations Aryan Republican Army Battalion 14/Connecticut White Wolves[7][8] The Daily Stormer Identity Evropa Libertarian National Socialist Green Party[9][10][11] Maryland National Socialist Party[12][7] National Alliance National Socialist Liberation Front National Socialist Movement National Socialist Vanguard National Vanguard Nationalist Front Nationalist Social Club National States' Rights Party NSDAP/AO Patriot Front Proud Boys Renegade Tribune The Right Stuff Rise Above Movement The Order Traditionalist Worker Party Vanguard America but his group was touted as the largest group so all those add up to what? 1500 people lol? There could be like a guy in his basement that’s the only member of vanguard America lol. This is so hilarious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 The famous white supremacists of the Mexican National Socialist Party 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And that’s your purgative, but then also don’t misquote her if you never actually listened. TBF, she never said "Jewish", but I think it's fair to say it's at least implied by invoking conspiracy-favorites, the Rothschilds. Regardless, she seems to say that wildfires were started by space lasers, which is just dumb. But she's just "asking questions"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: we were talking about Colucci...do you agree with him? "We" weren't talking about anyone. And I don't even know who that is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: 500 per the ADM and then all of these: The following is a list of organizations, both active and defunct, whose ideological beliefs are categorized as neo-Nazism. This includes political parties, terrorist cells, street gangs, social clubs, criminal groups, websites, religious sects, and other organizations alike. Various white power skinhead groups as well as select factions of the Ku Klux Klan are listed only if they espouse neo-Nazi ideals as a whole. This list does not include pre-1945 organizations founded either before or during World War II; "neo-Nazi" literally means "new Nazi". The Americas[edit] North America[edit] Canada[edit] Aryan Guard Aryan Nations Heritage Front Northern Order Resistance Records Mexico[edit] Mexican National Socialist Party[2][3][4] Nationalist Front of Mexico[5] Orden Nacional Socialista Pagano[6] United States[edit] Atomwaffen Division American Front American Nazi Party Aryan Brotherhood of Texas Aryan Brotherhood Aryan Circle Aryan Nations Aryan Republican Army Battalion 14/Connecticut White Wolves[7][8] The Daily Stormer Identity Evropa Libertarian National Socialist Green Party[9][10][11] Maryland National Socialist Party[12][7] National Alliance National Socialist Liberation Front National Socialist Movement National Socialist Vanguard National Vanguard Nationalist Front Nationalist Social Club National States' Rights Party NSDAP/AO Patriot Front Proud Boys Renegade Tribune The Right Stuff Rise Above Movement The Order Traditionalist Worker Party Vanguard America lol I missed your first sentence. Did you really correct me from 400 to 500 people like it’s some huge difference? Oh my god I needed this today. Slept like ***** but man what a great laugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Now that's a whole heap of Nazi's right there boy, I"ll tell you what. Hank? Hank Hill?? Outstanding!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I don’t know about the rest of you but I can’t even go out for a drink on a Friday evening without tripping over NAZIS left and right. They’re everywhere! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/number-of-hate-groups-declined-in-2021-but-proud-boys-chapters-surging-says-splc 733 groups are no big deal tho. they're all very fine people. Given their rigid, concrete beliefs I don't understand why they don't want to stand up and be counted???? represent!! Edited February 22, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Hank? Hank Hill?? Outstanding!! Tellyouhwhatman itsthemdangolnazisagainman talkinboutjewsandthereichandstuffman andijustsaydangwhydontyalljustshutup talkinboutthisisdangoltexas...man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 So is it ok to call people nazis again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Shitlib NOT attempt to derail conversation into irrelevant phrase picking challenge: IMPOSSIBLE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: So is it ok to call people nazis again? Why? Did it stop you when it wasn't ok? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/number-of-hate-groups-declined-in-2021-but-proud-boys-chapters-surging-says-splc 733 groups are no big deal tho. they're all very fine people. Given their rigid, concrete beliefs I don't understand why they don't want to stand up and be counted???? represent!! give us a member count. Do you have more or less Facebook friends than total nazis in those groups? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, LeviF said: Shitlib NOT attempt to derail conversation into irrelevant phrase picking challenge: IMPOSSIBLE quick transition from a cartoon TV character to an angry directive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: So is it ok to call people nazis again? you can call people nazis all you want but at least admit that these groups membership numbers are not as impressive as you make them out to be. You seem to imply they’re this massive threat but in reality are hundreds of losers mainly living in their parents basements doing nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Citing the friggin southern poverty law center is a surefire way to let people know that you shouldn't be taken seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: you can call people nazis all you want but at least admit that these groups membership numbers are not as impressive as you make them out to be. You seem to imply they’re this massive threat but in reality are hundreds of losers mainly living in their parents basements doing nothing there are over 700 organizations - what would you guess the average number of members is? If colucci's group is average at 500 that's 350000 hate group members. Edited February 22, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: there are over 700 organizations - what would you guess the average number of members is? If colucci's group is average at 500 that's 350000 hate group members. His is the largest. That doesn’t mean every other one has 499 members. lol give me some actual numbers cause for all we know these other groups have one member each or they’re al the same members just members of multiple groups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: Charlottesville was just a bunch of unruly kids tired of being shouted down. I'm not sure what you mean here. Could you explain this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, aristocrat said: you can call people nazis all you want but at least admit that these groups membership numbers are not as impressive as you make them out to be. You seem to imply they’re this massive threat but in reality are hundreds of losers mainly living in their parents basements doing nothing Not to mention how many confidential/fictitious identities of federal agents are on those membership rolls. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 methinks you protest too much... 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: I'm not sure what you mean here. Could you explain this? replying to levi. being facetious. 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: His is the largest. That doesn’t mean every other one has 499 members. lol give me some actual numbers cause for all we know these other groups have one member each or they’re al the same members just members of multiple groups. you have this info in your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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