[Name Only Title] Najee Harris

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Plug and play on offense vs project/ elite traits edge?  I think its an argument to be had.

 

yep.  I'd take the plug and play on offense, shed some cap and go with FA signing for edge/passrusher.  

[ehfeuh57]

I have a 1st round grade on Najee and he is easily the best RB in the draft

[CommonCents]

Just now, DrDare said:

I have a 1st round grade on Najee and he is easily the best RB in the draft

They didn’t take Chubb or Dobbins in the 2nd, If they take Najee in the first that would hurt my brain. 

 

 

[Sweats]

Harris is a stud....imagine a RB double threat who can effectively catch and is an elusive runner.

This kid is generational.

[Old Coot]

Cover 1 video on the Bills' running game issues:

 

 

[Figster]

On 1/26/2021 at 5:49 PM, Bill from NYC said:

I am not pushing for the Bills to use a first round pick on Najee, but I disagree with those who think that he will last until we select in round 2. I do so for the following reasons:

 

1) Najee is a very strong kid and appears to be in perfect condition. The fact that he can leap over people the way he does is no accident.

 

2) He is a very smart player and will not have a problem learning any system, let alone if Daboll stays.

 

3) Najee is a great blocker. GREAT, and he developed into a fine receiver.

 

Whoever selects Najee will be getting a hard working, serious, very intelligent, fine player.

I tried various trades with the draft/ trade simulator and its impossible for Buffalo to land Najee. Harris goes in the middle of the 1st. Alabama knows a thing or two about RB's. Harris fits the Bill IMO. Unfortunately I get the feeling to many teams want to get their hands on Najee Harris enough to reach a little more then Beane will go in my humble opinion.

[Billl]

On 1/26/2021 at 7:37 PM, CommonCents said:

They didn’t take Chubb or Dobbins in the 2nd, If they take Najee in the first that would hurt my brain. 

 

 

Harris is a better prospect than either of those guys.

[Bill from NYC]

7 minutes ago, Figster said:

I tried various trades with the draft/ trade simulator and its impossible for Buffalo to land Najee. Harris goes in the middle of the 1st. Alabama knows a thing or two about RB's. Harris fits the Bill IMO. Unfortunately I get the feeling to many teams want to get their hands on Najee Harris enough to reach a little more then Beane will go in my humble opinion.

I would say that your post nails it.

 

[Figster]

2 minutes ago, Billl said:

Harris is a better prospect than either of those guys.

I think Harris may have Thurman Thomas all purpose potential that would really go well in tye Daboll/ Allen Offense IMO.

[Figster]

4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I would say that your post nails it.

 

I would say your OP nails it and why Najee seems like he's exactly what the doctor ordered as the process player that could put Buffalo over the top IMO.

[LABILLBACKER]

Let's not kid ourselves folks, our run game needs an overhaul.  Moss is decent but not great and I think Singletary lost alot of favor this last season. I won't go into detail about either of our 3rd round guys but we clearly need better. Najee Harris would be perfect for our team and especially Josh. He is 6-2/230 with both power and speed. He is amazing receiving on dump offs or wheel routes. We can keep Moss as an RB2 and eventually release Motor.  Unfortunately I don't think he will still be there at 61? So we may have to pull the trigger at 30 which I still think is a great value pick.  Hopefully we can upgrade the OL a little to improve our disappointing run blocking. 

[Billl]

1 minute ago, Figster said:

I think Harris may have Thurman Thomas all purpose potential that would really go well in tye Daboll/ Allen Offense IMO.

He may have more to lose/gain at the combine than anyone.  If he can run a 4.45, he’s going mid to late first round.  If he’s 4.55, he could fall.  The Bills need speed on both sides of the ball, but particularly on offense.  The AFCCG highlighted that.  For all the complaining about coaching and play calling, the difference in the game is that one team had burners and the other didn’t.  
 

Kelce was killing Edmunds and even White all day over the middle, but Frazier couldn’t do much to help because Hill and Hardman  (even without Watkins) were hitting them for massive plays when they got loose.  If you watch the “behind the game” videos, the Bills players weren’t talking about Kelce killing them.  They were marveling at how damned fast Hill is.  You can’t teach speed, and the only way to counter it is to ‘cheat’ by trying to anticipate routes, shading one direction, etc.  When that fails, you wind up over pursuing, and it’s off to the races.

 

Buffalo has nobody like that on offense, particularly when Brown is out.  McKenzie is fast, but he’s more of a gadget guy.  If I’m Beane, I’m drafting speed.  Outside of Diggs, he’s brought in a lot of slow players.  Beasley, Moss, Singletary, Davis are all slow.  Go get some dudes who can make teams pay for mistakes with 6 points instead of 15 yards.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Billl said:

He may have more to lose/gain at the combine than anyone.  If he can run a 4.45, he’s going mid to late first round.  If he’s 4.55, he could fall.  The Bills need speed on both sides of the ball, but particularly on offense.  The AFCCG highlighted that.  For all the complaining about coaching and play calling, the difference in the game is that one team had burners and the other didn’t.

 

I'm not sure I entirely go with that last, but not the place....

 

....thought there wasn't going to be a combine this year?  All testing done only at the school Pro Days.

[LABILLBACKER]

27 minutes ago, Figster said:

I think Harris may have Thurman Thomas all purpose potential that would really go well in tye Daboll/ Allen Offense IMO.

I see alot of responses where Bills fans are terrified of losing that passing edge that Josh brings. Bringing on a better more dynamic running back like Najee doesn't mean Daboll is going to scrub the pass attack.  Right now Josh is like 90% of our offense. Having Josh design run as much as he does is stupid and dangerous. He gets hurt the seasons over. You saw how KC easily shut down our passing game by dropping 7. They ignored and basically laughed at our run game. Drafting Najee changes that instantly. We'll still probably throw 70% of the time but now teams will have to gameplan for both. Elway need Terrell and Aikman needed Emmett. Just like we don't even sniff 1 SB without Thurman......

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

8 minutes ago, Billl said:

He may have more to lose/gain at the combine than anyone.  If he can run a 4.45, he’s going mid to late first round.  If he’s 4.55, he could fall.  The Bills need speed on both sides of the ball, but particularly on offense.  The AFCCG highlighted that.  For all the complaining about coaching and play calling, the difference in the game is that one team had burners and the other didn’t.  
 

Kelce was killing Edmunds and even White all day over the middle, but Frazier couldn’t do much to help because Hill and Hardman  (even without Watkins) were hitting them for massive plays when they got loose.  If you watch the “behind the game” videos, the Bills players weren’t talking about Kelce killing them.  They were marveling at how damned fast Hill is.  You can’t teach speed, and the only way to counter it is to ‘cheat’ by trying to anticipate routes, shading one direction, etc.  When that fails, you wind up over pursuing, and it’s off to the races.

 

Buffalo has nobody like that on offense, particularly when Brown is out.  McKenzie is fast, but he’s more of a gadget guy.  If I’m Beane, I’m drafting speed.  Outside of Diggs, he’s brought in a lot of slow players.  Beasley, Moss, Singletary, Davis are all slow.  Go get some dudes who can make teams pay for mistakes with 6 points instead of 15 yards.

Exactly, this is why I really want Kadarius Toney (WR/Florida) if he is there at #30. Toney has the long-term potential to have a Hill-like impact (and he's bigger) plus has the jet sweep/returning ability. Unfortunately for us, he had an unreal Senior Bowl and might not make it to our spot. 

 

 

[Billl]

16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm not sure I entirely go with that last, but not the place....

 

....thought there wasn't going to be a combine this year?  All testing done only at the school Pro Days.

Forgot about that.  Either way, the stopwatch is going to have a big impact on Harris’s draft stock, IMO.

[DCOrange]

21 minutes ago, Billl said:

He may have more to lose/gain at the combine than anyone.  If he can run a 4.45, he’s going mid to late first round.  If he’s 4.55, he could fall.  The Bills need speed on both sides of the ball, but particularly on offense.  The AFCCG highlighted that.  For all the complaining about coaching and play calling, the difference in the game is that one team had burners and the other didn’t.  
 

Kelce was killing Edmunds and even White all day over the middle, but Frazier couldn’t do much to help because Hill and Hardman  (even without Watkins) were hitting them for massive plays when they got loose.  If you watch the “behind the game” videos, the Bills players weren’t talking about Kelce killing them.  They were marveling at how damned fast Hill is.  You can’t teach speed, and the only way to counter it is to ‘cheat’ by trying to anticipate routes, shading one direction, etc.  When that fails, you wind up over pursuing, and it’s off to the races.

 

Buffalo has nobody like that on offense, particularly when Brown is out.  McKenzie is fast, but he’s more of a gadget guy.  If I’m Beane, I’m drafting speed.  Outside of Diggs, he’s brought in a lot of slow players.  Beasley, Moss, Singletary, Davis are all slow.  Go get some dudes who can make teams pay for mistakes with 6 points instead of 15 yards.

I think a 4.55 would be a good time for him actually. A 4.45 would likely require a friendly timer. 

[Billl]

3 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Exactly, this is why I really want Kadarius Toney (WR/Florida) if he is there at #30. Toney has the long-term potential to have a Hill-like impact (and he's bigger) plus has the jet sweep/returning ability. Unfortunately for us, he had an unreal Senior Bowl and might not make it to our spot. 

 

 

That would be a terrible pick.  (Because I want him in Kansas City.)

[NewEra]

On 1/26/2021 at 5:37 PM, CommonCents said:

They didn’t take Chubb or Dobbins in the 2nd, If they take Najee in the first that would hurt my brain. 

 

 

Chubb wasn’t available when we picked in rd 2.

5 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Exactly, this is why I really want Kadarius Toney (WR/Florida) if he is there at #30. Toney has the long-term potential to have a Hill-like impact (and he's bigger) plus has the jet sweep/returning ability. Unfortunately for us, he had an unreal Senior Bowl and might not make it to our spot. 

 

 

We can dream though can’t we?  He’s ideal for our team 💯 

[Figster]

24 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I see alot of responses where Bills fans are terrified of losing that passing edge that Josh brings. Bringing on a better more dynamic running back like Najee doesn't mean Daboll is going to scrub the pass attack.  Right now Josh is like 90% of our offense. Having Josh design run as much as he does is stupid and dangerous. He gets hurt the seasons over. You saw how KC easily shut down our passing game by dropping 7. They ignored and basically laughed at our run game. Drafting Najee changes that instantly. We'll still probably throw 70% of the time but now teams will have to gameplan for both. Elway need Terrell and Aikman needed Emmett. Just like we don't even sniff 1 SB without Thurman......

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/another-2021-mock-draft-dynamic-190329334.html

 

Another Mock has Buffalo in the Najee Harris sweepstakes.

[TheBeaneBandit]

On 1/26/2021 at 8:35 PM, DrDare said:

I have a 1st round grade on Najee and he is easily the best RB in the draft

I agree. I also believe he'll be way more durable than the Clemson RB.

[Old Coot]

The link to the Cover 1 video that I posted does an excellent job of analyzing the BIlls' run game.  While they recognize Singletary's limitations they put most of the blame on the OL.  Last year (when the run game was better) they used mostly a gap run game.  This year it was mostly zone blocking because the line made too many error in the more complex gap blocking scheme.  This was partly a talent issue and partly the result of injuries that forced a shuffling of the line.

 

You can't have a good running game if the blocking isn't there.  Most of the great runners (Thurman, etc) ran behind good O lines.  Derrick Henry runs over people but even he would not have the success he's had if his OL had not been blocking for him.

 

A question about Harris: How good is he at protecting the QB?  Blitz pickup is pretty complex with the way D's disguise their blitzes and with our passing offense you need a back that can block for the QB.

[njbuff]

The third back being discussed right now might be the best of them all..........

 

Javonte Williams of NC.

 

He is a natural all around RB with power, wiggle and capable of breaking long runs.

 

If the Bills don't go the vet route, I bet it is going to be this Williams kid or Gainwell in the the 2nd or 3rd round as of now.

 

But it is still VERY EARLY in the process.

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, njbuff said:

The third back being discussed right now might be the best of them all..........

 

Javonte Williams of NC.

 

He is a natural all around RB with power, wiggle and capable of breaking long runs.

 

If the Bills don't go the vet route, I bet it is going to be this Williams kid or Gainwell in the the 2nd or 3rd round as of now.

 

But it is still VERY EARLY in the process.

He could be for sure.  

[Billl]

If Beane is going to take a RB, it should be in the first round.  Normally I’m against taking them high, but if he’s going to try for a third straight year then he needs to stop screwing around and take the top guy.  You can’t keep wasting early picks on failed RBs when that’s literally the easiest position to find.  Go get the top one in the draft or just say screw it and bring in a dozen UDFAs.  
 

Adequate RBs grow on trees.  Fournette and Bell were outright released early in the season.  Now they’re in the Super Bowl.  There’s no excuse for not having someone capable even if you never draft any.

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, njbuff said:

The third back being discussed right now might be the best of them all..........

 

Javonte Williams of NC.

 

He is a natural all around RB with power, wiggle and capable of breaking long runs.

 

If the Bills don't go the vet route, I bet it is going to be this Williams kid or Gainwell in the the 2nd or 3rd round as of now.

 

But it is still VERY EARLY in the process.

 

I like both the NC backs. I think Michael Carter is generally being a little overlooked. He has some juice too.

[NewEra]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I like both the NC backs. I think Michael Carter is generally being a little overlooked. He has some juice too.

Agreed. As I don’t think the top 3 backs will make it to us in rd 2, I think Carter could get a look in rd 2.  Can’t see him lasting til rd 3. He’s a great fit for us

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

It’s incredible to think fir 25 years all the Bills could find were good RBs....now we have everything but lol 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

If he doesn’t possess breakaway speed then I wouldn’t spend a top pick on him.
We need a little Al Davis mentality with this draft and off season in that increasing speed on both sides of the ball is a necessity to overcome the KC hump.

Better use of the player personnel in big spots however is still required to make the whole thing work- I.e getting your fast guys like McKenzie on the field instead of hobbled WR’s in the AFC championship. McKenzie just felt very under utilized to me throughout the entire post season.

[B-Man]

22 hours ago, njbuff said:

The third back being discussed right now might be the best of them all..........

 

Javonte Williams of NC.

 

He is a natural all around RB with power, wiggle and capable of breaking long runs.

 

If the Bills don't go the vet route, I bet it is going to be this Williams kid or Gainwell in the the 2nd or 3rd round as of now.

 

But it is still VERY EARLY in the process.

 

 

And,

 

We need a few more Williams, we are running short.

 

😎

[LABILLBACKER]

27 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

If he doesn’t possess breakaway speed then I wouldn’t spend a top pick on him.
We need a little Al Davis mentality with this draft and off season in that increasing speed on both sides of the ball is a necessity to overcome the KC hump.

Better use of the player personnel in big spots however is still required to make the whole thing work- I.e getting your fast guys like McKenzie on the field instead of hobbled WR’s in the AFC championship. McKenzie just felt very under utilized to me throughout the entire post season.

McKenzie and Yeldon were grossly underutilized all season. Our 2 headed rbs were too slow to creep through those little gaps. We desperately need an elite RB. Maybe Najee can someday be that guy?

[Tipster19]

On 1/26/2021 at 5:12 PM, Pirate Angel said:

How far do all you draft gurus think this guy will fall?? What moves would it take to draft him. Damn he would look nice in a Bill's uni... 

 

I think that this is a position that could fall late in this draft due to the release of good expensive players this year because of the salary cap reduction. Normally positions would have been filled but now extra needs have been created. Since the RB position has been devalued the last umpteen years this is a position that realistically could slide. Hypothetically if this were to happen I would think that Singletary could get bumped off this roster in one way or another. 
 

Buffalo is a team that still has needs but none of them are urgent so BPA should be the thought process here. In years past Baltimore’s former GM Ozzie Newsome was a draft guru because he stuck to this strategy and that was drafting BPA. 

[LABILLBACKER]

On 2/7/2021 at 1:37 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

It’s incredible to think fir 25 years all the Bills could find were good RBs....now we have everything but lol 

The Bills have been looking for a good TE for 60 years.