MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1991's AFC Championship W over Elway's squad remains a fond memory. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) I'd say this is more of "we don't want to publicly fire John Elway." Edited January 4, 2021 by Warcodered 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He has a job for life...he should back away from the personnel side though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I'd say this is more of we don't want to publicly fire John Elway. Yes so Promote the failure. hence Failing Up Edited January 4, 2021 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I'd say this is more of "we don't want to publicly fire John Elway." This is 100% correct, and I get it. Denver really should have made this move first and then done a complete tear down. The coach and the QB are both bad fits and really need to be replaced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yes so Promote the failure. hence Failing Up He’s getting promoted, but it also sounds like he’s relinquishing some decision making on football matters to this new GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, thenorthremembers said: This is 100% correct, and I get it. Denver really should have made this move first and then done a complete tear down. The coach and the QB are both bad fits and really need to be replaced. But the wishy washy ownership Promotes the guy that has failed year after year at Coach and QB? I am fine with it but this shows the problem in the league. What has Elway done to deserve a Promotion? Just now, JoPoy88 said: He’s getting promoted, but it also sounds like he’s relinquishing some decision making on football matters to this new GM. Yeah so he failed up. He gets promoted and gains MORE power in the process. Heck he is the defacto owner at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah so he failed up. He gets promoted and gains MORE power in the process. Heck he is the defacto owner at this point. I don't agree with this, he basically got given a fancy title while losing power to a GM. This is Denver firing him in a way to not actually fire their Hall of Fame QB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yes so Promote the failure. hence Failing Up Only if you view the role of having input on your replacement as a promotion. Its like being promoted to CEO Emeritus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I don't agree with this, he basically got given a fancy title while losing power to a GM. This is Denver firing him in a way to not actually fire their Hall of Fame QB. So he fails as GM Gets Promoted Picks the next GM Yeah that would be failing up seen it often in Army 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Only if you view the role of having input on your replacement as a promotion. Its like being promoted to CEO Emeritus. Edited January 4, 2021 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: So he fails as GM Gets Promoted Picks the next GM Yeah that would be failing up seen it often in Army He'll probably have a voice but in the end Joe Ellis will make the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 I am not the only one that sees this for what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So he fails as GM Gets Promoted Picks the next GM Yeah that would be failing up seen it often in Army if you think left and out of the way is actually up, the more power to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He won a SB as the GM. I don’t think that is failing. He is deciding that he wants to take on a different role. Good for him and the ownership. Btw, the ownership has every right to do this. Their team, their money, and it’s a position that other teams currently use like the Falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yep something stinks in Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I am not the only one that sees this for what it is. Because that's how they're spinning it. I mean the only thing this did was have him give up power. In what way does he have more authority now than he did before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: He’s getting promoted, but it also sounds like he’s relinquishing some decision making on football matters to this new GM. True but they are giving him a red stapler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: He won a SB as the GM. I don’t think that is failing. He is deciding that he wants to take on a different role. Good for him and the ownership. Btw, the ownership has every right to do this. Their team, their money, and it’s a position that other teams currently use like the Falcons. Yes, he landed Peyton to secure his SB. Since then... https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/10/denver-broncos-john-elway-graphics-show-terrible-qb-moves-by-gm https://heavy.com/sports/2019/10/former-broncos-teammate-rips-john-elway/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Because that's how they're spinning it. I mean the only thing this did was have him give up power. In what way does he have more authority now than he did before? To be fair they might let him come to the meetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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