Billsfan1972 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. We didn't just make little mistakes, we made major ones. And at the very worst times..... Ughhhh Edited November 16, 2020 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. We didn't just make little mistakes, we made major ones. there were a number of sizable offensive gains that were called back, the ints, missed tackles, etc. this was a good team yesterday that just played bad. i really think the bills can win games in the playoffs...if they can play cleaner football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 48 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Watch other teams that still throw it downfield. It is done. Oops, forgot who I was responding to.😜 That has been MIA of late. They are specifically taking that away from the Bills. You honestly need to go take a class and learn about the game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Shaw66 said: It's not playoff time yet. McDermott is still building his team. But I agree with the fundamental point. Running and stopping the run is pretty fundamental to winning, and those are clearly the Bills weaknesses. As someone said, if they had Morse, and Feliciano, running probably would look better. If Beane had one do over, I'd bet that it would be that he would have found a a big guy to play the 1-tech. Did Beane know Star wasn't going to play this season? Also we were linked to DJ Reader before he went to Cincy. Beanes biggest gaffs in free agency to me were Butler, but thankfully he can be cut next year and over paying Klein and not adding depth to our LBs. Edited November 16, 2020 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Did Beane know Star wasn't going to play this season? Also we were linked to DJ Reader before he went to Cincy. Beanes biggest gaffs in free agency to me were Butler, but thankfully he can be cut next year and over paying Klein and not adding depth to our LBs. No, he didn't know. But he knew he needed a second guy, and I thi k mostly he was thinking Philips would be that guy. He did a lot of work on the D line, but he didn't get a true backup for Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: They are specifically taking that away from the Bills. You honestly need to go take a class and learn about the game of football. And they do this to every team in the NFL. The point is (and probably to much for you to grasp), is others still learn to adapt and the Bills now seem to be very much stymied by the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, Shaw66 said: No, he didn't know. But he knew he needed a second guy, and I thi k mostly he was thinking Philips would be that guy. He did a lot of work on the D line, but he didn't get a true backup for Star. Fair enough but agree I think most thought Harry play up to his rookie level which he hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Shaw66 said: It's not playoff time yet. McDermott is still building his team. But I agree with the fundamental point. Running and stopping the run is pretty fundamental to winning, and those are clearly the Bills weaknesses. As someone said, if they had Morse, and Feliciano, running probably would look better. If Beane had one do over, I'd bet that it would be that he would have found a a big guy to play the 1-tech. There were guys available this season as a 1 tech. Beane just decided to use what he had. Star may not be a Pro Bowler but he sure is vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, teef said: there were a number of sizable offensive gains that were called back, the ints, missed tackles, etc. this was a good team yesterday that just played bad. i really think the bills can win games in the playoffs...if they can play cleaner football. Only if they figure out how to stop the run. Its pretty sad watching Arizona run the same run play over and over and the Bills not being able to stop it. Your coach needs to be better at half time adjustments but I don't see that ever happening as he has never done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Fair enough but agree I think most thought Harry play up to his rookie level which he hasn't. You dont have to defend Beane to me. In his job, he makes a lot of decisions, and I do t expect that he will get them all correct. That's impossible. He just missed on the middle of th D line. I thought Harry would be fine behind Star, and he might have been. But it turned out that without Star, Harry couldn't do what was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, teef said: there were a number of sizable offensive gains that were called back, the ints, missed tackles, etc. this was a good team yesterday that just played bad. i really think the bills can win games in the playoffs...if they can play cleaner football. This team is gonna be BATTLE TESTED by playoff time. Way more so than last season. 7 of their 10 games this year have been against teams that are 6-3 or better. Thats madness.... With the 9-0 steelers and 6-3 fins still on tap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: Bass showed us we now have a reliable kicker. I'll be confident that he'll give us a game winning kick in the playoffs or even the Super Bowl. Bass can score from the 40. Thats a huge advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Only if they figure out how to stop the run. Its pretty sad watching Arizona run the same run play over and over and the Bills not being able to stop it. Your coach needs to be better at half time adjustments but I don't see that ever happening as he has never done it. the third quarter is definitely this teams weakness, but i don't agree with the bolded, or this type of thinking. before the season, there were countless posters that told us josh allen would never improve, and this offense would never regularly score more than 21 points. both have happened. this team is still evolving, and i never discount this team getting better...even this season. 20 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: This team is gonna be BATTLE TESTED by playoff time. Way more so than last season. 7 of their 10 games this year have been against teams that are 6-3 or better. Thats madness.... With the 9-0 steelers and 6-3 fins still on tap. we all said that this team could have the same record as last year, and still be better. when the bills play clean football, i really think they can hang with anyone. 47 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: And they do this to every team in the NFL. The point is (and probably to much for you to grasp), is others still learn to adapt and the Bills now seem to be very much stymied by the changes. you adapt by taking what the other teams give you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: And they do this to every team in the NFL. The point is (and probably to much for you to grasp), is others still learn to adapt and the Bills now seem to be very much stymied by the changes. Do they really? show us the breakdown of long pass plays then. You are just ridiculous. You don't care that they lost yesterday, all you care about is whether they have long pass plays because to you that's exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Do they really? show us the breakdown of long pass plays then. You are just ridiculous. You don't care that they lost yesterday, all you care about is whether they have long pass plays because to you that's exciting. Here you go..... Don't have earlier weeks but we saw plenty of longer passes. WOuldn't expect you to have any stats and as usual just complaining about my posts without any facts. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/type/buffalo-bills/2020/week Edited November 16, 2020 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: You dont have to defend Beane to me. In his job, he makes a lot of decisions, and I do t expect that he will get them all correct. That's impossible. He just missed on the middle of th D line. I thought Harry would be fine behind Star, and he might have been. But it turned out that without Star, Harry couldn't do what was needed. I'm just putting it out there as sometimes people think I'm overly critical, like yesterdays loss I'm much like you as upset but it hasn't made me hate on this team yet in other threads I was critical on Josh but moreso because felt he played bad then hate him as tbh I hated that we lost the game for him after he did bring us back etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, stuvian said: miracles happen and sometimes you're on the wrong end of them I don't like being on the wrong end of a play that will go down as one of the all time greats. On the other hand its hard not to appreciate the significance of the play. What it meant for Arizona and Kyler Murray. The astonished look on some of the Cardinals players was priceless. With a day to let my emotions get back to normal. It was a great play. I think when its talked about the valiant effort from Josh Allen will also be remembered. Two of the NFL's new greats taking it to the wire... Edited November 16, 2020 by Figster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I personally want to see the refs call the game evenly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: I personally want to see the refs call the game evenly How the PI wasn't called on Brown boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. We didn't just make little mistakes, we made major ones. Gunner - I don't get this. What major mistakes? There's a difference between major mistakes, and ordinary mistakes that have large consequences. Penalties are ordinary mistakes, but every once in a while a penalty is a game changer. I thought the the Bills played pretty well, but made some mistakes. Same could be said about Arizona. The two Allen INTs and the fumble probably are major mistakes, but even those are routine events in a football game. The Bills did have one horrible string of penalties, but I don't think that's a major mistake - that's just a lot of penalties coming together. You want the team to play tentatively after they've gotten two penalties in a row. I don't think the Bills lost because of mistakes. They lost because they can't run the ball and they can't stop the run. Those aren't mistakes - that's poor coaching, poor talent, or a combination of both. That's coaches and players presumably doing their best, but their best isn't enough to get the job done. What are the major mistakes you're thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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