YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, H2o said: With them saying they are moving the season back to the Spring it just shows the greed behind it imo. If it was about player safety they wouldn't be trying to make their scholarship athletes have two football seasons within a single calendar year in 2021. Another thing about life ruined for the moment. Covid. It’s just a cover imo for not saying “cancelled”. Barry Alvarez basically said it won’t happen they interviewed urban Meyer on BTN and he said “no chance” Edited August 11, 2020 by YoloinOhio 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s just a cover imo for not saying “cancelled”. Barry Alvarez basically said it won’t happen they interviewed urban Meyer on BTN and he said “no chance” This will allow the "student athletes" concentrate on their studies this semester . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s just a cover imo for not saying “cancelled”. Barry Alvarez basically said it won’t happen they interviewed urban Meyer on BTN and he said “no chance” So will they grant Seniors who are not guaranteed an NFL career another year of eligibility to play next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: So will they grant Seniors who are not guaranteed an NFL career another year of eligibility to play next year? My assumption is they will have a choice to play or retain the year of eligibility, or both depending on what the spring season actually looks like. I don’t think one happens but who the hell knows anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: It would be interesting to see the data that shows they are safer not playing football but attending class, parties, etc vs focused on football/classes. Hahaha.....data. The data in my state changes every day. The % false positives change regularly, I don't even think we have numbers on the recovery rate. If we do they sure don't report them. Only thing I get on the local news is # of cases and # of deaths in big bold letters as soon as you open the website. Somehow bars and restaurants of maybe 50-75 people are the hotbeds of Corona virus spread, but mass gatherings of thousands flys under the radar. Edited August 12, 2020 by RaoulDuke79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s just a cover imo for not saying “cancelled”. Barry Alvarez basically said it won’t happen they interviewed urban Meyer on BTN and he said “no chance” Justin Fields is none too happy https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/big-ten-cancel-justin-fields-ohio-state-buckeyes-reaction-smh/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, H2o said: Justin Fields is none too happy https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/big-ten-cancel-justin-fields-ohio-state-buckeyes-reaction-smh/ Obviously - Heisman dreams out the window unless he wants to play next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, H2o said: Justin Fields is none too happy https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/big-ten-cancel-justin-fields-ohio-state-buckeyes-reaction-smh/ I doubt any of the players are happy about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/12/2020 at 10:33 AM, YoloinOhio said: Obviously - Heisman dreams out the window unless he wants to play next year I could be wrong but imo his Heisman dreams would have to include a terrible injury to Trevor Lawrence. Seriously, nothing against Fields but Lawrence is a freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I could be wrong but imo his Heisman dreams would have to include a terrible injury to Trevor Lawrence. Seriously, nothing against Fields but Lawrence is a freak. Fields was a finalist last year and Lawrence was not... so pretty reasonable for him to have that dream regardless of what anyone else does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Fields was a finalist last year and Lawrence was not... so pretty reasonable for him to have that dream regardless of what anyone else does I see your point but Fields plays against real opponents. Lawrence has a big advantage in that sense. Again, jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/12/2020 at 8:46 AM, H2o said: Justin Fields is none too happy https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/big-ten-cancel-justin-fields-ohio-state-buckeyes-reaction-smh/ Can he still transfer? LSU or Florida State would be good fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Can he still transfer? LSU or Florida State would be good fits. He'd have to sit again for a year I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: I see your point but Fields plays against real opponents. Lawrence has a big advantage in that sense. Again, jmo. I think playing in big games is an advantage in the Heisman race. They always talk about the “Heisman moment” and it’s usually a huge play against a good opponent in prime time especially if it’s in November right before the vote. The Heisman voters don’t watch all the games. For example Burrow won the Heisman vs Bama last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Can he still transfer? LSU or Florida State would be good fits. He could but I think he’s in process of hiring an agent. I don’t think it makes sense for a player like him to transfer this late. There is only 5 weeks until these other conferences start playing and he would need to get his immediate eligibility waiver, enroll in school, learn the offense, etc. And he’s not going anywhere where he wouldn’t start so that’s a lot to learn in a matter of weeks. I could see a kid who has already graduated, needs more film for the nfl, and plays DE like a Jonathan Cooper try to transfer somewhere for the year because he wouldn’t have to wait for eligibility and could just jump into a rotation. Not to mention the biggest elephant in the room, the pessimism that any of these schools will ultimately play in the fall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, H2o said: He'd have to sit again for a year I believe He could apply for a waiver - I’m hearing the ncaa isn’t keen to approve them though in this circumstance. I think a very interesting one to watch is Trey Lance from North Dakota st. They just announced today they won’t play In fall. He has limited experience vs FCS, but Is considered a 1st round lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He could but I think he’s in process of hiring an agent. I don’t think it makes sense for a player like him to transfer this late. There is only 5 weeks until these other conferences start playing and he would need to get his immediate eligibility waiver, enroll in school, learn the offense, etc. And he’s not going anywhere where he wouldn’t start so that’s a lot to learn in a matter of weeks. I could see a kid who has already graduated, needs more film for the nfl, and plays DE like a Jonathan Cooper try to transfer somewhere for the year because he wouldn’t have to wait for eligibility and could just jump into a rotation. Not to mention the biggest elephant in the room, the pessimism that any of these schools will ultimately play in the fall He's pry better off just preparing for the NFL combine as he's pry a top five pick. SportsLine actually has odds on whether he's played his final down in college. Yes (-240) No (+180) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: He's pry better off just preparing for the NFL combine as he's pry a top five pick. SportsLine actually has odds on whether he's played his final down in college. Yes (-240) No (+180) Because he is projected to go so high, he should just start preparing for the league. You never know what could happen if you play in spring (if they actually do). I feel he could use more development in an ideal world, which we clearly do not have - but I always say If you are slated to be a 1st round pick ... go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Because he is projected to go so high, he should just start preparing for the league. You never know what could happen if you play in spring (if they actually do). I feel he could use more development in an ideal world, which we clearly do not have - but I always say If you are slated to be a 1st round pick ... go. Trevor Lawrence is ballsy for not opting out considering he's a shoe in as the #1 pick next year. If it was me I'd be self quarantining until I get that first contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I get the need for a liability waiver, but my view is that it shouldn’t cover gross negligence or intentional conduct. If it turns out the B1G or any school is hiding information that should be disclosed, then they should have to face the consequences. Ordinary assumed risk should be waived though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 What an absolute circus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Willyville Guy said: I get the need for a liability waiver, but my view is that it shouldn’t cover gross negligence or intentional conduct. If it turns out the B1G or any school is hiding information that should be disclosed, then they should have to face the consequences. Ordinary assumed risk should be waived though. So how do you prove the source? Curious what some of the lawyers think of waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: So how do you prove the source? Curious what some of the lawyers think of waivers. I would think just like in any lawsuit. If an athlete can allege plausible facts in good faith to establish that a school or league acted in a grossly negligent or intentional manner that caused harm, then he should have the opportunity to take discovery (obtain documents, take depositions) to find out exactly what happened. If after discovery the athlete can prove his claim, he should be able to seek a judgment and compensation. Again, my view is that this should be limited to egregious circumstances that truly shock the conscience. I’m struggling to even come up with a hypothetical. Ordinary claims by people who decide to play and get sick should be waived—even if the school or league could have and should have done more—and it seems like the athletes who want to play are willing to do that. That said, seems to me that the athletes are entitled to know how the school/league plans to protect them before they sign a waiver. The more disclosure the better. Please excuse my scattered lawyer thoughts....you asked for them! Edited August 18, 2020 by Willyville Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) Ohio state and Iowa parents are organizing a peaceful protest at B1G HQ in Chicago. Shaun wades Dad is flying in from Florida. Unbelievable it has come to this! Kevin Warren from the school of how to completely bungle a decision - we don’t know if it was the right decision yet but we sure as hell know it wasn’t the right way to communicate it. Edited August 18, 2020 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 This situation is blowing up in their faces completely. I figured there would be some resistance to the idea of trying to move the season around, but I didn't expect this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, H2o said: This situation is blowing up in their faces completely. I figured there would be some resistance to the idea of trying to move the season around, but I didn't expect this. If their messaging had been even close to decent, or anything at all was communicated around this, they wouldn’t be experiencing this PR nightmare but Warren is in a bunker somewhere. He should be fired simply for being incompetent at communication. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: If their messaging had been even close to decent, or anything at all was communicated around this, they wouldn’t be experiencing this PR nightmare but Warren is in a bunker somewhere. He should be fired simply for being incompetent at communication. I thought it was just OSU that has the worst PR imaginable in a crisis. Guess it's a league-wide thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Go Dawgs? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Punch it in, Donny! ? I wish this was all just a bad dream. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Punch it in, Donny! ? I wish this was all just a bad dream. Where the hell am I right now. Oh that’s right I’m in a swing state in an election year ? Edited September 1, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/20/2020 at 6:09 AM, YoloinOhio said: Go Dawgs? ? Hook 'Em Horns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Mark Vader said: Hook 'Em Horns? At least they have sweet unis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Punch it in, Donny! ? I wish this was all just a bad dream. Well, if you want to be re-elected and you want to win those Great Lakes States.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: At least they have sweet unis Yes, they do. They are one of the few teams that can pull off the all-white look, and I love that their helmet logo has remain unchanged. Michigan & Texas play each other in 2024 at Austin. That would be a fun game to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Make the Big 10 Great Again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 “From source: If conference can pass updated safety measures and procedures, Big Ten targeting Oct. 10 to start football season.” - Dan Patrick — Dan Patrick Show (@dpshow) September 1, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Willyville Guy said: Punch it in, Donny! ? I wish this was all just a bad dream. Three months later. I meant at their own one yard line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Would be nice to get to see Michigan/Ohio St after all. There's also Minnesota/Wisconsin who hasn't missed a game since 1906: http://www.winsipedia.com/games/wisconsin/vs/minnesota 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Three months later. I meant at their own one yard line. I don't care if it's the sidelines, give me my ***** Big 10 football!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I don't care if it's the sidelines, give me my ***** Big 10 football!!! Big 10, SEC, all of it. CFB = Saturday's in the fall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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