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On 12/11/2020 at 8:07 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Cool.  My offer still stands—you said that I was “excusing acts of violence on their part”.  What acts of violence are you speaking of?  Who did what?  What specifically did I post that brought you to the conclusion that I excused the specific acts of violence you’re about to reveal to me?

 

You tell me.  Transy wrote "The violence these people are talking about right now are solely for the sake of overturning the very foundation of our country: free and fair elections." and you replied "Which they see as neither fair..nor free. "

 

What violence did you think was being talked about.  And do think the election was neither fair nor free?

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The conflict with Iran begins...one of trumps pillars for a coup.

 

Attack and disgrace Biden as potential treasonist, coming in late Dec

Take bows for vaccine...coming soon

Start a conflict that Biden cannot be trusted to deal with. The reteric has begun with Iran

Postpone Jan 20 until investigations are complete. The congressional approval in early Jan will not happen

Control Supreme court...done

Control CIA and FBI...done

Control justice, ( can he trust Barr or must he go)...done or change coming

Stop electoral college in Congress until steps for takeover can begin in January...coming up

Keep support in Congress...

 

It is happening people.....Stay focussed, 

 

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4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

The conflict with Iran begins...one of trumps pillars for a coup.

 

Attack and disgrace Biden as potential treasonist, coming in late Dec

Take bows for vaccine...coming soon

Start a conflict that Biden cannot be trusted to deal with. The reteric has begun with Iran

Postpone Jan 20 until investigations are complete. The congressional approval in early Jan will not happen

Control Supreme court...done

Control CIA and FBI...done

Control justice, ( can he trust Barr or must he go)...done or change coming

Stop electoral college in Congress until steps for takeover can begin in January...coming up

Keep support in Congress...

 

It is happening people.....Stay focussed, 

 

 

You are being overly melodramatic,  Bill.  Nobody in the federal law enforcement is going to break the law for Donald Trump, starting with AG Bill Barr.  Why do you think  The Wannabe Dictator in Chief is so po'd with him?   Barr refused to apprise Trump of the federal investigation into Hunter Biden, and he refused to manufacture evidence of massive voter fraud when there wasn't any.  The DOJ will not manufacture evidence and no federal judge will issue an arrest warrant without evidence. 

 

There is absolutely no mechanism to postpone the inauguration.  The US has held presidential elections and inaugurations during both the Civil War and World War II.   During the pandemic, the US had the highest voter turnout rate in more than a generation, and every single attempt by Trumplicans to steal the election through legal channels have been thwarted by local and state officials' refusals to break the law for Trump and Trump's own appointees to federal benches from district courts to the SCOTUS.

 

On January 20, 2021 at approximately 3 minutes after noon, Donald J Trump will cease to be POTUS.  If Trump sends his cultists out into the streets of Washington, so what?  The Capital Police have decades of experience in managing far larger protests than the Trumplicans will be able to muster on January 20.  If Trump refuses to physically vacate the WH, the Secret Service will escort him out and turn him over to the Capital Police as a trespasser. 

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7 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

You are being overly melodramatic,  Bill.  Nobody in the federal law enforcement is going to break the law for Donald Trump, starting with AG Bill Barr.  Why do you think  The Wannabe Dictator in Chief is so po'd with him?   Barr refused to apprise Trump of the federal investigation into Hunter Biden, and he refused to manufacture evidence of massive voter fraud when there wasn't any.  The DOJ will not manufacture evidence and no federal judge will issue an arrest warrant without evidence. 

 

There is absolutely no mechanism to postpone the inauguration.  The US has held presidential elections and inaugurations during both the Civil War and World War II.   During the pandemic, the US had the highest voter turnout rate in more than a generation, and every single attempt by Trumplicans to steal the election through legal channels have been thwarted by local and state officials' refusals to break the law for Trump and Trump's own appointees to federal benches from district courts to the SCOTUS.

 

On January 20, 2021 at approximately 3 minutes after noon, Donald J Trump will cease to be POTUS.  If Trump sends his cultists out into the streets of Washington, so what?  The Capital Police have decades of experience in managing far larger protests than the Trumplicans will be able to muster on January 20.  If Trump refuses to physically vacate the WH, the Secret Service will escort him out and turn him over to the Capital Police as a trespasser. 

Truly dramatic I am...sincerely concerned I am.

The republicans see Dems as the evil socialists, destroying the American dream. They have followed the biggest liar, divisive guy in history of USA.

If he preaches that Biden is unfit, Jan 20th will be in jeopardy. Jan 6th is day I believe Congress votes to accept election results. That is the biggest day in trumps life, between now and then this whole diversion of Texas etc will not be necessary. I hope my dramatic thought are wrong.....but

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We had a fair and free election and we have a three year old trying to now say our entire election process is wrong.  And let's recall, he was claiming this before votes were even cast to protect himself against having to admit his own failure.

 

This has potential devastating consequences for the future.  There is an article on Politico's web site, indicating there are Republicans that lost elections by dozens of percentage points that refuse to concede, and instead are talking about irregularities and machine problems and all this crap.  If our electoral system is destroyed, there goes the country.  And that cannot be allowed to stand.

 

We need to save the country at this point.  If he refuses to leave, then arrest him and charge him with sedition.  If he actively tries to foment rebellion (as in get people like The Proud Boys) to riot) then charge him with treason.  And if supporters riot, take them into custody and charge them.  If Congressmen or women support this, don't swear them in as they are in violation of the Constitution and as such would not be faithful to their oath.  

 

And I would say the same thing if it were a Democrat acting this way.  We have passed the point of being ridiculous now.  We are letting the three year old dictator wanna be to foment insurrection and it must be stopped. 

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Thousands of maskless rallygoers who refuse to accept the results of the election turned downtown Washington into a falsehood-filled spectacle Saturday, two days before the electoral college will make the president’s loss official.

 

In smaller numbers than their gathering last month, they roamed from the Capitol to the Mall and back again, seeking inspiration from speakers who railed against the Supreme Court, Fox News and President-elect Joe Biden. The crowds cheered for recently pardoned former national security adviser Michael Flynn, marched with conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and stood in awe of a flyover from what appeared to be Marine One.

But at night, the scene became violent. At least four people were stabbed near Harry’s Bar at 11th and F streets NW, a gathering point for the Proud Boys, a male-chauvinist organization with ties to white nationalism.

The victims were hospitalized and suffered possibly life-threatening injuries, D.C. fire spokesman Doug Buchanan said. It was not immediately clear with which groups the attackers or the injured might have been affiliated.

The violence escalated after an evening of faceoffs with counterprotesters that took place near Harry’s, Black Lives Matter Plaza, Franklin Square, and other spots around downtown.

At first, officers in riot gear successfully kept the two sides apart, even as the groups splintered and roamed. In helmets and bulletproof vests, Proud Boys marched through downtown in militarylike rows, shouting “move out” and “1776!” They became increasingly angry as they wove through streets and alleys, only to find police continuously blocking their course with lines of bikes.

But before long, the agitators determined to find troublewere successful — and posturing quickly turned into punching, kicking and wrestling.

Again and again, officers swarmed, pulling the instigators apart, firing chemical irritants and forming lines between the sides. At Harry’s Bar, an ambulance arrived, but the extent of injuries was unknown.

Each time a fight was de-escalated, another soon began in a different part of town.

D.C. Police Chief Peter Newsham made a brief appearance in the chaos, telling protesters: “We’re doing the best we can.”

In an interview, Newsham said police units were deployed across downtown to keep the groups apart. He said smaller segments of people who splintered from larger gatherings seemed “intent on conflict.”

D.C. police said that as of 9 p.m., 23 people were arrested Saturday, including 10 who were charged with misdemeanor assaults, six with assaulting police officers and four with rioting. Police said one person had an illegal Taser.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trump-dc-rally-maga/2020/12/11/8b5af818-3bdb-11eb-bc68-96af0daae728_story.html

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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

We had a fair and free election and we have a three year old trying to now say our entire election process is wrong.  And let's recall, he was claiming this before votes were even cast to protect himself against having to admit his own failure.

 

This has potential devastating consequences for the future.  There is an article on Politico's web site, indicating there are Republicans that lost elections by dozens of percentage points that refuse to concede, and instead are talking about irregularities and machine problems and all this crap.  If our electoral system is destroyed, there goes the country.  And that cannot be allowed to stand.

 

We need to save the country at this point.  If he refuses to leave, then arrest him and charge him with sedition.  If he actively tries to foment rebellion (as in get people like The Proud Boys) to riot) then charge him with treason.  And if supporters riot, take them into custody and charge them.  If Congressmen or women support this, don't swear them in as they are in violation of the Constitution and as such would not be faithful to their oath.  

 

And I would say the same thing if it were a Democrat acting this way.  We have passed the point of being ridiculous now.  We are letting the three year old dictator wanna be to foment insurrection and it must be stopped. 


We have a lot people conspicuous in their silence too. Leaders in the R party who are taking the limp  stance offered by Lehnard that they did not take in 2016, and despite 57 (?) court losses, the sham press conferences, and the appeal to Twitter evidence.
 

It’s sad. 

 

If our democracy dies at the hands of the Trumpists, what a hero to follow into the depths. 

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On 12/12/2020 at 10:19 AM, Kemp said:

 

In the end he'll leave because he doesn't want images of himself being led away in handcuffs, but only after he resigns and gets a pardon from President Pence.

There's a chance he tries to pardon himself. I hope he does because that might set off a chain of reactions that would be fun to watch.

I don't care that he's played a role in dismantling the Republican Party by exposing them as seditionists, but the damage to the country I do mind.

He would rather destroy America than admit he lost. He is without question the single worst human being to ever hold office in the United States.

The scariest part is that he has brought to light just how many people are some combination of evil and stupid.

 

I think Trump is gripping to power because he knows there are indictments waiting for him and his children at the Southern District of NY for tax, wire and mail fraud. 

 

He's a wounded animal, and I wouldn't rule out him trying to incite actual violence if he thinks it will help him maintain power and avoid jail. 

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Dec 28 the rumors about Biden and CCP will begin. By early Jan many open questions will be talked about.

The Iran situation will explode. 

Jan 6th will become a battle ground, Pence is prepared...the coup is planned.

 

Hope I am wrong...but stars are aligning.

 

Either that or someone has to throw a bucket of water on him so he will melt like the wicked witch.

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33 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Dec 28 the rumors about Biden and CCP will begin. By early Jan many open questions will be talked about.

The Iran situation will explode. 

Jan 6th will become a battle ground, Pence is prepared...the coup is planned.

 

Hope I am wrong...but stars are aligning.

 

Either that or someone has to throw a bucket of water on him so he will melt like the wicked witch.


You sound like a Q ding ding making predictions based on nothing that don’t come to pass but just make another one for two weeks from now. Stop. 

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10 hours ago, shoshin said:


You sound like a Q ding ding making predictions based on nothing that don’t come to pass but just make another one for two weeks from now. Stop. 

Just sayin. This guy has a plan, do not be comfortable, he wants to be King, he has lied his way into the hearts of 70,000,000 citizens, he hates democracy and uses the press and social media better than anyone. 

Sorry if you don't want to hear it, but much of the world outside of US sees it that way.

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9 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Just sayin. This guy has a plan, do not be comfortable, he wants to be King, he has lied his way into the hearts of 70,000,000 citizens, he hates democracy and uses the press and social media better than anyone. 

Sorry if you don't want to hear it, but much of the world outside of US sees it that way.

And he despises every single one of those 70 million voters.

 

He's a sociopath:

Lacks remorse.

Is charming to many.

Intelligent

Liar

Manipulative 

Narcissistic 

No long relationships: Fires people

Spontaneous 

Lacks love/fake love

Highly Competitive 

 

What of those 10 sociopath traits doesn't Trump exhibit?  Don't be fooled, he's very intelligent.

 

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56 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Just sayin. This guy has a plan, do not be comfortable, he wants to be King, he has lied his way into the hearts of 70,000,000 citizens, he hates democracy and uses the press and social media better than anyone. 

Sorry if you don't want to hear it, but much of the world outside of US sees it that way.

 

You sound just like the Q-army. You get that right? 

 

On January 21, Biden will be president. Trump's supporters are the ones I worry about since many of them do not accept democracy any more. 

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