GOP can’t win elections without cheating

[Tiberius]

On 3/2/2021 at 12:13 PM, Unforgiven said:

Fraud is fraud. If it happened it needs to be fixed across the board.

And since it’s not a real problem, don’t “fix” it. Using the big lie to suppress voting is garbage 

[Unforgiven]

corrupt old hag, term limits

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

corrupt old hag, term limits

i applaud GS for calling out hypocrisy. He’s one of the better journalists out there. NP is such a corrupt pos. $140 million dollar PNW ‘salt of the earth’ 😉 elite.

 

searched AP and was unable to find this story.

Edited March 15, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Backintheday544]

12 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

corrupt old hag, term limits

So you’re saying now that Trumps attempts were trying to steal an election? And you’re mad at both parties for trying to steal an election, albeit the President has a bit more power than the IA02.

[BillStime]

I thought Republicans cared about waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars?  Unless, they are talking about Benghazi and "voter fraud"

 

 

@B-Man - please log this report at billsfans.  You know where.

 

[Unforgiven]

House Administration Committee votes to consider challenge to results in Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District

https://www.thecentersquare.com/iowa/house-administration-committee-votes-to-consider-challenge-to-results-in-iowa-s-2nd-congressional-district/article_3ae3ce34-85ad-11eb-b50d-9ff5a288b475.html

 

NOW it's ok to challenge an election?

 Seems BASELESS to me.

[Unforgiven]

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2021/03/16/mi-court-michigan-secretary-of-states-absentee-ballot-order-broke-law-vindicating-trump-claim/

 

MI Court: Michigan Secretary of State’s Absentee Ballot Order Broke Law, Vindicating Trump Claim

 

damn republicans.

[SoCal Deek]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

I thought Republicans cared about waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars?  Unless, they are talking about Benghazi and "voter fraud"

 

 

@B-Man - please log this report at billsfans.  You know where.

 

And in your screwed up mind it was OK to waste millions on a fake Russia story....but it was a waste of money to hold actual oversight hearings when we had an actual DEAD AMBASSADOR?   Sheeesh man! 

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

And in your screwed up mind it was OK to waste millions on a fake Russia story....but it was a waste of money to hold actual oversight hearings when we had an actual DEAD AMBASSADOR?   Sheeesh man! 

We haven’t seen the unredacted Mueller Report. 
 

 

And you can go google Kevin McCarthy admitting the Benghazi investigation was purely political. 
 

 

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

And you can go google Kevin McCarthy admitting the Benghazi investigation was purely political. 
 

 

Well then McCarthy is a douche. The ambassador is still dead! 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

26 minutes ago, BillStime said:

We haven’t seen the unredacted Mueller Report. 
 

 

And you can go google Kevin McCarthy admitting the Benghazi investigation was purely political. 
 

 

Name an investigation ever that was not political... 

[Tiberius]

Opinion by 

Jennifer Rubin

Columnist

March 18, 2021 at 7:45 a.m. EDT

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If not for the election of Sens. Raphael G. Warnock and Jon Ossoff in Georgia, there would be no Democratic majority in the Senate and likely no covid-19 relief plan (certainly not one amounting to $1.9 trillion). Some, if not many, of President Biden’s nominees would also have been rejected.

We saw during the previous two administrations that when Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is majority leader, a Democratic president may not get an up-or-down vote on a Supreme Court nominee. Bipartisan bills passed by the House — on everything from drug prices to voting reform to protection for “dreamers” — die on his desk. (McConnell’s threat to resort to “scorched earth” tactics if Democrats junk the filibuster might carry more weight if he had not already adopted a scorched-earth approach regardless of which party runs the Senate.)

But Warnock, specifically, does more than add a 50th vote in the Senate for Democrats. He adds moral and intellectual heft to the body. During his maiden speech on the Senate floor on Wednesday, he delivered a devastating indictment of Republican efforts to restrict African Americans’ access to the ballot.

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Using the cadence and energy honed as a pastor, he recalled that “just a few months after [Rep. John Lewis’s] death, there are those in the Georgia legislature, some who even dare to praise his name, that are now trying to get rid of Sunday ‘souls to the polls,’ making it a crime for people who pray together to get on a bus together in order to vote together.” He continued, “Make no mistake, this is democracy in reverse. Rather than voters being able to pick the politicians, the politicians are trying to cherry-pick their voters. I say this cannot stand.”

Warnock was unsparing in his description of “Jim Crow in new clothes,” which amounts to “a massive and unabashed assault on voting rights and voter access unlike anything we have seen since the Jim Crow era.” He decried that the win-at-any-cost mentality puts “craven lust for power” ahead of democracy.

The senator made clear that the filibuster, a tool for the minority to thwart the majority, cannot be used to damage fundamental rights such as voting. “It is a contradiction to say we must protect minority rights in the Senate, while refusing to protect minority rights in the society,” he said. “Colleagues, no Senate rule should overrule the integrity of our democracy, and we must find a way to pass voting rights whether we get rid of the filibuster or not.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/18/warnock-shows-just-how-important-one-election-can-be/

On 3/16/2021 at 5:05 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Name an investigation ever that was not political... 

That's like a Trump supporter saying all politicians lie 

[Tommy Callahan]

Most of the world requries ID to vote. only allows mail in voting for absontee reasons. Third party (super pac) ballot harvesting is illigal in most of the world, should be here as well.  all to protect election integrity.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Opinion by 

Jennifer Rubin

Columnist

March 18, 2021 at 7:45 a.m. EDT

Add to list

If not for the election of Sens. Raphael G. Warnock and Jon Ossoff in Georgia, there would be no Democratic majority in the Senate and likely no covid-19 relief plan (certainly not one amounting to $1.9 trillion). Some, if not many, of President Biden’s nominees would also have been rejected.

We saw during the previous two administrations that when Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is majority leader, a Democratic president may not get an up-or-down vote on a Supreme Court nominee. Bipartisan bills passed by the House — on everything from drug prices to voting reform to protection for “dreamers” — die on his desk. (McConnell’s threat to resort to “scorched earth” tactics if Democrats junk the filibuster might carry more weight if he had not already adopted a scorched-earth approach regardless of which party runs the Senate.)

But Warnock, specifically, does more than add a 50th vote in the Senate for Democrats. He adds moral and intellectual heft to the body. During his maiden speech on the Senate floor on Wednesday, he delivered a devastating indictment of Republican efforts to restrict African Americans’ access to the ballot.

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Using the cadence and energy honed as a pastor, he recalled that “just a few months after [Rep. John Lewis’s] death, there are those in the Georgia legislature, some who even dare to praise his name, that are now trying to get rid of Sunday ‘souls to the polls,’ making it a crime for people who pray together to get on a bus together in order to vote together.” He continued, “Make no mistake, this is democracy in reverse. Rather than voters being able to pick the politicians, the politicians are trying to cherry-pick their voters. I say this cannot stand.”

Warnock was unsparing in his description of “Jim Crow in new clothes,” which amounts to “a massive and unabashed assault on voting rights and voter access unlike anything we have seen since the Jim Crow era.” He decried that the win-at-any-cost mentality puts “craven lust for power” ahead of democracy.

The senator made clear that the filibuster, a tool for the minority to thwart the majority, cannot be used to damage fundamental rights such as voting. “It is a contradiction to say we must protect minority rights in the Senate, while refusing to protect minority rights in the society,” he said. “Colleagues, no Senate rule should overrule the integrity of our democracy, and we must find a way to pass voting rights whether we get rid of the filibuster or not.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/18/warnock-shows-just-how-important-one-election-can-be/

That's like a Trump supporter saying all politicians lie 

oh wow... poor one party scared of evil other party op-Ed. Earth shattering. Be scared party x! Party y is coming for your: _________ (insert mind control scare tactic here) 

 

voting rights

gun rights

reproductive rights 

Employment rights 

Citizen rights 

education rights 

Marriage rights  

religious rights

speech rights 

 

scare! fear! cower!
 

Don’t worry tibs no one is stealing your welfare check, the establishment needs your dependence and fear. And it’s pretty telling that your saviors are equating ‘please bring your ID’ to ‘Jim Crow’. They’ve got you right where they want you... hook, line and sinker. 
 

Republicans ‘scorched earth’ ? 😂 . McConnell is an impotent dead man walking just like his whole party.  They can’t win anything because are too dumb to send buses to homeless shelters and elderly homes to harvest votes like their opposition so they play right into their hands trying to restrict the behavior instead. 
 

So one side has all three houses and they are pissing all over divided government which is the only sliver of anything resembling democracy that remains. 
 

Teach your kids to be fluent in Chinese so they can be part of the new world order. The American experiment is dying from two massive parasites. 

[B-Man]

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I’m probably late to this realization but is it common knowledge Mark Zuckerberg donated over $400 million dollars to a handful of “election fairness” independent organizations who in turn  took grant applications from electoral districts to determine who would get the funds? 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Geeze Iowa. That’s a double standard. 

[B-Man]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/voters-demand-photo-id-reject-weak-dem-substitute

 

 

 

EVERYONE WANTS IT BUT THE RULING CLASS,      WHICH TELLS YOU SOMETHING: 

 

Voters demand photo ID and reject weak Democratic substitute.

 

An overwhelming majority of people, including Democrats, back a photo identification requirement to vote, a repudiation of Democratic legislation that would let people simply swear they are whom they say they are.

 

As the Senate version, S.B. 1, of the House-approved For the People Act, H.R. 1, was introduced today, a new Rasmussen Reports survey found that 75% of people support photo ID laws, such as those requiring voters to present a valid driver’s license or other government-issued ID to receive a ballot.

 

It has strong support among all partisans, the poll analysis reported.

 

“Eighty-nine percent (89%) of Republicans support voter ID requirements, as do 60% of Democrats and 77% of voters not affiliated with either major party,” it said.

 

 

 

 

 

And yet. . .

 

 

 

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/voters-demand-photo-id-reject-weak-dem-substitute

 

 

 

EVERYONE WANTS IT BUT THE RULING CLASS,      WHICH TELLS YOU SOMETHING: 

 

Voters demand photo ID and reject weak Democratic substitute.

 

An overwhelming majority of people, including Democrats, back a photo identification requirement to vote, a repudiation of Democratic legislation that would let people simply swear they are whom they say they are.

 

As the Senate version, S.B. 1, of the House-approved For the People Act, H.R. 1, was introduced today, a new Rasmussen Reports survey found that 75% of people support photo ID laws, such as those requiring voters to present a valid driver’s license or other government-issued ID to receive a ballot.

 

It has strong support among all partisans, the poll analysis reported.

 

“Eighty-nine percent (89%) of Republicans support voter ID requirements, as do 60% of Democrats and 77% of voters not affiliated with either major party,” it said.

 

 

 

 

 

And yet. . .

 

 

 

 

 

You really didn’t know Fox News is opposed to the Democratic Party and spins manipulates editorializes everything accordingly? 

 

cc: @Over 29 years of fanhood

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

You really didn’t know Fox News is opposed to the Democratic Party and spins manipulates editorializes everything accordingly? 

 

cc: @Over 29 years of fanhood

I’m not sure why you tagged me, but this game on voting rights is the most political thing ever.
 

Democrats want to be able to harvest votes from the apathetic as well as non citizens that live off of social welfare and wouldn’t otherwise get off their arse to vote, register, get an ID do much of anything really... Republicans know this is like half of the democrats base so they aren’t interested in making harvesting institutionally legal, but admitting that sounds pretty crappy.

 

So dems cry about suppression and republicans cry about fraud. 

[Unforgiven]

[Unforgiven]

Detroit absentee ballot instructions conflict with witness testimony about irregularities

 

<snip>

The instructions, obtained by Just the News through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, were crystal clear concerning signature matching and ballot dating: Verification of signatures on absentee ballots was mandatory, and ballots were to be stamped with the date on which they are received.

Detroit election worker Jessy Jacob, a longtime city employee, testified in November that she was instructed by supervisors to ignore signatures on absentee ballots and to fraudulently backdate late-arriving absentee ballots to make them appear to be valid.

<snip>

 

effin GOP

[JaCrispy]

On 3/18/2021 at 12:41 PM, B-Man said:

 

Oh please...no one cares who votes- so long as the desired outcome is the one achieved...😉

[B-Man]

 

 

THAT’S THE MSM CONVENTIONAL WISDOM, SO IT ALMOST CERTAINLY ISN’T CORRECT: 

 

Is the Special Election in Texas 6 a ‘Canary in GOP Coal Mine’?

 

 

Texas is turning blue. We know because that’s what we’re told. Despite Donald Trump winning the state in 2020 and the 10 Democratic targeted House races all ending up in Republican hands, the state is getting bluer all the time. 😆

 

We know because… well, if the media tells us Republicans are sinking and Texas is where the “evidence” will appear next, naturally, the race to succeed Rep. Ron Wright, who died of COVID-19 in February, will be the “canary in the coal mine” according to Politico.

 

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If the special election in Texas is any indication for 2022, the GOP’s ongoing identity crisis will leave it with a real mixed-bag of candidates in upcoming federal races.

 

Take Michael Wood, who has staked out a position far different from the 22 other GOP candidates in a special election to fill the seat of the late Rep. Ron Wright (R-Texas): He is campaigning against Trumpism, which he hopes will save him rather than be a death sentence, as it is for some who cross the former president. Wood says he voted for Donald Trump in 2020, but after Jan. 6 and his efforts to undermine the election results, Wood flipped. Now, he is banking on a GOP voter base in the rapidly diversifying district in the Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs that is fed up with Trump and looking for something new.

 

 

The special election to replace Wright will occur on May 1 and there are 23 candidates — 10 Democrats and 11 Republicans — vying for the seat. If no candidate receives a majority on Election Day, a runoff election will be scheduled later in the summer.

 

I think it’s fairly obvious to someone who isn’t besotted with anti-Trumpism that Mr. Wood won’t be in any runoff.

 

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“Should Wood prevail with his long-shot bid, he would offer a road map for other Republican candidates who want to distance themselves — and the party — from Trump. But if Wood fails, it could deliver a major blow to the wing of the GOP that’s desperate to turn the page on Trump and hoping to show its strength in the burgeoning battle over who should guide Republicans into the midterms and 2024.”

 

Both scenarios are ludicrous. The “wing” of the GOP “desperate to turn the page on Trump” doesn’t exist. There are a few like-minded individuals who are beating against the wind in opposing Trump but calling them a “wing” of the party is laughable. The establishment of the GOP doesn’t like Trump but needs him as much as his fervent supporters. Very few, if any, would come out in support of Wood. There will be no “page-turning” anytime soon.

 

Nor would there be a “road map” for other GOP candidates to follow to “distance” themselves from Trump — not when all but one candidate in the race is praying for the former president’s endorsement.

 

More at the link: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/04/13/is-the-special-election-in-texas-6-a-canary-in-gop-coal-mine-n1439700

[BillStime]

This bullshittt has to stop on BOTH sides of the aisle:

 

 

[Unforgiven]

https://ktar.com/story/4343249/arizona-dems-file-suit-to-stop-senate-audit-of-maricopa-county-election/

Arizona Dems file suit to stop Senate audit of Maricopa County election

 

Honest people with nothing to hide would want this audit to happen.

Everyone knows who the cheating party is. 

Edited April 23, 2021 by Unforgiven

[BillStime]

5 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

https://ktar.com/story/4343249/arizona-dems-file-suit-to-stop-senate-audit-of-maricopa-county-election/

Arizona Dems file suit to stop Senate audit of Maricopa County election

 

Honest people with nothing to hide would want this audit to happen.

Everyone knows who the cheating party is. 

 

Yeah ok

 

The operation will be live-streamed by the pro-Trump, right-wing television network OANN, which helped raise some of the money used to finance the audit and recount.

[Unforgiven]

6 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

https://ktar.com/story/4343249/arizona-dems-file-suit-to-stop-senate-audit-of-maricopa-county-election/

Arizona Dems file suit to stop Senate audit of Maricopa County election

 

Honest people with nothing to hide would want this audit to happen.

Everyone knows who the cheating party is. 

A brief weekend pause in the Arizona Senate’s election audit that a judge ordered on Friday won’t happen because the Arizona Democratic Party declined to put up a $1 million bond that the judge requested to cover any expenses that the Senate wrongfully incurs due to the halt.

 

LOLOLOLOL

[Backintheday544]

2 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

A brief weekend pause in the Arizona Senate’s election audit that a judge ordered on Friday won’t happen because the Arizona Democratic Party declined to put up a $1 million bond that the judge requested to cover any expenses that the Senate wrongfully incurs due to the halt.

 

LOLOLOLOL

Y’all made about a state not wanting to toss around a $1,000,000 for no reason? Time to toss in your fiscal conservative card.

[BillStime]

 

[Unforgiven]

He continued, “Why are the Democrats so desperate to stop this Election Fraud from being revealed? That answer is obvious! The Governor of Arizona, Doug Ducey, has been shockingly of zero help to the State Senate. He wants to ‘pretend’ the election was free and fair.”

 

 

Lot of pretending both on this board and in America.

[BillStime]

On 4/23/2021 at 1:27 PM, Unforgiven said:

https://ktar.com/story/4343249/arizona-dems-file-suit-to-stop-senate-audit-of-maricopa-county-election/

Arizona Dems file suit to stop Senate audit of Maricopa County election

 

Honest people with nothing to hide would want this audit to happen.

Everyone knows who the cheating party is. 

 

 

[BillStime]

On 4/24/2021 at 11:10 AM, Unforgiven said:

He continued, “Why are the Democrats so desperate to stop this Election Fraud from being revealed? That answer is obvious! The Governor of Arizona, Doug Ducey, has been shockingly of zero help to the State Senate. He wants to ‘pretend’ the election was free and fair.”

 

 

Lot of pretending both on this board and in America.

 

 

[BillStime]

On 4/24/2021 at 11:10 AM, Unforgiven said:

He continued, “Why are the Democrats so desperate to stop this Election Fraud from being revealed? That answer is obvious! The Governor of Arizona, Doug Ducey, has been shockingly of zero help to the State Senate. He wants to ‘pretend’ the election was free and fair.”

 

 

Lot of pretending both on this board and in America.

 

 

[Tiberius]

Recount in Arizona? For what? 

 

Trump lost. Trump is a loser. Trump is weak 

[B-Man]

24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Recount in Arizona? For what? 

 

[daz28]

Sticking your head in the sand is EXACTLY what not accepting a certified election looks like.  If Jesus himself came down, and said there was no election fraud, the nutbars STILL wouldn't believe it.  They'd just say he's a lib commie, and go on believing whatever they choose to believe despite facts to the contrary.  I'm surprised Scott Norwood's field goal miss isn't still under review.  

Edited April 26, 2021 by daz28

[Unforgiven]

1 minute ago, daz28 said:

Sticking your head in the sand is EXACTLY what not accepting a certified election looks like.  If Jesus himself came down, and said there was no election fraud, the nutbars STILL wouldn't believe it.  They'd just say he's a lib commie, and go on believing whatever they choose to believe despite facts to the contrary.  I'm surprised Scott Norwood's field goal miss isn't still under review.  

Hey commie, people in America are free to feel and believe whatever they want, not just you.

[daz28]

3 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

Hey commie, people in America are free to feel and believe whatever they want, not just you.

I know.  They call them alternative facts.  The KEY part of my post was, "despite facts to the contrary".  The people doing the recount are biased AND they are using the wrong pens that could alter ballots, BUTTTTT you're worried about fraud.  Sounds like you're ok with allowing potential fraud if it's your guys doing it.  

Edited April 26, 2021 by daz28

[Chef Jim]

The funny thing is I'm pretty damn sure had this election gone the other way the roles in this debate would absolutely be reversed.