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after the Diggs trade i didn't think Beane would try the only way he would even consider it is if there was a generational type player in the draft then he might pull a D

"Ditka" & package it all to move up but that;s just not his style, Whaley on the other hand was a but anxious on draft day but not Beane even if he was thinking that i think McD would real him back in !!

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19 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

 

I wish I had a link to the interview. It wasn't a written interview, but a FaceTime sort of thing. He was speaking quite earnestly about the struggles of the limited scouting process. I can see no reason to believe he wasn't being honest.

 

 

Of course he was being honest. There is great value in the private visits and workouts and physicals. No GM would dispute that. The good news is that he appears the opposite of panicked. He looks very prepared and i believe the continuity of the coaching staffs and schemes plus the talent in the FO will make this as seamless as possible for the Bills. Whereas you may see other teams with new regimes or inexperienced FOs have a less than ideal draft this year if they were waiting for pro days and visits to do a lot of the final evaluations. The teams with the most prepared scouting reports from the fall will win here. This is the link to the interview where he discusses it, I believe - though he’s done several of them 

 

 

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While Beane keeps things close to the vest, he is a straight shooter. I would suggest that he likely HAS contemplated trading back into the 1st round -- and realized that doing so would likely cost this year's 2nd rounder PLUS next year's 1st (plus maybe more) to do so. And that would be just to trade up to an area close to where our original 1st rounder would have been. Suffice to say, he's not going to do that, barring something crazy happening. So as he said, he is not even contemplating it "right now".

 

Beane likes his late-round draft picks, but he also likes to use those pieces as trade-up chips. Also, when the roster becoming more and more stable, I think he would rather come away with 2-3 relevant players rather throw darts at 6-7. Regardless, with just 2 picks in the top 100, he is going into the draft a bit low on ammo. One of Beane's best attributes is that he is good at predicting moves ahead-of-time. That is why I could see him moving down to acquire more draft picks -- and then using those additional picks to move back up in the middle rounds.

 

I would expect him to move up a bit (5-10 spots) in the 2nd round if he sees a guy he really likes and is worried that he won't be on the board at 54. With the 5th-round pick being higher (10th), that could be enough to make such a modest move, if warranted. Making these 2nd round moves has actually been his MO in his previous drafts with the Bills. Conversely, I could also see him -- if he sees multiple guys with close grades still on the board at 54 -- picking up an extra pick to move back a few spots. 

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Saw a link today that Buffalo ranks 32nd in draft capital for this draft.  Not a dig at the team because I'm thrilled with the Diggs trade, but should indicate the Bills aren't going to be moving up.  The draft is a player acquisition method for the long haul, not satisfying the fantasy football types who think everything is in the now.

 

The roster is much improved for this coming season, but there are several positions which need an influx of youth for down the road.  And that goes for every team.  Right now, Buffalo needs some young depth who hopefully can start in the future at WR, DE, and CB.  Because whether Bills fans like it or not, some players are not going to be re-signed because they'll be allocating cap space. 

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On 4/15/2020 at 1:25 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He's said that in previous interviews - that "Stefon Diggs is our first round pick" and that it'll be hard to get through the first round without a pick, but he plans to cue up some Stefon Diggs highlight films.

 

The best part is..........he’s not a roll of the dice like an ordinary draft pick. We paid a little more, but got a proven player. How many teams took a shot at a WR and whiffed, even with much higher picks,  before Diggs was taken in the 5th? 

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But in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?  ya can bet your azs he will be trading up, ??

 

Go Bills!!!

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On 4/15/2020 at 1:25 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He's said that in previous interviews - that "Stefon Diggs is our first round pick" and that it'll be hard to get through the first round without a pick, but he plans to cue up some Stefon Diggs highlight films.

That’s the right approach. Diggs is better than any of the WRs in this draft, and certainly better than any they could have possibly selected at their pick, or reasonably obtained via a trade up.   Focus on round 2.  I would not be opposed to them moving up in that round for an appropriate value pick, but I do not know who that might be.  Let’s see how it falls.  

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Every time i do a mock draft, I start wondering if it would even be a good idea to trade DOWN in the 2nd. At 54 I’m not seeing great value. It’s like all the RBs minus Swift, and meh-at-54 CBs/DEs

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14 hours ago, FLFan said:

That’s the right approach. Diggs is better than any of the WRs in this draft, and certainly better than any they could have possibly selected at their pick, or reasonably obtained via a trade up. 

I like Diggs but I am going to have to do my be Bill Lumberg and "go ahead and disageree" with the bolded.

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DRAFT PICK            # PICKED      POINTS          CASE1            CASE 2           CASE 3           CASE 4       CASE5        

ROUND 2                  54                    360                  YES                YES                YES                YES               YES

ROUND 3                  86                    160                  YES                YES                x                      YES               x

ROUND 4                  118                  58                    x                      YES                YES                x                     x

ROUND 5                  150                  31                    x                      x                      YES                x                    x

#2 2021                   #54?                180                  x                      x                      x                      YES               x

======================================================================================

We get:                                                                       #38                  #33                  #45                  #31          #54

Move up=                                                                    16                    21                    9                      23                 0

 

 

 

To explain in words:   The way to get a 1st round pick (#31) would be to trade our 2nd and 3rd round picks AND next year's 2nd round pick.

 

We could bundle our 2nd and 3rd round picks and move up 16 slots to #38.  That would likely get us the 2nd 3rd or 4th RB.  (I'm in favor of filling the missing RB hole with a guy who would be an upgrade on Singletary)

 

We could bundle or 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks and move up 21 slots to #33.  Almost in the first round.

 

We could bundle our 2nd, 4th and 5th round picks and move up 9 slots to #45.   We would still have a 3rd, 6th and 7th round pick.

 

The Bills have moved up twice in the top of the draft in the last three years.  We "moved up" in the 1st round, sort of, to get Diggs.  I would not be surprised to see a second move up this year in the second round.   Beane has said that he has no problem with moving up (and even overpayinga bit) to get a way undervalued player OR a superior player who is a good value at a position of need.     A skilled front office will use the draft to get impact players.  Smart planning is to use the FA to fill holes and get incremental improvements and known depth and then draft guys who are BOTH a BPA and at a position of need.  You can get both.  It is weak thinking to thing that "BPA" and "drafting at a position of need" are completely exclusive of one another.

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