Da webster guy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 didn't know he played with Josh. also didn't know he was 6'4 245, he seemed undersized to me. another interesting thing about that guy is he was on the losing end of the single biggest play in the NFL this year, the goal line catch vs the Niners where got within a few inches of getting in the endzone but couldn't quite get in. Seattle loses on that final play, which would have dropped the Niners to 5th seed instead of 1st in the NFC. Imagine how much different the NFC playoffs would have gone with Niners on the road for 3 games instead of a 1st round bye and staying home for two. Game of inches. I watched him all year, I think he was more of a result of Russell being great than he was pure skill. A ton of his catches were underneath stuff after Russ pulls a Houdini and hits a quick toss on a broken play. I don't know about his blocking. If he's smart he'll stay right where he is. I see us as Knox, Sweeney, Smith as the starting 3 TE's next year. Croom should be in camp, and we know he's fast and can leap. Knox has to fix his drops or he's not going to make it anywhere. Dude makes circus catches look easy and easy catches look hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrock123 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 https://buffalowdown.com/2020/01/25/buffalo-bills-tight-end-jason-croom-forgotten-weapon/ Really feel we might be sleeping on Croom. Nepotism aside, he will likely make this roster because he can is a mismatch for slower linebackers and smaller defensive backs. Furthermore, I don't think they will want to re-invest in tight end given their ROI on Kroft and Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: didn't know he played with Josh. also didn't know he was 6'4 245, he seemed undersized to me. another interesting thing about that guy is he was on the losing end of the single biggest play in the NFL this year, the goal line catch vs the Niners where got within a few inches of getting in the endzone but couldn't quite get in. Seattle loses on that final play, which would have dropped the Niners to 5th seed instead of 1st in the NFC. Imagine how much different the NFC playoffs would have gone with Niners on the road for 3 games instead of a 1st round bye and staying home for two. Game of inches. I watched him all year, I think he was more of a result of Russell being great than he was pure skill. A ton of his catches were underneath stuff after Russ pulls a Houdini and hits a quick toss on a broken play. I don't know about his blocking. If he's smart he'll stay right where he is. I see us as Knox, Sweeney, Smith as the starting 3 TE's next year. Croom should be in camp, and we know he's fast and can leap. Knox has to fix his drops or he's not going to make it anywhere. Dude makes circus catches look easy and easy catches look hard. Lee Smith running routes triggers me so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 16 of those games with a torn ACL. That happens. Only other injury major was the broken tibal plateau to start this season. Other INJ include 1 concussion (1 game) and lacerated kidney (2 games) So your agreeing with me, because he has had a major injury every year he has been in NFL. I beleive that's called a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Lee Smith running routes triggers me so.... I just do not get why Lee Smith would be on the team in 2020 except for the "Veteran in the Room" Stuff. There needs to be upgrades in this room. The QB best friend is a TE or a couple TEs Just now, noacls said: So your agreeing with me, because he has had a major injury every year he has been in NFL. I beleive that's called a pattern. I believe it isnt. ACLs happen and so dont broken bones. He is a legit TE and more talented than any we have on the roster. And it will not scare away Beane from signing him. Mitch Morse missed 14 of 32 in two years before becoming the Bills made him the highest paid center and then played 16 of 16 Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I just do not get why Lee Smith would be on the team in 2020 except for the "Veteran in the Room" Stuff. There needs to be upgrades in this room. The QB best friend is a TE or a couple TEs I believe it isnt. ACLs happen and so dont broken bones. He is a legit TE and more talented than any we have on the roster. And it will not scare away Beane from signing him. Mitch Morse missed 14 of 32 in two years before becoming the Bills made him the highest paid center and then played 16 of 16 17/17 - had a great season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 17/17 - had a great season yeah that is why the “injury prone” stuff gets funny to me. Henry tore and ACL (happens a lot in football) and Broke a bone. big deal it isn’t like he is chronically dealing with some degenerative stuff or soft tissue injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, mattrock123 said: https://buffalowdown.com/2020/01/25/buffalo-bills-tight-end-jason-croom-forgotten-weapon/ Really feel we might be sleeping on Croom. Nepotism aside, he will likely make this roster because he can is a mismatch for slower linebackers and smaller defensive backs. Furthermore, I don't think they will want to re-invest in tight end given their ROI on Kroft and Smith. Kind of hard to know how he's developing since he's been on IR all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Kind of hard to know how he's developing since he's been on IR all season. he will get a chance to prove he belongs during camp as an EFRA he will get to camp. But to plan on the Son In Law answering a need would be irresponsible Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I don't see him as anything different than Knox and Sweeney...his play was certainly elevated by having a top-5 QB throwing to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Knox - Potential Sweeney - Inactive ALL YEAR If you are fine with that going into off-season and don't think this is a position of need. I suggest you want Kelce and Kittle in the SB Sweeney appeared in 5 regular season games. Somehow that doesn't equal inactive all year to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Buddo said: Sweeney appeared in 5 regular season games. Somehow that doesn't equal inactive all year to me. Ok MOST of the year that better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we really have a need at TE? Dawson Knox, Tommy Sweeney, Tyler Kroft and Lee Smith. Those names sound like a unit we wouldn’t want to upgrade? I like Knox. Great upside and could be a tier 1 TE eventually. But he’s not right now. Sweeney made a couple plays. Croom made a couple plays the previous year. So did Kroft the year before. Bleh. We have guys that “made a couple plays one year”. They could very well be all that we need, but I’d love an upgrade to make Knox the #2, It would be amazing for this offense to have 2 really good TE’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we really have a need at TE? If he can catch the freaking ball..... YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: yeah that is why the “injury prone” stuff gets funny to me. Henry tore and ACL (happens a lot in football) and Broke a bone. big deal it isn’t like he is chronically dealing with some degenerative stuff or soft tissue injuries I agree. Nothing worse than the constant hamstring injuries. They seem to always reoccur. Still would like to know why football players get hammies & basketball players rarely get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Da webster guy said: didn't know he played with Josh. also didn't know he was 6'4 245, he seemed undersized to me. another interesting thing about that guy is he was on the losing end of the single biggest play in the NFL this year, the goal line catch vs the Niners where got within a few inches of getting in the endzone but couldn't quite get in. Seattle loses on that final play, which would have dropped the Niners to 5th seed instead of 1st in the NFC. Imagine how much different the NFC playoffs would have gone with Niners on the road for 3 games instead of a 1st round bye and staying home for two. Game of inches. I watched him all year, I think he was more of a result of Russell being great than he was pure skill. A ton of his catches were underneath stuff after Russ pulls a Houdini and hits a quick toss on a broken play. I don't know about his blocking. If he's smart he'll stay right where he is. I see us as Knox, Sweeney, Smith as the starting 3 TE's next year. Croom should be in camp, and we know he's fast and can leap. Knox has to fix his drops or he's not going to make it anywhere. Dude makes circus catches look easy and easy catches look hard. You nailed. Lot's of underneath and dump off catches after Lockett ran the defense deep. His best skill was probably improvising with Wilson once Wilson moved out of the pocket. Good story but he would be #4 TE on the Bills if they keep 4 and get rid of the FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 10:46 AM, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we really have a need at TE? Knox, Sweeney, Croom, Kroft, Smith, i think there would be room to get him on the squad that could be a upgrade over at least one here !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Russell Wilson can make ordinary guys look special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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