Doc Brown Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No argument here but I still see many who wear masks to this day. Inside, outside, vaccinated or not. Again...it’s their choice even if a really odd one. To quote Men In Black, "People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." Stock up on toilet paper ASAP for this Delta variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: To quote Men In Black, "People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." Stock up on toilet paper ASAP for this Delta variant. CNN needs something to talk about. The masks are coming off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: CNN needs something to talk about. The masks are coming off. The pandemic is essentially over unless we see a marked increase in hospitalizations and deaths in vaccinated people. Anything else (like the delta variant) is basically fear porn now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 15 hours ago, 716er said: Today I went to Wegman's, the pet store, Fleet Feet, and the park and didn't even bring a mask. FoReVeR And the now half staff of employees that work there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: And the now half staff of employees that work there? Take your mask off, get out of the basement, off of PPP, and live your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Australia fights to contain COVID-19 breakouts as experts warn of dangerous pandemic phase CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia was battling to contain several COVID-19 clusters around the country on Monday in what some experts have described as the nation’s most dangerous stage of the pandemic since the earliest days. Sydney in the east and Darwin in the north were locked down on Monday. Perth in the west made masks compulsory for three days and warned a lockdown could follow after a resident tested positive after visiting Sydney more than a week ago. Brisbane and Canberra have or will soon make wearing masks compulsory. South Australia state announced new statewide restrictions from Tuesday. Authorities warned that a two-week Sydney lockdown that began on Friday would not reduce infection rates for another five days. https://on.mktw.net/3y06149 Another dangerous phase!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Great news! Vax get on with your life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, 716er said: Great news! Vax get on with your life I've gotten on with my life thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, 716er said: Great news! Vax get on with your life But Chef told me I would need 17 booster shots each year until I die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Governor said: But Chef told me I would need 17 booster shots each year until I die. I did? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I did? You’re supposed to mix and match. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/6/28/study-mix-match-method-boosts-immune-response-of-astrazeneca-jab?taid=60da2dcdfdc7d30001f5362b&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A Trending Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Governor said: You’re supposed to mix and match. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/6/28/study-mix-match-method-boosts-immune-response-of-astrazeneca-jab?taid=60da2dcdfdc7d30001f5362b&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A Trending Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true I have. I’ve mixed the freedom and liberty non-invasive formulas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Some red states saw their economies recover from pandemic lows, and it shows how complicated reopening is (Lol it is if you're low info) Some red states have seen their economies come roaring back, Politico reported. Meanwhile, states like New York and Massachusetts continue to remain well below pre-pandemic levels. Utah and Idaho are the only two states above their pre-pandemic levels of employment. Utah's economy came roaring back and then some from pandemic devastation. Meanwhile states like New York, Hawaii, Massachusetts, and Nevada continue to lag far behind their February 2020 economies. That's according to an index from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, which tracks improvements and declines across four major economic measures in each state. As of April, at least 12 states have registered gains since February 2020. That indicates that their economies have not only fully recovered, but are showing gains and even growth. As Politico's Rebecca Rainey and Eleanor Mueller reported in an analysis, states led by Republicans may be faring better in economic recovery. For instance, Utah's recovery has blown other states out of the water, according to the Philadelphia Fed index. Idaho also follows Utah in seeing robust recovery and growth. https://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-saw-their-economies-recover-fast-from-pandemic-lows-2021-6 Stunning! Edited June 29, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 2:43 AM, Doc Brown said: The pandemic is essentially over unless we see a marked increase in hospitalizations and deaths in vaccinated people. Anything else (like the delta variant) is basically fear porn now. Yes but... Unvaccinated people are proving to be the spreaders of the Delta variant (unsurprisingly) and it is breaking through the vaccine a bit in the elderly. https://www.businessinsider.com/vaccinated-among-delta-deaths-but-older-relatively-few-uk-data-2021-6 The unvaccinated and people who didn't get Covid are still placing others at risk. And the older folks are always at risk but lessen the risk with the vaccine. If you're healthy and don't get the vaccine, it's not just on you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 WHO says delta variant of COVID means even vaccinated people should keep wearing face masks, as more Asian cities lock down The World Health Organization is emphasizing its position that even fully vaccinated people should continue to wear face masks in public given the risk presented by the delta variant of the coronavirus-borne illness COVID-19, which is currently racing across the world. WHO officials have said the delta variant, now present in 92 countries, has the potential to become more lethal than others, because of the ease with which it is transmitted. https://on.mktw.net/3h21ZCx Sooooo......the virus is not anymore lethal. Hold on.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 SOCIALISM KILLS BIRTH RATES: Pandemic may have created ‘baby bust’ instead of boom. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2021/06/24/coronavirus-baby-boom-might-be-bust/6881624495310/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I'd rather listen to the rock group The Who over these idiots. "Won't get fooled again..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 hours ago, John Adams said: Yes but... Unvaccinated people are proving to be the spreaders of the Delta variant (unsurprisingly) and it is breaking through the vaccine a bit in the elderly. https://www.businessinsider.com/vaccinated-among-delta-deaths-but-older-relatively-few-uk-data-2021-6 The unvaccinated and people who didn't get Covid are still placing others at risk. And the older folks are always at risk but lessen the risk with the vaccine. If you're healthy and don't get the vaccine, it's not just on you. The Pfizer vaccine is 88% effective against the variant according to the article while the Astrozeneca vaccine is only 60% effective. The mRNA vaccines (pfizer and moderna) have been resilient against all the variants. The most vulnerable people in the US received those vaccines. Only 150 of the approximately 180,000 (.08%) Covid deaths occurred among the fully vaccinated in the US in May. Those are incredible numbers so unless something changes then there's no need at all to require mask mandates or lockdowns. If unvaccinated people want to continue to die from Covid it's on them since the shots are available free of cost right now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The Pfizer vaccine is 88% effective against the variant according to the article while the Astrozeneca vaccine is only 60% effective. The mRNA vaccines (pfizer and moderna) have been resilient against all the variants. The most vulnerable people in the US received those vaccines. Only 150 of the approximately 180,000 (.08%) Covid deaths occurred among the fully vaccinated in the US in May. Those are incredible numbers so unless something changes then there's no need at all to require mask mandates or lockdowns. If unvaccinated people want to continue to die from Covid it's on them since the shots are available free of cost right now. "Of those who were fully vaccinated who caught the Delta variant, 50 died, data from Public Health England that was published on Friday indicated. The figure represents almost half of the total 117 deaths associated with the variant in the UK, where Delta now represents most cases." Most of those deaths were in the elderly. So absolutely the vaccine helps. And also absolutely, people who are unvaccinated are the ones spreading to those elderly by and large. The idea of herd immunity is to make a herd of immune people to protect the vulnerable. Not make a herd of younger people who can protect themselves while a herd of carriers get the disease to propagate to the unprotected older people. Mask mandates and lockdowns are another issue. They shouldn't have ever been put in place. At the same time, the solution to protect our vulnerable is here. Vaccines. Edited June 29, 2021 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, John Adams said: "Of those who were fully vaccinated who caught the Delta variant, 50 died, data from Public Health England that was published on Friday indicated. The figure represents almost half of the total 117 deaths associated with the variant in the UK, where Delta now represents most cases." Most of those deaths were in the elderly. So absolutely the vaccine helps. And also absolutely, people who are unvaccinated are the ones spreading to those elderly by and large. The idea of herd immunity is to make a herd of immune people to protect the vulnerable. Not make a herd of younger people who can protect themselves while a herd of carriers get the disease to propagate to the unprotected older people. Mask mandates and lockdowns are another issue. They shouldn't have ever been put in place. At the same time, the solution to protect our vulnerable is here. Vaccines. You seem to be ignoring the data that just .08% of the Covid deaths in the US in May were among those fully vaccinated and that the most widely used vaccine in the UK is the Astrozenaca one which is inferior to Pfizer and Moderna when it comes to protecting against variants. I wish everyone got the vaccine. Society still should do everything they can to get the movable middle to get vaccinated (preferably with the mRNA vaccines given their effectiveness against variants so far). It's not necessary just looking at the data to force vaccinations at this point in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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