njbuff Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 So, now John Bolton (who has a face only a mother could love) is the New Democratic "Star" that is going to bring the President down? Just how many people before Bolton were "supposed" to bring the President down? Does this crap EVER end? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You’re a Bills fan. My heart stays with my brethren. But I don’t care if you believe me, because it’s not about believe. It’s factual and backed up by mountains of evidence which has been purposely hidden from you by the media, Congress, and political pundits for three years. What astounds me is that someone who thinks they know what’s happening can run so quickly away from information that counters their opinion. A smart person would want to hear it, if only to dismiss it. A broken person runs from it because the cognitive dissonance is too painful. You’ve shown you’d rather run than learn. She's a Margarita without tequila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You’re a Bills fan. My heart stays with my brethren. But I don’t care if you believe me, because it’s not about believe. It’s factual and backed up by mountains of evidence which has been purposely hidden from you by the media, Congress, and political pundits for three years. What astounds me is that someone who thinks they know what’s happening can run so quickly away from information that counters their opinion. A smart person would want to hear it, if only to dismiss it. A broken person runs from it because the cognitive dissonance is too painful. You’ve shown you’d rather run than learn. Give it up. No amount of logic, reasoning or facts will convince zealots. They are tied to their religion of communism/globalism. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Oh no! Sure that is a reasonable reply but you can't dismiss the board lamprey (DR) that easily. lol Put him on ignore and don't reply to his taunts and in about 2-3 years he may forget about harassing you. Until then after most every post of yours DR will most likely follow you around claiming you are not a serious person, that you don't think for yourself, that you support dishonest media and pedophilia, that you yourself are dishonest, and that you are most likely an asshat too. lol Best of luck escaping DR's tentacles. You are going to need it. The fool has about 10 sworn enemies here in PPP and he breaks into the same insult stream with anyone that recognizes and calls him on his BS. Some here find his lunacy sort of charming though I have to admit, I don't see it. Bob. You’re high again. I have zero sworn enemies in PPP. And, unlike you, I have the truth and evidence on my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: So, now John Bolton (who has a face only a mother could love) is the New Democratic "Star" that is going to bring the President down? Just how many people before Bolton were "supposed" to bring the President down? Does this crap EVER end? Bolton is a neocon and was ok as the Ambassador to the UN. The only reason he was a National Security Adviser to Trump was that he wanted to shape Trump's foreign policy. Otherwise he could have just as easily ended up a Never Trumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1221901300272652288 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Oh no! Sure that is a reasonable reply but you can't dismiss the board lamprey (DR) that easily. lol Put him on ignore and don't reply to his taunts and in about 2-3 years he may forget about harassing you. Until then after most every post of yours DR will most likely follow you around claiming you are not a serious person, that you don't think for yourself, that you support dishonest media and pedophilia, that you yourself are dishonest, and that you are most likely an asshat too. lol Best of luck escaping DR's tentacles. You are going to need it. The fool has about 10 sworn enemies here in PPP and he breaks into the same insult stream with anyone that recognizes and calls him on his BS. Some here find his lunacy sort of charming though I have to admit, I don't see it. i would just like to point out that about 5 of those sworn enemies are 1 Sybil. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Bolton is a neocon and was ok as the Ambassador to the UN. The only reason he was a National Security Adviser to Trump was that he wanted to shape Trump's foreign policy. Otherwise he could have just as easily ended up a Never Trumper. I don't care who you are or what side of the aisle you live on. The idea that someone can so quickly go from UN Ambassador, to fired UN Ambassador, to author of a magical book that is teased to have information relevant to a current impeachment trial...makes me want to puke. That's Stormy Daniels Fill=Every-Whole-like whoredom. It's embarrassing for everyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Typical. We hear that from all you drive-byes whenever you want to run away with your tails between your legs. This is a forum for discussion. We have standards and you aren't measuring up. Be better or don't bother. LOL and I have standards too you are now permanently ignored. Cheers 42 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I despise run-on sentences, so I'll keep this brief. Then why the ***** are you here? well I think its because of the fact our POTUS is being impeached and our country is in crisis mode. I'm here to voice my opinion as anyone else but unlike many I don't presume to be the harbinger of all truth and knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Margarita said: well I think its because of the fact our POTUS is being impeached and our country is in crisis mode. I'm here to voice my opinion as anyone else but unlike many I don't presume to be the harbinger of all truth and knowledge. I'm really not trying to be hostile, or pedantic -- but how is our country in "crisis mode"? The economy is booming, unemployment is low, we have the first administration in 3 not to start a new war... what's the crisis? Genuinely curious as to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Orange man residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and not yet removed from office = crisis mode. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: @Margarita Look at the history: They lied to the world about wmd in Iraq, and cost us trillions in treasure, and cost us thousands of our soldiers — not to mention the instability it caused and the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed. They lied to the country about mass surveillance, promising we weren’t being surveilled. They lied to Congress, the media, and people for years — doing untold damage to the 4th amendment. Those same people - not the same agencies, the same PEOPLE — lied for three years about Trump/Russia. They subverted the rule of law, weaponized the Intel collection tools, in order to spy and silence their political opposition. Why? Because 45 wanted to hold them accountable for their record of lying. So I ask, how could you — a sane person of intelligence — take them at their word today without doing the due diligence yourself? Do you think these people deserve a third and fourth chance? Im here because Donald Trump is the POTUS and being impeached for actions that are illegal and I believe he is guilty as charged. as sin. I don't trust Him nor believe of much of what he says..Im not here to argue or crusade or to have anyone convince me he is a good guy because in my view by his actions and words he is a Liar. I was a registered republican and even voted for him because I thought Hillary Clinton was even worse. People in this forum can scoff and ridicule and belittle me and my opinions all they want...the unpleasant truth is there are Millions of people just like me who don't go on to message boards to harangue others about their beliefs as what happens here. If the standards for admission to a political forum are being diehard supporters of EITHER political system at play in our country now I really shouldn't be here because I think both sides corrupt and its a horrible look for our country no matter who "wins" at the conclusion of this trial. 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'm really not trying to be hostile, or pedantic -- but how is our country in "crisis mode"? The economy is booming, unemployment is low, we have the first administration in 3 not to start a new war... what's the crisis? Genuinely curious as to your opinion. impeachment and its result are BAD NEWSfor the Us of A and noone wins Mr Rhino That's really what I think..no winners NONE..if you think the state of our democracy isn't in a crisis mode I don't know what to tell you...gone is any bi partisan reasoning or cooperation at all......to me its tragically SAD..I don't think Donald Trump is clearing a swamp I think he IS the swamp or a more sneaky underhanded version of it because he veils his lies AS truth...…...That's what I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Orange man residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and not yet removed from office = crisis mode. bullpuckey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Margarita said: Im here because Donald Trump is the POTUS and being impeached for actions that are illegal and I believe he is guilty as charged. as sin. I don't trust Him nor believe of much of what he says..Im not here to argue or crusade or to have anyone convince me he is a good guy because in my view by his actions and words he is a Liar. I was a registered republican and even voted for him because I thought Hillary Clinton was even worse. People in this forum can scoff and ridicule and belittle me and my opinions all they want...the unpleasant truth is there are Millions of people just like me who don't go on to message boards to harangue others about their beliefs as what happens here. If the standards for admission to a political forum are being diehard supporters of EITHER political system at play in our country now I really shouldn't be here because I think both sides corrupt and its a horrible look for our country no matter who "wins" at the conclusion of this trial. Oh look. Another "I used to be a republican." ? 9 minutes ago, Margarita said: impeachment and its result are BAD NEWSfor the Us of A and noone wins Mr Rhino That's really what I think..no winners NONE..if you think the state of our democracy isn't in a crisis mode I don't know what to tell you...gone is any bi partisan reasoning or cooperation at all......to me its tragically SAD..I don't think Donald Trump is clearing a swamp I think he IS the swamp or a more sneaky underhanded version of it because he veils his lies AS truth...…...That's what I think. Impeachment is the fault of one group of people, and they don't have an (R) next to their names. You're blaming the defendant for being prosecuted. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Oh look. Another "I used to be a republican." ? whatever floats yer boat Joe. wow. I'll say it again....mock and belittle people all you want its low hanging fruit after all. . Good for you. Edited January 27, 2020 by Margarita 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Margarita said: whatever floats yer boat Joe. wow. We get a lot of that bullschiff here. "I'm an independent!" "I used to be a republican!" Everyone that utters one of those two phrases has been exposed as a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: I don't care who you are or what side of the aisle you live on. The idea that someone can so quickly go from UN Ambassador, to fired UN Ambassador, to author of a magical book that is teased to have information relevant to a current impeachment trial...makes me want to puke. That's Stormy Daniels Fill=Every-Whole-like whoredom. It's embarrassing for everyone. Bolton was "W"'s UN guy for 18 months ( 2005-2006)on a recess appointment but resigned when it didn't appear as if the new dem Senate would confirm him. He was Trump's NSA guy for about another 18 months from 4-18 to 9-19. That was the job he got fired from for reportedly being too war-like. As an example he was supposedly in favor of invading Venezuela. I agree about the book. 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: We get a lot of that bullschiff here. "I'm an independent!" "I used to be a republican!" Everyone that utters one of those two phrases has been exposed as a liar. Baskin is back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Margarita said: Im here because Donald Trump is the POTUS and being impeached for actions that are illegal and I believe he is guilty as charged. as sin. All of the following is an attempt to understand your position in full so that we can have a conversation, not a debate: What actions were illegal and worthy of impeachment, in your mind? Please be specific. 9 minutes ago, Margarita said: If the standards for admission to a political forum are being diehard supporters of EITHER political system at play in our country now I really shouldn't be here because I think both sides corrupt and its a horrible look for our country no matter who "wins" at the conclusion of this trial. There's no standard for admission here. In fact, many of the people you (likely) suspect of being Trump supporters aren't. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not a conservative nor a republican. And, like you, I think both sides are guilty as sin and in fact, the partisan divide is nothing but a distraction designed to pit us against each other rather than holding the truly guilty parties responsible. There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, it's encouraged. It's how we learn from one another. The only thing people have objected to is your (so far -- but it's changing with this post and I thank you for it) throwing bombs then running away when challenged about their validity. 12 minutes ago, Margarita said: .if you think the state of our democracy isn't in a crisis mode I don't know what to tell you...gone is any bi partisan reasoning or cooperation at all......to me its tragically SAD..I don't think Donald Trump is clearing a swamp I think he IS the swamp or a more sneaky underhanded version of it because he veils his lies AS truth...…...That's what I think. Do you believe that Trump is the one who put our democracy into crisis mode in just three years, that it was working perfectly, without bipartisan bickering before Trump came to power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: We get a lot of that bullschiff here. "I'm an independent!" "I used to be a republican!" Everyone that utters one of those two phrases has been exposed as a liar. who are you to judge anyone else as a liar. waaaay too much self righteousness in this thread. Edited January 27, 2020 by Margarita typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: We get a lot of that bullschiff here. "I'm an independent!" "I used to be a republican!" Everyone that utters one of those two phrases has been exposed as a liar. Uhhh, there are several "used to be Democrats" around here, too (I'm not one of them, but I'm sure I've read about a few). Are they also disingenuous? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: Uhhh, there are several "used to be Democrats" around here, too (I'm not one of them, but I'm sure I've read about a few). Are they also disingenuous? (raises hand shamefully) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, snafu said: Uhhh, there are several "used to be Democrats" around here, too (I'm not one of them, but I'm sure I've read about a few). Are they also disingenuous? Haven't seen ANY of those. But 100% of the posters who come here and say "im a moderate," "I'm an independent," or "I used to be a republican" all end up spouting Democratic party/MSM talking points. Just wait. She will, too. Edited January 27, 2020 by Joe in Winslow 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Haven't seen ANY of those. We used to go a few rounds, Joe. Back in my 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Haven't seen ANY of those. Look up one post Edited January 27, 2020 by snafu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, Margarita said: LOL and I have standards too you are now permanently ignored. Cheers well I think its because of the fact our POTUS is being impeached and our country is in crisis mode. I'm here to voice my opinion as anyone else but unlike many I don't presume to be the harbinger of all truth and knowledge. You say you voted for Trump. Well, you got exactly what he claimed to be so what's the beef? We don't expect you to be the harbinger of all truth and knowledge. Just don't give opinions on something you obviously know nothing about. Discuss what you know to be fact and learn from other sources regarding what you don't know. Don't fake it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: We used to go a few rounds, Joe. Back in my 20s. Oh, I know. Even THEN, you weren't like THESE people. You could at least be conversed with. 2 minutes ago, snafu said: Look up one post DR is a unicorn. In fact, perhaps he should rename himself "Deranged Unicorn." Edited January 27, 2020 by Joe in Winslow 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I'm just tuning in now. Is this the first time the Biden tape of him getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired has been played? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: DR is a unicorn. In fact, perhaps he should rename himself "Deranged Unicorn." Perhaps, but he wasn't really who I was thinking of when I first made my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Interesting strategy here, giving Bondi (who has been fabulous) the kill shot on Hunter. I wonder how much thought was given to letting a female lawyer make this case, rather than Sekulow or Cipillone to head off "progressive" attacks. 1 minute ago, Hedge said: I'm just tuning in now. Is this the first time the Biden tape of him getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired has been played? First I've seen them do it. But I missed a chunk earlier this morning. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Hedge said: I'm just tuning in now. Is this the first time the Biden tape of him getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired has been played? Well, the dems wouldn't play it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Yup. Facts are stubborn things. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: All of the following is an attempt to understand your position in full so that we can have a conversation, not a debate: What actions were illegal and worthy of impeachment, in your mind? Please be specific. I think he directed a quid pro quo aid for investigation into the Biden s for His own political benefit not the interest of the USA Quote There's no standard for admission here. In fact, many of the people you (likely) suspect of being Trump supporters aren't. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not a conservative nor a republican. And, like you, I think both sides are guilty as sin and in fact, the partisan divide is nothing but a distraction designed to pit us against each other rather than holding the truly guilty parties responsible. ask 3rd whatever his name was about that. as for the rest politics really is the devil on that we agree There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, it's encouraged. It's how we learn from one another. not according to what Ive seen here so far The only thing people have objected to is your (so far -- but it's changing with this post and I thank you for it) throwing bombs then running away when challenged about their validity. we will agree to disagree that is what has occurred in this forum so far Do you believe that Trump is the one who put our democracy into crisis mode in just three years, that it was working perfectly, without bipartisan bickering before Trump came to power? I think Trump will do what HE thinks is right vs what a president is allowed to do at his whim and wether or not it is constitutional or not be damned. (border wall prime example) the impeachment that is occurring now I don't believe are (excuse the expression) trumped up charges I just don't trust much of what he says. He has his plan and by hell or high water he'll do what he needs to do to accomplish it. His supporters seem to deem that his highest accomplishment, to me it just means he is reckless and has no real concern for law OR the constitution. Ive said enough for today thanks for the dialogue. replies above in reddish color hope this post works 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hedge said: I'm just tuning in now. Is this the first time the Biden tape of him getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired has been played? 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... First I've seen them do it. But I missed a chunk earlier this morning. yep, Bondi is the first to lay the ground work to legitimize Trump's ask for investigations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The article from 2014: Who are Hunter Biden's Ukrainian bosses? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Margarita said: replies above in reddish color hope this post works Do you, personally, find anything wrong/dirty/icky about Biden's son being on the board of Bursima, when Biden himself was put in charge of lobbying for the Ukraine's energy policy among our European allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Haven't seen ANY of those. But 100% of the posters who come here and say "im a moderate," "I'm an independent," or "I used to be a republican" all end up spouting Democratic party/MSM talking points. Just wait. She will, too. posts like these aren't productive and really a bad look for a discussion forum. so what if a persons views are different based on the person in office..to me that is reasonable and not basis to disparage someone as being dishonest or deceptive. I don't have any reason to lie in here I can give exactly squat ****'s what you think of me or my political views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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