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The Impeachment Trial of President Donald J. Trump


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57 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

At the end of the day, they know Trump is never going to be removed from office. This is simply a prolonged political smear. There's a reason the "managers" and media are framing a quick dismissal as a 'cover up', while completely ignoring the fact that the House halfassed the "investigation". Al Green told the truth when he said something to the effect of 'if we don't impeach, he will win re-election'.

 

You are correct in the Democrats attempting to create sound bites instead of presenting proof. Their audience isn't the US Senate, it's the low-information voters that the media is going to repeatedly blast these clips of Democrat smears and lies to, in order to try to influence the 2020 elections. The GOP/Trump campaign will simply "pounce", "without evidence" in reply.

 

:beer: 

Only thing I'd add is that it's not just Trump they're trying to smear for 2020, but the vulnerable republican senators are an even higher priority for them at this moment imo. 

 

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and... that's a wrap. back tomorrow at 10 am for what should be a short opening and insight into where the WHC will be going. and to give the Donners the rest of the weekend to ***** their drawers.

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did anyone else catch Schiff toward the end say that they could get the Chief Justice to rule on Presidential privilege, and if he got it wrong, the Senate could vote to over rule him?

 

I'd love to have seen Roberts face when he said that! 

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1 hour ago, Foxx said:

@snafu

 

perhaps you would know... i don't know the name of the last manager but he was raising the argument that the White house did not comply with any subpoena issued by the House. i have seen it argued that one of the main reasons for this is because the White house viewed them as illegitimate. my understanding is that they were viewed to be illegitimate because the House never took a formal vote. 

 

not sure my understanding is complete here however. is the argument based upon the establishment of the inquiry, ie; a vote to begin the inquiry by the full house begore it began or would it be arguing that the was not a full house vote for each and every subpoena?

 

Hakeem Jeffries from Brooklyn.

I think the blanket refusal was explained in a letter Cipollone wrote to Pelosi on October 8.  You’re right, the letter says that since the House inquiry was improperly commenced, and because of long-standing confidentiality and Executive privilege reasons, the White House wasn’t going to cooperate. I’m sure we’re going to get the full, unexpurgated, explanation over the next few days.

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6459967-PAC-Letter-10-08-2019.html#document/p7

 

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10 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

At the end of the day, they know Trump is never going to be removed from office. This is simply a prolonged political smear. There's a reason the "managers" and media are framing a quick dismissal as a 'cover up', while completely ignoring the fact that the House halfassed the "investigation". Al Green told the truth when he said something to the effect of 'if we don't impeach, he will win re-election'.

 

You are correct in the Democrats attempting to create sound bites instead of presenting proof. Their audience isn't the US Senate, it's the low-information voters that the media is going to repeatedly blast these clips of Democrat smears and lies to, in order to try to influence the 2020 elections. The GOP/Trump campaign will simply "pounce", "without evidence" in reply.

 

 

..is this an evidentiary proceeding where Justice Roberts plays an actual role or is he the peacemaker with Senate vote being ultimate decision?..........

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On 1/21/2020 at 11:47 AM, snafu said:

Cue Ethel Merman:

 

There's no business like show business and I tell you it's so
Traveling through the country is so thrilling, standing out in front on opening nights
Smiling as you watch the theater filling, and there's your billing out there in lights
There's no people like show people, they smile when they are low
Angels come from everywhere with lots of jack, and when you lose it, there's no attack
Where could you get money that you don't give back? Let's go on with the show

 

Almost forgot!

 

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 


the truly unfortunate thing of this whole charade is that a large percentage of the population will not even get to hear the facts supporting this entire thing being BS. They simply just watch the legacy media outlets and follow their snarky journals and celebs on twitter and think they are informed. 
 

IMHO the media is a far more sinister force than even these evil democrats. 

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