PromoTheRobot Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Anyone here a fan of the comic? How do you feel the new HBO version is doing? I think it's an excellent imagining of that universe 34 years on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Who watches the watchmen? Who watches the watchman watchers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I have a few friends pressuring me to watch it. I'm a comic nerd and liked the movie, but I like to binge. I'm going to wait for the season to end first. Also, I'm nervous with HBO after they cancelled Deadwood and Carnivale early. I can't get my heart broken again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Never have had HBO and used to watch all of there series in hotels when I traveled. I liked Rome enough to buy the DVD sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Wow, that many?   Sounds more like the Unwatchedmen.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Virgil said: I have a few friends pressuring me to watch it. I'm a comic nerd and liked the movie, but I like to binge. I'm going to wait for the season to end first. Also, I'm nervous with HBO after they cancelled Deadwood and Carnivale early. I can't get my heart broken again  When you do watch it, keep in mind it follows the comic's events, not the movies'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  When you do watch it, keep in mind it follows the comic's events, not the movies'. massive squid, got it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 12:07 AM, PromoTheRobot said:  When you do watch it, keep in mind it follows the comic's events, not the movies'.  I haven't started watching it yet but have everything DVRed. This was the one question I could not get people to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, shrader said:  I haven't started watching it yet but have everything DVRed. This was the one question I could not get people to answer.  It builds off the comic's timeline. They even flesh out the backstory of one character that wasn't done fully in the comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I've been watching it.   I appreciate the unique storytelling techniques and I've enjoyed the show's complexity. I thought Episode 6 where Sister Knight "re-lived" her grandfather's life with the pills was very clever.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 8:27 AM, dpberr said: I've been watching it.   I appreciate the unique storytelling techniques and I've enjoyed the show's complexity. I thought Episode 6 where Sister Knight "re-lived" her grandfather's life with the pills was very clever.   Well I feel like I've been Lindelof'ed again. The guy is a master of weaving plot threads but had no idea how to tie them off.  So like all his other shows (Lost, Leftovers, etc) I get sucked in only to get a clumsy, rushed, and unsatisfying finale.  And one more thing...squids are dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) I didn't like the comic. I didn't like the movie.  Absolutely loving the show.   23 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:  So like all his other shows (Lost, Leftovers, etc) I get sucked in only to get a clumsy, rushed, and unsatisfying finale.   Wow, I really liked Lost and Leftovers is one of the best shows ever, though I think most people didn't see it. A real-feeling exploration of how people react when confronted by the unknown. It was brilliant. The idea was never to explain the unknown in that show, but to show all the crap people made up.  On 11/30/2019 at 3:00 PM, Virgil said: Also, I'm nervous with HBO after they cancelled Deadwood  This was tragic. But Milch wanted to make John from Cincy so don't blame HBO: Blame him.  Quote and Carnivale  Not feeling this though...that show was awful. Edited December 22, 2019 by Sundancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sundancer said: I didn't like the comic. I didn't like the movie.  Absolutely loving the show.    Wow, I really liked Lost and Leftovers is one of the best shows ever, though I think most people didn't see it. A real-feeling exploration of how people react when confronted by the unknown. It was brilliant.  The flights are great. But the landings suck. Damon's shows can't seem to wrap up in a way that doesn't seem rushed. Edited December 22, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  The flights are great. But the landings suck.  Disagree there. I thought Leftovers had a great ending. Lost, less so but my complaints were quibbles. Not everything needs an explanation. Life isn't like that either. Edited December 22, 2019 by Sundancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Sundancer said:  Disagree there. I thought Leftovers had a great ending. Lost, less os but my complaints were quibbles. Not everything needs an explanation. Life isn't like that either.  Disagree. If you spend 8 episodes weaving plot threads, they have to tie up at the end. Otherwise you failed as a writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  Disagree. If you spend 8 episodes weaving plot threads, they have to tie up at the end. Otherwise you failed as a writer.   [**SPOLIERS***]  The entire point of Leftovers was that everyone made up their own reality to explain what was happening, and none of it was right. That was the entire premise of the show, that all those stories were 100% wrong, and yet the people's lives went on. It was life. I'm not sure any show ever tackled that reality in a better way. Lost tried but Leftovers succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Sundancer said:   [**SPOLIERS***]  The entire point of Leftovers was that everyone made up their own reality to explain what was happening, and none of it was right. That was the entire premise of the show, that all those stories were 100% wrong, and yet the people's lives went on. It was life. I'm not sure any show ever tackled that reality in a better way. Lost tried but Leftovers succeeded.  Well okay but we're taking about Watchmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:  Well okay but we're taking about Watchmen.  Happy to return to that. For that one, I'm a couple from the season finale so I can't speak to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 A guy at work told me he's enjoying it. He said Trent Reznor does the musical scores as well, so I may give it a whirl once I get through Stranger Things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Sundancer said:  Happy to return to that. For that one, I'm a couple from the season finale so I can't speak to it.  Guess I wasn't.  That season tied things up nicely in Watchmen. Looking forward to Season 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Great show. But you have to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 No. And I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I'll wait for the book to come out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 11/30/2019 at 9:29 AM, PromoTheRobot said: Anyone here a fan of the comic? How do you feel the new HBO version is doing? I think it's an excellent imagining of that universe 34 years on. Love it! I am a longtime fan of the comic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Wasn't going to watch since I found the graphic novel and movie underwhelming. However, after a few trustworthy recommendations I'm glad I did. Â It's very well written, complex and thought provoking. Â I liked everything about it. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Just now, Max Fischer said: Wasn't going to watch since I found the graphic novel and movie underwhelming. However, after a few trustworthy recommendations I'm glad I did.  It's very well written, complex and thought provoking.  I liked everything about it.  As a friend explained to me last night, the ending is virtually exactly the same as the plot denouement as GoT. I’ll avoid spoilers here (see below), but it’s kinda mind-blowing.  [Spoiler alert]  lady triu is a megalomaniac just like daenerys, and a trusted family member formerly in exile takes it upon himself to kill her. He is then exiled again. Cyclops — just like the white walkers —  are what we’re led to believe is the true enemy, but they’re a headfake (and both are eliminated in one quick blow). There is more. It is a profoundly great show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 17 hours ago, dave mcbride said: As a friend explained to me last night, the ending is virtually exactly the same as the plot denouement as GoT. I’ll avoid spoilers here (see below), but it’s kinda mind-blowing.  [Spoiler alert]  lady triu is a megalomaniac just like daenerys, and a trusted family member formerly in exile takes it upon himself to kill her. He is then exiled again. Cyclops — just like the white walkers —  are what we’re led to believe is the true enemy, but they’re a headfake (and both are eliminated in one quick blow). There is more. It is a profoundly great show.  I can see the similarities, but never would have come up with analogy, especially since I thought GOT's last few episodes seemed awfully rushed for all the plot points to come together.  On the other hand, to me, WM was perfectly paced to a very satisfying conclusion. I hope there is a 2nd season but would understand if they decide against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 19 hours ago, Max Fischer said:  I can see the similarities, but never would have come up with analogy, especially since I thought GOT's last few episodes seemed awfully rushed for all the plot points to come together.  On the other hand, to me, WM was perfectly paced to a very satisfying conclusion. I hope there is a 2nd season but would understand if they decide against.  I can't see them NOT doing a second season. (See: $$$$) But I read somewhere that if they do, they won't extend the same story but explore another thread of the Watchman universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 7:58 AM, PromoTheRobot said:  I can't see them NOT doing a second season. (See: $$$$) But I read somewhere that if they do, they won't extend the same story but explore another thread of the Watchman universe.  I suppose they left a few threads out there which they could explore if they wanted to, but I really hope this is it. The story feels finished for every character who did appear in this one. I don't want to see the story continued without anyone from the original book, so that really only leaves one more person they can follow. I'll avoid the spoiler just in case, but if you read and watched, you know why I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, shrader said:  I suppose they left a few threads out there which they could explore if they wanted to, but I really hope this is it. The story feels finished for every character who did appear in this one. I don't want to see the story continued without anyone from the original book, so that really only leaves one more person they can follow. I'll avoid the spoiler just in case, but if you read and watched, you know why I'm talking about.  I think there are several possibilities. Don't forget they can go back and forth in time for any storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I just finished the 2nd episode last night. This is one wild ass show. I'm digging it so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Ok....I'm up to episode 5. Its become clear to me that whoever came up with this did copious amounts of acid or mind altering drugs. Adrian Veidt is a riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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