SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2019/08/jessica-pegula-vs-lauren-davis-wta-washing-dc-citi-open-quarterfinals/84009/ https://beta.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/02/jessica-pegula-defeats-lauren-davis-womens-quarterfinal-match-citi-open/?outputType=amp Jessica Pegula was down a service break to Lauren Davis in the second set and had the crowd against her in Friday’s late-afternoon heat on the Grandstand Court at Rock Creek Park Tennis Center. Edited August 4, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2019/08/jessica-pegula-vs-lauren-davis-wta-washing-dc-citi-open-quarterfinals/84009/ https://beta.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/02/jessica-pegula-defeats-lauren-davis-womens-quarterfinal-match-citi-open/?outputType=amp Jessica Pegula was down a service break to Lauren Davis in the second set and had the crowd against her in Friday’s late-afternoon heat on the Grandstand Court at Rock Creek Park Tennis Center. Way to go, Jess. Hopefully she can keep it going to the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Congrats Jess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just watched the semi’s and she won in 3 sets. On to the Finals! Congrats! Nice interview post match, too. Very likable. I also like that they show the coaching. Big change from the days where hand signals from the stands could cost you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Sorry, Shady...didn't see this. She won the finals today...just posted in a new thread (now deleted) She Won!!! https://sports.yahoo.com/pegula-defeats-giorgi-capture-first-wta-singles-crown-192430975--ten.html Edited August 4, 2019 by JoeF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Don't follow tennis but Congrats to her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, JoeF said: Sorry, Shady...didn't see this. She won the finals today...just posted in a new thread (now deleted) She Won!!! https://sports.yahoo.com/pegula-defeats-giorgi-capture-first-wta-singles-crown-192430975--ten.html I meant to watch that, or at least check in. Sorry I missed that, but love the result! Enjoyed watching her yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, Augie said: I meant to watch that, or at least check in. Sorry I missed that, but love the result! Enjoyed watching her yesterday. She's playing the best of her career, Augie. Hopefully that means good things for the Open. Would love to see her at least reach the final 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Is this the big-time womens circuit, or some junior tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, JoeF said: She's playing the best of her career, Augie. Hopefully that means good things for the Open. Would love to see her at least reach the final 16. Yesterday they asked her if she was peaking. She said “well, I’ve got my highest ranking ever, so yes!” Very likable. The Mrs works in NYC about half the month starting early this year. I’ve been threatening to go to the Open for years, and this may just be the year! A buddy goes fairly frequently. I actually prefer the early rounds and the smaller courts. Practice courts just might be better than matches! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Is this the big-time womens circuit, or some junior tour? WTA tourneys usually get players that are in the 35-100 rankings in the world. Its the big time circuit without the top names. Jessica won about $40,000 for winning the tournament...the closer the calendar gets to a major tournament, the better the fields for the WTA tourneys become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, JoeF said: WTA tourneys usually get players that are in the 35-100 rankings in the world. Its the big time circuit without the top names. Jessica won about $40,000 for winning the tournament...the closer the calendar gets to a major tournament, the better the fields for the WTA tourneys become. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JoeF said: WTA tourneys usually get players that are in the 35-100 rankings in the world. Its the big time circuit without the top names. Jessica won about $40,000 for winning the tournament...the closer the calendar gets to a major tournament, the better the fields for the WTA tourneys become. Yeah, this level in both men’s and women’s will get you plenty of people you’ll recognize at The Open, Wimbledon, etc. I went to the BB&T Open in Atlanta recently. We saw plenty of names you’d recognize if you follow the game at all, and plenty of strangers. I remember seeing Nishikori at the Sarasota Open years ago and he was a stranger who stood out. I see he’s #7 right now. Side note: The women want equality in pay. I am ALL FOR equality. So play five set matches....or be quiet. Sorry, just a pet peeve, maybe because Serena pushes the topic. Edited August 4, 2019 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnC Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: You can see the pride radiating from mom and dad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Look, I know she doesn't need the money. However, earning her first championship and winning $43,000 in her chosen vocation...that's pretty sweet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 17 hours ago, JoeF said: WTA tourneys usually get players that are in the 35-100 rankings in the world. Its the big time circuit without the top names. Jessica won about $40,000 for winning the tournament...the closer the calendar gets to a major tournament, the better the fields for the WTA tourneys become. Or as dad would say, take it out of petty cash Jessica 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Or as dad would say, take it out of petty cash Jessica Snickers bar fund... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Augie said: Yeah, this level in both men’s and women’s will get you plenty of people you’ll recognize at The Open, Wimbledon, etc. I went to the BB&T Open in Atlanta recently. We saw plenty of names you’d recognize if you follow the game at all, and plenty of strangers. I remember seeing Nishikori at the Sarasota Open years ago and he was a stranger who stood out. I see he’s #7 right now. Side note: The women want equality in pay. I am ALL FOR equality. So play five set matches....or be quiet. Sorry, just a pet peeve, maybe because Serena pushes the topic. I respectfully disagree that a condition for women to garner more money is to play five set instead of three set matches. The issue of increasing pay outs on the women side has little to do with the number of sets they play as it does with the income their side of the business generates. The three set matches are a good fit for women matches. Players such as Billy Jean King, Martina, Evert, Steffi Graf, Monica Seles and Serena received proportionally less than they should have relative to the income they generated. Historically, Wimbledon significantly under compensated the women side of their tournament even when there was more public interest in their matches compared to the men's side. Serena is a current advocate but she is simply a recent extension of her predecessors fighting to get more money. The only reason why the women now get more is because they fought for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) The mens champion at the same tournament got $384K. That's a pretty wide gap. Edited August 5, 2019 by Irv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: I respectfully disagree that a condition for women to garner more money is to play five set instead of three set matches. The issue of increasing pay outs on the women side has little to do with the number of sets they play as it does with the income their side of the business generates. The three set matches are a good fit for women matches. Players such as Billy Jean King, Martina, Evert, Steffi Graf, Monica Seles and Serena received proportionally less than they should have relative to the income they generated. Historically, Wimbledon significantly under compensated the women side of their tournament even when there was more public interest in their matches compared to the men's side. Serena is a current advocate but she is simply a recent extension of her predecessors fighting to get more money. The only reason why the women now get more is because they fought for it. That’s fine. I admit I am largely swayed by my dislike of Serena after some up close experience in Key Biscayne. But I still feel the disparity in match play is a real factor. I fully understand it’s more complicated than that. All you have to do is look at US soccer, men vs women, and realize that analyzing the actual revenue generated has to be considered in compensation. But I do think there is some reality to equal work for equal pay. Life is complicated, and it’s not always fair. And Serena can be a very nasty person when the camera isn’t on her, and occasionally when it is. She’s the reason I even mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Augie said: That’s fine. I admit I am largely swayed by my dislike of Serena after some up close experience in Key Biscayne. But I still feel the disparity in match play is a real factor. I fully understand it’s more complicated than that. All you have to do is look at US soccer, men vs women, and realize that analyzing the actual revenue generated has to be considered in compensation. But I do think there is some reality to equal work for equal pay. Life is complicated, and it’s not always fair. And Serena can be a very nasty person when the camera isn’t on her, and occasionally when it is. She’s the reason I even mentioned it. It's not surprising that a public figure's persona doesn't always reflect the reality of who that person is. Bill Cosby was an iconic figure who represented a reassuring paternal figure. In private he was a monster who drugged and raped women at a frightening level. With respect to Serena being likable or not doesn't mean that the cause she is promoting is wrong. The issue is the issue. Your wife is a successful banker in a profession dominated by men. I'm sure that she will tell you that the salary scale in her challenging profession isn't always fairly applied between men and women. It's indisputable that the pay gap is closing between men and women but that gap is getting closer not because women were passive about the issue but because they fought for equity on that issue. A very long time ago I was in the vicinity of Barbara Streisand and a situation she was in. OMG! Compared to her Serena is a lovable charmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: It's not surprising that a public figure's persona doesn't always reflect the reality of who that person is. Bill Cosby was an iconic figure who represented a reassuring paternal figure. In private he was a monster who drugged and raped women at a frightening level. With respect to Serena being likable or not doesn't mean that the cause she is promoting is wrong. The issue is the issue. Your wife is a successful banker in a profession dominated by men. I'm sure that she will tell you that the salary scale in her challenging profession isn't always fairly applied between men and women. It's indisputable that the pay gap is closing between men and women but that gap is getting closer not because women were passive about the issue but because they fought for equity on that issue. A very long time ago I was in the vicinity of Barbara Streisand and a situation she was in. OMG! Compared to her Serena is a lovable charmer. No one is more for equality than me, for reasons you cited. And the women put in just as many hours as the men, often more. Not a fraction of what the men do, as in tennis. Serena was having her fit in front of dozens of little kids, and you could tell it was SOP. That’s part of why it struck me so hard. I used to like her, but that turned on a dime! On a related note, Federer walked by with dozens of kids following him, and he’s the real deal. My all-time favorite player and that’s part of why. In a perfect world you compensate based upon revenue generated, but I realize that’s not as easy as it sounds. In my wife’s world, salaries are in a pretty tight range, and the biggest money comes in bonuses which are currently determined by a formula in a grid. The math does recognize gender, but of course you are correct. The top of the pyramid is mostly male. Her immediate group is unusually female controlled. Anyway, as you can tell I’m not a Serena fan....that’s how/why this started. ? Have a great night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Irv said: The mens champion at the same tournament got $384K. That's a pretty wide gap. The men’s tournament is a ATP 500 level which is a larger scale tournament. The women’s tournament is a WTA 280 level. This doesn’t not mean it is anything to scoff at. If you play and or follow professional tennis at all you know the level of athleticism and dedication to win any tournament on the WTA or ATP is extraordinary. This is a big deal and the people who are down playing the accomplishment on here just don’t understand how competitive and demanding the sport is. They only have a month long off season? that’s it it’s almost year round. Edited August 5, 2019 by Lenigmusx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, Augie said: Have a great night! So, you hate all women or just some of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: So, you hate all women or just some of them? I have four on my approved list. The rest should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Duh! ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: The men’s tournament is a ATP 500 level which is a larger scale tournament. The women’s tournament is a WTA 280 level. This doesn’t not mean it is anything to scoff at. If you play and or follow professional tennis at all you know the level of athleticism and dedication to win any tournament on the WTA or ATP is extraordinary. This is a big deal and the people who are down playing the accomplishment on here just don’t understand how competitive and demanding the sport is. They only have a month long off season? that’s it it’s almost year round. No doubt about it, it’s grueling! My old club in Florida had guys who played satellite tournaments after college and would tell stories of how hard it was. The teaching pro where we lived was AMAZING! Played then coached at FSU. Jimmy Arias and Dave McPherson (then the Bryan Bros coach) said Ty definitely had the stuff to give it a very good run on the tour. He had a wife and kids, and he just hated the idea of the lifestyle. He chose family. So he made a good steady living running the club and teaching. Last time I was there his son was #3 in the 14 and unders...in Florida. That’s pretty darn impressive. They come from all over the world to train and compete in Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 hours ago, JohnC said: It's not surprising that a public figure's persona doesn't always reflect the reality of who that person is. Bill Cosby was an iconic figure who represented a reassuring paternal figure. In private he was a monster who drugged and raped women at a frightening level. With respect to Serena being likable or not doesn't mean that the cause she is promoting is wrong. The issue is the issue. Your wife is a successful banker in a profession dominated by men. I'm sure that she will tell you that the salary scale in her challenging profession isn't always fairly applied between men and women. It's indisputable that the pay gap is closing between men and women but that gap is getting closer not because women were passive about the issue but because they fought for equity on that issue. A very long time ago I was in the vicinity of Barbara Streisand and a situation she was in. OMG! Compared to her Serena is a lovable charmer. Babs even more annoying than Serena. I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 19 hours ago, Lenigmusx said: The men’s tournament is a ATP 500 level which is a larger scale tournament. The women’s tournament is a WTA 280 level. This doesn’t not mean it is anything to scoff at. If you play and or follow professional tennis at all you know the level of athleticism and dedication to win any tournament on the WTA or ATP is extraordinary. This is a big deal and the people who are down playing the accomplishment on here just don’t understand how competitive and demanding the sport is. They only have a month long off season? that’s it it’s almost year round. The guys downplaying it are probably still basking off of the glow of the one time they touched the ball in Pop Warner football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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