DC Tom Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh..... Weird. That's not what chryon has been screaming on CNN for 4 hours. I believe the chyron. It's never lied to me. Well...not CNN's. Fox's has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: His job was to establish if the Russians interfered with the election, and to determine if the Trump campaign conspired with them along the way. Incorrect. He was tasked with determining if ANYONE (not just Trump) conspired with them along the way. Which is why it's a ridiculous statement to say he couldn't look into Clinton/Steele/Fusion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 From AM session. Ratcliffe Destroys Mueller Jordan Destroys Mueller Gaetz Destroys Mueller Collins Destroys Mueller Armstrong Destroys Mueller Johnson Destroys Mueller(Republican Close) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: His job was to establish if the Russians interfered with the election, and to determine if the Trump campaign conspired with them along the way. In investigating those things, they established that Russia did interfere, and during the process it seems as though Trump attempted to obstruct justice multiple times, including a couple attempts at witness tampering. You conveniently left out how they also found Trump DID NOT collude with them....in fact rebuked them many times. And despite Obama allowing this to happen, the FBI did not warn his campaign this was possible. I mean, it's almost like this was a deliberate sham.....and Mueller was the chosen figurehead, someone completely non partisan. Above it all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Sewell is not doing her side favors talking Trump Tower meeting. That meeting will never survive scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Incorrect. He was tasked with determining if ANYONE (not just Trump) conspired with them along the way. Which is why it's a ridiculous statement to say he couldn't look into Clinton/Steele/Fusion. Clinton never conspired with the Russian government. They hired foreign agents to collect dirt on an opponent, which is legal. Trump's team was offered dirt on an opponent by a foreign agent, and should have told the FBI. I don't get what the difference is, but apparently there is one in the eyes of the law. For the record, I think what both sides did was wrong and unethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Clinton never conspired with the Russian government. They hired foreign agents to collect dirt on an opponent, which is legal. Clinton PAID FOR RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE. Where do you think Steele got his information from? RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS. You're woefully underinformed on this subject. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: You conveniently left out how they also found Trump DID NOT collude with them....in fact rebuked them many times. And despite Obama allowing this to happen, the FBI did not warn his campaign this was possible. I mean, it's almost like this was a deliberate sham.....and Mueller was the chosen figurehead, someone completely non partisan. Above it all. I've said numerous times in this thread there was no collusion. I agree it was a sham as well. Ultimately it was a political hit job. 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Clinton PAID FOR RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE. Where do you think Steele got his information from? RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS. You're woefully underinformed on this subject. As the law is written, what Clinton did is legal. They hired an intermediary to collect dirt, and that guy went out and got his dirt, although it seems almost all of it was made up out of thin air. You seem to be woefully uninformed about how the law works. Edited July 24, 2019 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Turner wants to focus on one word: "exonerated". "Does the AG have the power to exonerate anyone?" (he does not) "Would you agree with me the AG does not have the power to exonerate?" Mueller: "I'll pass on that." Turner: "Why?" crickets EXACTLY Turner is eviscerating him right now. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 You watched on live TV today the post game locker room interviews of a failed government coup. This was breathtaking. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Carson asking if it's a national security risk to share private polling data with a foreign adversary... Mueller won't "speculate on those lines". The real question is if it's a national security risk to share private polling date with a US STATE DEPARTMENT ASSET. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Wenstrup (R-OH) is up. Asks Mueller "is it accurate to say that no members of the Trump campaign were involved in the theft of (Clinton's) emails?" Mueller hems and haws -- "I don't know". Suddenly Mueller can't follow along 13 minutes ago, jrober38 said: As the law is written, what Clinton did is legal. They hired an intermediary to collect dirt, and that guy went out and got his dirt, although it seems almost all of it was made up out of thin air. You seem to be woefully uninformed about how the law works. You're 100% incorrect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, jrober38 said: As the law is written, what Clinton did is legal. They hired an intermediary to collect dirt, and that guy went out and got his dirt, although it seems almost all of it was made up out of thin air. You seem to be woefully uninformed about how the law works. Enlighten us. Start with which part of the USC covers this. I'll even give you a head start. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Schiff is trying to say "offering dirt" to Don Jr was the same as being paid by a Russian asset aka a CONSPIRACY. This is the best he's got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Mueller asked if he knew his personal choice of lead investigator, Andrew Weissman, was an attendee at Hillary's election night planned celebration ? Mueller states he did not know. I think he's a: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're 100% incorrect. Then why haven't they been charged? Trump said it himself - people pay for political dirt all the time, which is true. For whatever reason, if you seek out the dirt, it's legal , but if a foreign government brings you something on their own, it's illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Then why haven't they been charged? Trump said it himself - people pay for political dirt all the time, which is true. For whatever reason, if you seek out the dirt, it's legal , but if a foreign government brings you something on their own, it's illegal. You're 100% wrong on where the dirt came from, how it was obtained, why it obtained in that matter and how it fits the exact definition of collusion/conspiracy the left has been trying to sink Trump with for three years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 LOL. "If you vote for Trump in 2020, the statute of limitations might run out and make it impossible to charge him for this thing that we have no evidence of." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The illegality here was not accepting dirt or hiring someone to dig up dirt. It was misrepresenting the dug up dirt as being vetted and using it as the basis to get a warrant and using law enforcement against an opposing campaign. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: The illegality here was not accepting dirt or hiring someone to dig up dirt. It was misrepresenting the dug up dirt as being vetted and using it as the basis to get a warrant and using law enforcement against an opposing campaign. (and paying for foreign intelligence services to provide said dirt -- which is illegal for the purposes of subverting a sitting president) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: This might be the best takeaway. The Republicans should probably let Quigly use all their time... Edited July 24, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Schiff is such a ****head. If I were Schiff, I'd beef up my security detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: If I were Schiff, I'd beef up my security detail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Then why haven't they been charged? Trump said it himself - people pay for political dirt all the time, which is true. For whatever reason, if you seek out the dirt, it's legal , but if a foreign government brings you something on their own, it's illegal. Clinton hasn't been charged, so she's not guilty. Trump hasn't been charged, so...? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Clinton hasn't been charged, so she's not guilty. Trump hasn't been charged, so...? Woah Woah woah... Don't question assumptions now... Obviously we can assume that if Clinton were guilty she'd be charge, but that Trump hasn't been charged because he's obstructing justice... I mean, that's just simple assumptions, which we know are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) I got out of a meeting in time to catch the last 15 minutes before the current break. It's getting tough to listen to Mueller struggle. Edited July 24, 2019 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Agreed. Time to get them. "Hillary, your lies make me hard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: I got out of meeting in time to catch the last 15 minutes before the current break. It's getting tough to listen to Mueller struggle. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're 100% wrong on where the dirt came from, how it was obtained, why it obtained in that matter and how it fits the exact definition of collusion/conspiracy the left has been trying to sink Trump with for three years. Feel free to enlighten me then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: "Hillary, your lies make me hard". "Barack, I'm not a tranny." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Clinton hasn't been charged, so she's not guilty. Trump hasn't been charged, so...? Trump can't be charged while he's President unless Congress impeaches him. Impeachment is very unpopular in the polls, which is why I think they'll wait until he's no longer President to go after him (I don't agree with this at all, just what I think they'll do). Edited July 24, 2019 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Feel free to enlighten me then. I'm not trying to be snippy -- just a lot happening all at once. When this dies down I will -- but start by reading that document I shared which you said you already knew about but didn't. https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Page 82-85 specifically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'm sure this was discussed earlier, but DAMN SON! Where Do I have to move to vote for this guy? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Trump can't be charged. Quit your horseshit. I haven't been responding to you because you are "one of those posters". You subtly twist things and draw people into a long discussion with statements like the above. We know Trump can't be charged as a sitting president. If Mueller thought he was guilty of something there was nothing against him coming right out and saying so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Republicans are not questioning any of Muellers basic conclusions. They are just trying to raise red Harings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Stefanik was the one who tripped up Comey in 2017 and started the whole unraveling FYI. She got him to throw Bill Preistap under the congressional bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Republicans are not questioning any of Muellers basic conclusions. They are just trying to raise red Harings How so? What conclussions do you want them to ask about, and what red harings are they throwing? Edited July 24, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (This setting exposes Nunes' lack of a legal background) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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