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Buffalo Sabres and NHL: 2019/20: Sabres season officially over. Draft lottery June 26th


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7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

and its the same freaking statement from yesterday...WTF , with the way their ownership of the Sabres has gone, they have the chance to do the right thing here and gain some much needed positive PR...just say your gunna pay them like normal. What freaking good is getting paid in 6 weeks from now gunna do when these people have bills today

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I'm curious what folks here think about the regular season starting back up.


My position is that the regular season is done right now.

 

The bigger question is what in the world are they going to do about the playoffs.

 

The factors that have "postponed" the season right now are going nowhere come playoff time, and in fact, everything will be a lot worse by then.

 

I fear we will miss the playoffs, or all games will be played in empty arenas, which is almost like missing the playoffs anyway. 

 

Won't be the same. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

I'm curious what folks here think about the regular season starting back up.


My position is that the regular season is done right now.

 

The bigger question is what in the world are they going to do about the playoffs.

 

The factors that have "postponed" the season right now are going nowhere come playoff time, and in fact, everything will be a lot worse by then.

 

I fear we will miss the playoffs, or all games will be played in empty arenas, which is almost like missing the playoffs anyway. 

 

Won't be the same. 

 

 

 

I think it all depends on what happens over the next couple/few weeks. Everything seems to be closing rapidly right now, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they do cancel the rest of the season. 

 

The last time it happened was during the 1919 Stanley cup finals iirc. I believe they were in game 5 of the finals and just cancelled the Stanley cup for that season. 

 

Ill be interested to to see how they decide draft position if they do.

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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

I'm curious what folks here think about the regular season starting back up.


My position is that the regular season is done right now.

 

The bigger question is what in the world are they going to do about the playoffs.

 

The factors that have "postponed" the season right now are going nowhere come playoff time, and in fact, everything will be a lot worse by then.

 

I fear we will miss the playoffs, or all games will be played in empty arenas, which is almost like missing the playoffs anyway. 

 

Won't be the same. 

 

 

 

They always say if you're within 0 points of the playoffs by St. Patrick's Day, you are 100% going to make them. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

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It's unlikely the season will resume. The experts are unanimous in predicting the virus situation in the upcoming months will get worse. The players are now dispersing and going home. So even if there is a return date they will have to practice together for some time before resuming games. In addition, before returning the players will have to be tested for the virus, and it is probable that some will have the virus and will have to be quarantined. 

 

The health of the players and the surrounding population is obviously the most important consideration. From a hockey developmental standpoint players such as Mittelstadt and Ukko-Pekka needed all the playing time they could get in the AHL for their individual progression. 

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https://theathletic.com/1683491/2020/03/18/senators-player-becomes-first-nhler-to-test-positive-for-covid-19/

Senators player becomes first NHLer to test positive for COVID-19

 

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An unnamed Ottawa Senators player tested positive for the virus, the team said in a release late Tuesday night. That player is experiencing mild symptoms and is now in isolation.

 

It is believed that multiple Senators players are ill and awaiting test results to determine how many been infected.

 

The team recently completed a trip through California before the NHL shutdown play last Thursday afternoon. It’s possible the infection occurred when the Senators played at the Staples Center after the Brooklyn Nets — the NBA team that has now had four positive COVID-19 tests — faced the Lakers in Los Angeles.

 

It’s a good thing they shut down when they did or chances are it could have spread pretty quickly through the NHL ranks. 

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9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

https://theathletic.com/1683491/2020/03/18/senators-player-becomes-first-nhler-to-test-positive-for-covid-19/

Senators player becomes first NHLer to test positive for COVID-19

 

 

It’s a good thing they shut down when they did or chances are it could have spread pretty quickly through the NHL ranks. 

Dealing with players infected with the virus is a relatively simple matter. All players and staff will be tested for the virus before resuming regular work activities. That's an easy issue to deal with. The challenging issue is how do you hold a large populated event where some of the attendees will certainly be infected with the virus even after the epidemic of infections has been declared over? If you have five people infected with the virus who are without symptoms in a crowd of 18,000 people you are creating a risk situation that could exponentially spread in a short period of time. 

 

I don't see the season or the playoffs resuming this year, even for a delayed and abbreviated playoff schedule. The bigger question is when will the safe conditions exist for the next season to begin? Needless to say we are in uncharted territory on how to conduct ourselves not only as fans but in how we go about our lives. When a new normal replaces the old normal it can be disorienting. 

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https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/03/18/nhl-prioritizing-full-2020-21-season-in-any-return-plans/

In trying to resume this season, NHL’s priority is also maintaining full 2020-21 season

 

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As the NHL mulls over ways to resume the 2019-20 season and/or postseason, Bill Daly notes that there’s a key emphasis: not taking away from a full 2020-21 season.

 

The only definite for us is we certainly don’t want to do anything around a resumption of play this season that will impact our ability to have a full season next year,” Daly said. “So that’s kind of the outside parameters and rules we’re following currently. Everything else is kind of up for grabs for lack of a better term. There are lots of possibilities. We do have people working internally on those scenarios and what they look like and what the feasibility is.”

 

During other parts of that interview, and in other media appearances, Daly emphasizes how “fluid” this situation really is.

 

Ill be pretty surprised if the NHL is able to resume their season at this point.

 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/03/18/nhl-prioritizing-full-2020-21-season-in-any-return-plans/

In trying to resume this season, NHL’s priority is also maintaining full 2020-21 season

 

 

Ill be pretty surprised if the NHL is able to resume their season at this point.

 

No one can say what the future holds for this virus. But it is starting to become evident that there is no quick remedy to this plague. I don't foresee a resumption of hockey for this season, and that includes a version of the playoffs. It's not even certain if a normal scheduled hockey season will happen next season. This virus is going to reside within a segment of the population for a long time. And that will result in the necessity to continue on with some form of social distancing. 

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/u-s-coronavirus-plan-pandemic-will-last-over-18-months.html

 

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2 hours ago, JohnC said:

No one can say what the future holds for this virus. But it is starting to become evident that there is no quick remedy to this plague. I don't foresee a resumption of hockey for this season, and that includes a version of the playoffs. It's not even certain if a normal scheduled hockey season will happen next season. This virus is going to reside within a segment of the population for a long time. And that will result in the necessity to continue on with some form of social distancing. 

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/u-s-coronavirus-plan-pandemic-will-last-over-18-months.html

 

As an introvert bookworm, social distancing is my preferred lifestyle anyway.

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9 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

As an introvert bookworm, social distancing is my preferred lifestyle anyway.

Life is like a Ferris wheel ride. What is up eventually comes down. What is thought to be unfashionable by the people who are fashionable turns out to be fashionable by the unfashionable people. Or another way of putting it is that what some people consider to be uncool behavior is not only cool behavior but may also enhance your longevity. :thumbsup:

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Pegulas not helping themselves in the public eye with the way they are handling this crisis. I think the Athletic may be making some their content for free, but if you cannot get will post some snippets.

 

https://theathletic.com/1689857/2020/03/20/pegula-sports-entertainment-lays-off-hospitality-workers-at-buffalo-properties/

 

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As a valuable asset to our hospitality family when business returns to normalcy, we encourage you to come back and apply for an open position. You will be amongst the first considered to re-join our teams,” Dominic Verni, the vice president of hospitality, wrote in the termination letter obtained by The Athletic.

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Even if the employees are rehired and return to work, there has been no guarantee they’ll come back at their same rate of pay. In addition, the organization is not paying out the Paid Time Off (PTO) that employees have accrued, citing a clause in their separation policy, according to a laid-off supervisor from the hospitality team.

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An arena exception is concession workers, who are employed by Delaware North. The Buffalo-based hospitality giant has not announced any plans for its workers, drawing nationwide criticism. Many sports owners have stepped in and will pay those concessions staffers, too.

But the Pegulas have stayed on the sidelines, which is noticeable because they launched the aforementioned “One Buffalo” campaign after buying the Sabres and Bills. At the program’s inception, they promised it would serve as a “representation of teamwork and a deeper connection between Buffalo sports teams, fans and the community.”

There are now doubts as to whether the connection is real.

 

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The attached link is a column by Bill Hoppe from the Buffalo News. It's subject is Jonas Johansson and his experience as a call up. The Sabres have a number of young goalie prospects in its system but they have a way to go before being called up on a long term basis. The biggest issue right now is whether Ullmark is a #1 goalie. What is known for sure is that he has moved ahead of Hutton as our primary goalie. 

 

 https://buffalonews.com/2020/03/19/buffalo-sabres-rochester-americans-jonas-johansson-goaltending-prospects/?view=getnewpost

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On 3/20/2020 at 1:14 PM, plenzmd1 said:

Pegulas not helping themselves in the public eye with the way they are handling this crisis. I think the Athletic may be making some their content for free, but if you cannot get will post some snippets.

 

https://theathletic.com/1689857/2020/03/20/pegula-sports-entertainment-lays-off-hospitality-workers-at-buffalo-properties/

 

 

 

Simplistic article about a complex issue.  Wow - let's quote a disgruntled anonymous employee!  

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Ralph Krueger is going to be on the instigators today (at 11am I think).

 

Should be a pretty interesting listen I bet. He is back overseas and has family just outside the quarantine zones in Italy iirc.

 

He has some interesting thoughts on this back on March 9th in an athletic article interview (and many thought he was being an alarmist at the time...).

 

https://theathletic.com/1665553/2020/03/09/as-global-markets-sound-alarms-ralph-krueger-forecasts-paradigm-shift-in-society/

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The Sabres signed another college free agent player. The below link is by WGR's Paul Hamilton. 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-sign-college-free-agent-dawson-dipietro

10 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Ralph Krueger is going to be on the instigators today (at 11am I think).

 

Should be a pretty interesting listen I bet. He is back overseas and has family just outside the quarantine zones in Italy iirc.

 

He has some interesting thoughts on this back on March 9th in an athletic article interview (and many thought he was being an alarmist at the time...).

 

https://theathletic.com/1665553/2020/03/09/as-global-markets-sound-alarms-ralph-krueger-forecasts-paradigm-shift-in-society/

(sub req.)

 

I was going to add the Krueger on the Instigator Show link but decided not to because there wasn't much about the Sabres on it. The second half of the interview dealt with his experience playing against the famous Russian team and his familiarity with the players and coach.  

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1 hour ago, JohnC said:

The Sabres signed another college free agent player. The below link is by WGR's Paul Hamilton. 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-sign-college-free-agent-dawson-dipietro

I was going to add the Krueger on the Instigator Show link but decided not to because there wasn't much about the Sabres on it. The second half of the interview dealt with his experience playing against the famous Russian team and his familiarity with the players and coach.  

It’s still Sabres related IMO and worth sharing.

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-23-sabres-head-coach-ralph-krueger

 

Thanks! 

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10 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

It’s still Sabres related IMO and worth sharing.

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-23-sabres-head-coach-ralph-krueger

 

Thanks! 

The below WGR link is the Krueger interview on the Instigators. This is the segment that I referred to in the prior post.  The second half of the interview deals with his relationship with the Russian team and staff. It seems that his belief in the five on one philosophy (forward line and defense pairing working as a unit) has a Russian origin. 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-23-sabres-head-coach-ralph-krueger

 

The next link is a column by WGR's Paul Hamilton about Krueger and the immediate aftermath in Montreal when he and the team learned that the season was going to be stopped due to the virus. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-krueger-hopes-to-continue-the-season

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The attached link is an article by Lance Lysowski of the BN. This article is about Dylan Cozens and his early return home from the juniors because of the virus. According to the article Dylan could have played for Rochester if the AHL playoffs would have been held. It also noted that he wouldn't be able to play for Rochester when the season started next year because he didn't meet the age criteria. I don't understand the inconsistency in the age requirement between being able to play in the playoffs this year and not being able to play in Rochester next year? 

 

He playing in the juniors next year will not do him much good from a development standpoint. I'm confident that he will earn a spot on the roster with the Sabres next year. Dylan, Tage and Kahun will all be with the big club next season. (I can't say for sure about Mittelstadt.) I also strongly suspect that Risto or another defenseman will be dealt to add another forward. Steadily the GM is remaking the roster. 

 

https://buffalonews.com/2020/03/24/buffalo-sabres-lethbridge-hurricanes-dylan-cozens-nhl-whl-news-2020/

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https://buffalonews.com/2020/03/23/buffalo-sabres-dominik-hasek-nhl-msg-nbcsn-new-jersey-devils/

 

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Wednesday – The 10-0 start: The 3-0 win at the New York Islanders on Oct. 26, 2006, that allowed the Sabres to tie the NHL record for the best record from the season's opening faceoff with the 1993 Toronto Maple Leafs.

 

Thursday  The 9/11 game: The 5-4 overtime loss against the New York Rangers on Oct. 7, 2001, in Madison Square Garden, the first regular-season game in New York after the 9/11 attacks.

 

Friday – The 'Who Else' game: The 2-1 overtime victory over the Rangers on May 4, 2007. It was a Game 5 thriller from the second round that produced another classic Rick Jeanneret call on Chris Drury's tying goal with 7.7 seconds left in regulation.

 

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Meanwhile, NBC Sports Network is starting 12-hour presentations of great NHL playoff games and Winter Classics today at 3 p.m. in what the network is dubbing "Hockey Week in America." Programming will also stream on NBCSports.com and the NBC Sports app.

 

From Monday through Thursday, games will run from 3 p.m. to 3 a.m. focusing on a specific theme of the last 10 years. From Friday through Sunday, the games will run from 8 p.m. to 3 p.m.

 

The themes are as follows: (click on link to article)

 

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The Sabres are featured in only one of these groupings. At 8 p.m. on Wednesday, the network will air the 2008 Winter Classic against the Pittsburgh Penguins in the snow at Ralph Wilson Stadium.

 

On Friday night at 8, former Sabres goalie Ryan Miller is one of the featured performers during a re-airing of the 2010 Olympic gold medal game between Team USA and Team Canada. Of course, Miller was beaten for the winning goal in both games by Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby.

 

Monday's schedule of Game 7 thrillers looks like this: (click on link to article)

 

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^^^^ @BillsFan4, i have not watched the replays yet, but they did autorecord. Saw on the Twitter they had to take out the fights from the last Aud game, and could not show the post game ceremony...not the Sabres fault but those were the best parts of the last game at the Aud. Wont make a lot of sense to shows the Sens brawl game if they cant show fights

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