billspro Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I agree we don’t need a repeat of last years Josh Allen bashing thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: So if someone doesn’t like the pick, are they still required to be excited or will that be an embarrassment to the franchise? You could just let people react however they like and not let it bother you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, mead107 said: The mead football evaluation crew is keeping quiet. I’ll be happy with whoever they take. I have no say who they pick. Those who think they are smarter than the experts should quit their job and join the Bills. ????????????????? Here's how I look at it. The Bills get their money from ticket sales, tv contracts, and and licensed gear purchases. In other words, we pay Beane. I'm going to let the man do the job we pay him to do. If at first I don't like a pick, I'll research further to find out why Beane liked the guy. And then hope Beane is right. We'll find out as the season progresses. I won't pretend to be smarter than Beane and his team of professional scouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, whatdrought said: So you're saying I shouldn't make an ultimatum that if we draft a player with the same first name of the player I want, instead of the player that I want, that I'm done with the team and leaving the board?... damn. there goes my night. ...simple...just get out your "Whaley Darts"....the ghost lives on here................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: So if someone doesn’t like the pick, are they still required to be excited or will that be an embarrassment to the franchise? That is not even close to what the OP was saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billspro said: I agree we don’t need a repeat of last years Josh Allen bashing thread. I know a lot of these responses are ‘tongue-in-cheek, but you’re absolutely right about that. . Edited April 25, 2019 by The Senator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 So if the Bills draft a guy like Simmons of Mississippi STate, who is on tape beating a woman, I should just cheer for him because he’s a Bill? I get your point point and I used to have the same mindset. I hated Allen before the draft as a qb prospect. So it’s hard to just completely ignore my worries just because he’s a Bill. But I will root for him to succeed because he’s a Bill but it’s hard to just completely forget the doubts. Same with a guy they pick this year (though I think QB is the main player that scrutinized). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: That is not even close to what the OP was saying. Its literally what he said 3 minutes ago, section122 said: Care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Senator said: I don’t get your point. Is Stew Barber still in charge? . Not completely clear on your point either. Since Bean is in charge it is an absolute certainty whomever we draft will be on the team next season? I will conceade however the Cousineau pick did eventually get us a trade which I believe we used to get Kelly so all is well that ends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Its literally what he said Care to explain? From the post you quoted lol 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: You don't have to like the pick. Just have actual reasons not to like the pick. Also understand that you could be wrong Those are my words but the quote section attributed it to you for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Here's how I look at it. The Bills get their money from ticket sales, tv contracts, and and licensed gear purchases. In other words, we pay Beane. I'm going to let the man do the job we pay him to do. If at first I don't like a pick, I'll research further to find out why Beane liked the guy. And then hope Beane is right. We'll find out as the season progresses. I won't pretend to be smarter than Beane and his team of professional scouts. I get this but why can’t an average fan not make a better choice than Beane or any GM? Just because you have a job doesn’t make you an expert. I loved JuJu and would have taken him in 2017. We traded up for Zay. That looks wrong. Plenty of people wanted Ngata instead of Whitner. People wanted Russell Wilson. Just because you have a job title doesn’t make you infallible. Beane was an intern who worked his way up. Props to him but it’s not like he’s Bill Gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I might not be a fan of every one of Beane's picks. But I am a fan of every player we draft. Sure. I’ll root for the players taken even if I don’t think they have a high probability of success. But I can still discuss my expectations and their progress (or lack thereof). I can stay objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Beane might not pick your guy, but he's very unlikely to make any four base errors, either. No Aaron Maybins or Walt Patulskis on his board. Erik Flowers (shudder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, section122 said: From the post you quoted lol Those are my words but the quote section attributed it to you for some reason So are people allowed to express their dislike the pick or not? In your OP you advised against mocking or bashing the pick. Now it’s okay as long as you have reasons? What if those reasons are based on an article or YouTube highlights? How much scouting needs to be done in order to have a valid opinion one way or the other? This has left me with more questions than answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Leonhart2017 said: Not completely clear on your point either. Since Bean is in charge it is an absolute certainty whomever we draft will be on the team next season? I will conceade however the Cousineau pick did eventually get us a trade which I believe we used to get Kelly so all is well that ends well. Well, Stew Barber picked Cousineau #1 overall, then didn’t even bother to meet him at the airport or take him to dinner. Cousineau’s agent was so pissed at the snub that he opened talks with the Allouettes. He would have worn a Bills uniform, had Barber not f’d things up so badly. My point was that this front office doesn’t screw up like that. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I get this but why can’t an average fan not make a better choice than Beane or any GM? Just because you have a job doesn’t make you an expert. I loved JuJu and would have taken him in 2017. We traded up for Zay. That looks wrong. Plenty of people wanted Ngata instead of Whitner. People wanted Russell Wilson. Just because you have a job title doesn’t make you infallible. Beane was an intern who worked his way up. Props to him but it’s not like he’s Bill Gates. Right and technically some random dude could also perform open heart surgery. I mean it's unlikely but if you repeat it enough times eventually someone will pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: So if the Bills draft a guy like Simmons of Mississippi STate, who is on tape beating a woman, I should just cheer for him because he’s a Bill? I get your point point and I used to have the same mindset. I hated Allen before the draft as a qb prospect. So it’s hard to just completely ignore my worries just because he’s a Bill. But I will root for him to succeed because he’s a Bill but it’s hard to just completely forget the doubts. Same with a guy they pick this year (though I think QB is the main player that scrutinized). You never hid your feelings regarding Allen. However, you always articulated your reasons for your opinions and, while passionate in your debates (a few with me) - you weren’t a d*#khead, or, as the OP put it, “that guy.” I believe that is all the OP was saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, eball said: Erik Flowers (shudder) ...maybe add Mike "Crisco Kid" Williams in there for honorable mention............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: So are people allowed to express their dislike the pick or not? In your OP you advised against mocking or bashing the pick. Now it’s okay as long as you have reasons? What if those reasons are based on an article or YouTube highlights? How much scouting needs to be done in order to have a valid opinion one way or the other? This has left me with more questions than answers. Now you are just being that guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Now you are just being that guy... What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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