billspro Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I dont think we go DL in round 1 unless it is a edge rusher now but that is just me.......I liked the work that both Phillips did last year All signs are pointing to oline imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, blacklabel said: He's really athletic for a guy his size. Hopefully with some more time on the field we'll see more production. I think McDermott can get him going. And if they do go DL with their first pick, I think it's gonna be one of those guys that can play both inside and on the edge. Versatility is a major key trait they love for this defense. The more time goes on I am starting to think Burns is a legit pick at 9 for the bills (maybe they just dont get the value offered in a trade down) I am dissecting Burns play this week.....he is NOT Aaron Maybin....he is what Aaron Mabin was supposed to be when we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Buddo said: Good, one hole less to fill. While I'm not 100% sold on the guy, he certainly has ability, and with Kyle retiring, the added continuity he brings, will help. Probably a 'prove it' type deal, but not necessarily especially 'cheap'. I like how he genuinely seems to want to be in Buffalo. We have to hope Phillips improves in his sophomore season to allow a nice rotation that McD likes ro run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The more time goes on I am starting to think Burns is a legit pick at 9 for the bills (maybe they just dont get the value offered in a trade down) I am dissecting Burns play this week.....he is NOT Aaron Maybin....he is what Aaron Mabin was supposed to be when we drafted him. EDGE is a huge need. This year they are probably ok but depending on what they do with Shaq, both he and Hughes could be gone next year and look at the FA market this year for pass rushers - almost no one hitting the market, it’s going to be Tre Flowers and no one. the good ones are too valuable and they are crazy $$. And the Bills absolutely need to improve their pass rush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The more time goes on I am starting to think Burns is a legit pick at 9 for the bills (maybe they just dont get the value offered in a trade down) I am dissecting Burns play this week.....he is NOT Aaron Maybin....he is what Aaron Mabin was supposed to be when we drafted him. Burns is intriguing. I don't know how well he'd fare if they shifted him inside here and there. A guy like Rashan Gary makes a lot of sense as he can play both inside and outside very well. I just don't think he'll be around when they pick at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, blacklabel said: Burns is intriguing. I don't know how well he'd fare if they shifted him inside here and there. A guy like Rashan Gary makes a lot of sense as he can play both inside and outside very well. I just don't think he'll be around when they pick at 9. Yeah I am more looking at guys that can realistically be there at 9.....that is why I never mention Bosa in any of my stuff Some of these guys are just off the board cuz they wont be there and Gary is one of those 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: EDGE is a huge need. This year they are probably ok but depending on what they do with Shaq, both he and Hughes could be gone next year and look at the FA market this year for pass rushers - almost no one hitting the market, it’s going to be Tre Flowers and no one. the good ones are too valuable and they are crazy $$. And the Bills absolutely need to improve their pass rush. i agree. I think its whats separating them from the handful of elite defenses in the league. pass rush was moody and inconsistent last year and mostly came up small in large moments. add a rusher to an already stout defense and I think its a top 3-5 unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Yeah I am more looking at guys that can realistically be there at 9.....that is why I never mention Bosa in any of my stuff Some of these guys are just off the board cuz they wont be there and Gary is one of those Right on. The more I think about it, the more it really makes sense for them to go DL/DE with their first pick. It's just so loaded in that position group this year and with Hughes and Lawson both in contract years, it just makes sense. Beyond that, when McBeane were in Carolina, they had a loaded DL following the 2014 season but they still took Vernon Butler with their first round pick that year. Adding strength to a strength is never a bad idea. And this year, I think that's just gonna be their best value. Maybe they'll luck out and some teams will scramble up into the top 10 for a QB and that'll push down some blue chip guys to Buffalo. Here's hoping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: i agree. I think its whats separating them from the handful of elite defenses in the league. pass rush was moody and inconsistent last year and mostly came up small in large moments. add a rusher to an already stout defense and I think its a top 3-5 unit. We're not a stout defense. We're a team that lead the league against in passing yards and 7th in int's and fumbles recovered. We're middle of the pack in rushing yards allowed and points, and near the bottom in sacks. I just think we have a good amount of work to do from a personnel standpoint on defense to get stout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, White Linen said: We're not a stout defense. We're a team that lead the league against in passing yards and 7th in int's and fumbles recovered. We're middle of the pack in rushing yards allowed and points, and near the bottom in sacks. I just think we have a good amount of work to do from a personnel standpoint on defense to get stout. totally disagree. 2nd in total yds against, 8th in total TO's forced, and a 8th in 3rd down%(that's a big one). those are important numbers.... middle of the pack in rush d and points against. if you're worst stats are only middle of the pack you are a stout unit.... all with an anemic offense for most of the year. a pass rush gives them the ability to be a top 5 unit. I wont be mad about a pass rusher at 9. I have other preferences but I would understand it and it would make the defense a force. Edited March 5, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: totally disagree. 2nd in total yds against, 8th in total TO's forced, and a 8th in 3rd down%(that's a big one). those are important numbers.... middle of the pack in rush d and points against. all with an anemic offense for most of the year. a pass rush gives them the ability to be a top unit. I wont be mad about a pass rusher at 9. I have other preferences but I would understand it and it would make the defense a force. So a team that doesn't play the run well and doesn't sack the QB is stout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, White Linen said: So a team that doesn't play the run well and doesn't sack the QB is stout? yup. lets just look at 2 stats..... one of which they are middle of the pack. they didn't play the run bad. good talk Edited March 5, 2019 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: yup. lets just look at 2 stats..... one of which they are middle of the pack. they didn't play the run bad. you don't like to look at things as whole. i'll remember that next time. good talk, bruh. I'm not trying to argue with you - I just think we're far from set on defense and that it's stout. I do agree that the offense didn't help consistently and an offense scoring, moving the ball and winning the possession time is important. I also know that teams didn't have to throw to win several games. Hey we're all Bills fans and want the team to win. I want most of the draft and FA to help the offense and I believe we'll address a few of those defensive holes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, White Linen said: I'm not trying to argue with you - I just think we're far from set on defense and that it's stout. I do agree that the offense didn't help consistently and an offense scoring, moving the ball and winning the possession time is important. I also know that teams didn't have to throw to win several games. Hey we're all Bills fans and want the team to win. I want most of the draft and FA to help the offense and I believe we'll address a few of those defensive holes also. fair enough... i'm sick and probably a little more gritty today than I should be. I disagree that the defense, as a whole, wasn't a solid unit. regardless our preferences for the offseason are the on same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: fair enough... i'm sick and probably a little more gritty today than I should be. I disagree that the defense, as a whole, wasn't a solid unit. regardless our preferences for the offseason are the on same page. Let's take it a step further. This is where I disagree with Yolo above. I want to go after one of the FA pass rushers (i.e. Houston). I'm satisfied with Hughes and think he puts enough pressure on the QB despite not having the sack totals. I would not pick up the 5th year option on Shaq and I'd justify that 2020 money with my new 2019 defensive end signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 A one year deal is perfect for him. He’s not at the point where I would trust him with a multi year deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 5 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: We have to hope Phillips improves in his sophomore season to allow a nice rotation that McD likes ro run. Which Phillips are you talking about? This is about Jordan Phillips... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Which Phillips are you talking about? This is about Jordan Phillips... Haha the mini meatball ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I don't get the 1 year deals sometimes. If you like the player, sign him for more than a year. Obviously both sides have to come to agreement, but a longer deal for Jordan would have been better if it was a realistic possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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