The_Dude Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: we will agree to disagree on basically everything so was Brutus a good or bad man? He was a patrician obvlivious to the political landscape around him. The legend of his name had more to do with his actions than anything else. He was like a son to Caesar. Had Octavian declined Caesars wealth it would have gone to Brutus. Brutus did what he thought was right, but his lack of political savvy that only a patrician could have made him blind to the results of his actions which created another 2 decades of civil war. Brutus was a man. He was neither bad nor good. He was a man. It’s complicated. But other than the murder and Phallsarus he’s not really overly important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: you have to step up your game when you're 5'9"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, The_Dude said: He was a patrician obvlivious to the political landscape around him. The legend of his name had more to do with his actions than anything else. He was like a son to Caesar. Had Octavian declined Caesars wealth it would have gone to Brutus. Brutus did what he thought was right, but his lack of political savvy that only a patrician could have made him blind to the results of his actions which created another 2 decades of civil war. Brutus was a man. He was neither bad nor good. He was a man. It’s complicated. But other than the murder and Phallsarus he’s not really overly important. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: Thank you. Um, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Um, ok. That's how polite society responds to a well-thought out answer to an honest question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rob's House said: the really scary ***** is, she actually believes the crap she is spouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: That's how polite society responds to a well-thought out answer to an honest question. Why ask by the way? Brutus of all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Why ask by the way? Brutus of all people. A key role in Shakepeare's play. A life in Plutarch. I thought you were the classical scholar. ------------------------------------------------------- https://babylonbee.com/news/being-outraged-by-stupid-nonsense-replaces-baseball-as-national-pastime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Foxx said: the really scary ***** is, she actually believes the crap she is spouting. Because they're leftists they can be written off as fringe nuts. If they were white racists it would be dispositive proof of the scourge of white supremacy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, row_33 said: A key role in 1. Shakepeare's play. A life in Plutarch. I thought you were the classical scholar. ------------------------------------------------------- https://babylonbee.com/news/being-outraged-by-stupid-nonsense-replaces-baseball-as-national-pastime 1. Not my area. 2. My fascination is akin to Gibbons. I'm obsessed with Rome. I'm obsessed with it's autopsy. How did such a juggernaut fall? The more I learn the harder it is to figure out. I want the US to avoid being Rome at all costs. That wasn't Plutarch's game. I've never read his work direct, but as you can imagine it's cited often in things I have read. I study mostly military history. Rome is something I will study till I die. My other fascinations are WWI, Churchill, and just warfare in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The_Dude said: 1. Not my area. 2. My fascination is akin to Gibbons. I'm obsessed with Rome. I'm obsessed with it's autopsy. How did such a juggernaut fall? The more I learn the harder it is to figure out. I want the US to avoid being Rome at all costs. That wasn't Plutarch's game. I've never read his work direct, but as you can imagine it's cited often in things I have read. I study mostly military history. Rome is something I will study till I die. My other fascinations are WWI, Churchill, and just warfare in general. cool, my close reading is on several topics with 25 books going at once. my favourite politician is in Burckhardt: A near-despotism, without morals or principles, such as Pandolfo Petrucci exercised from after 1490 in Siena... Insignificant and malicious, he governed with the help of a professor of juris prudence and of an astrologer, and frightened his people by an occasional murder. His pastime in the summer months was to roll blocks of stone from the top of Monte Amiata, without caring what or whom they hit. Edited January 22, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Foxx said: the really scary ***** is, she actually believes the crap she is spouting. Some dense lunacy in the comments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: cool, my close reading is on several topics with 25 books going at once. my favourite politician is in Burckhardt: A near-despotism, without morals or principles, such as Pandolfo Petrucci exercised from after 1490 in Siena... Insignificant and malicious, he governed with the help of a professor of juris prudence and of an astrologer, and frightened his people by an occasional murder. His pastime in the summer months was to roll blocks of stone from the top of Monte Amiata, without caring what or whom they hit. I'm afraid I'd be rather disappointing in conversations on political theorists. I have a base knowledge to be sure, Machiavelli, St Ambrose, Talleyrand, Locke, and Voltaire are all people I'm familiar with. But I cannot lecture on them, nor could I keep up with somebody keen on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I'm afraid I'd be rather disappointing in conversations on political theorists. I have a base knowledge to be sure, Machiavelli, St Ambrose, Talleyrand, Locke, and Voltaire are all people I'm familiar with. But I cannot lecture on them, nor could I keep up with somebody keen on the topic. believe me, any honest attempt at a conversation is welcome i have a good friend getting his doctorate in something egregiously arcane and useless for the real world, he is great at avoiding what appears to being washed over Niagara Falls when he obtains this. and i'm well washed in this post-postmodern world, it's the best for my view of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: holy *****, i'm still laughing. thanks 49 minutes ago, The_Dude said: ... My fascination is akin to Gibbons. I'm obsessed with Rome. I'm obsessed with it's autopsy. How did such a juggernaut fall? ... i'm convinced it all boils down to the lead piping they used in their plumbing systems. Edited January 22, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Haha that’s great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I honestly do think the MAGA hats is all that was needed to drive this story. As a lefty, I judge anyone wearing a MAGA hat or a pro-life shirt. But I’d do the same to someone with a Bernie Sanders shirt. And I’m sure many on the right would do the same to a Clinton shirt or a hat saying SHW and Proud. i won’t condemn them of course, but I’ll judge (right and wrong). I won’t let the media or others use that pre-conceived judgment I have against me though, that’s the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Foxx said: holy *****, i'm still laughing. thanks i'm convinced it all boils down to the lead piping they used in their plumbing systems. NO. GODDAMNIT NOOO. No. Stop. No. The Romans didn't know what lead poisoning was because they didn't suffer from it. Yes they used lead pipes, but within a couple weeks the pipes had a phosphorus buildup on them that prevented lead poisoning. Roman water was cleaner than Flints is now. I hope you're just ***** with me. Edited January 22, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts