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8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Just watched this again and came away drooooling again.  Go get this kid!

I’ll admit I know next to nothing about this kid other than he’s fairly large and people have said he needs to run well this spring to solidify a high draft slot. 

 

My take away is that, while very valuable, speed can be overrated and I love this dude. Makes plays for his qb and makes up for what looks to be pedestrian field speed(he gets caught a couple times) with ELITE field vision. 

 

Sign me up. 

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3 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I’ll admit I know next to nothing about this kid other than he’s fairly large and people have said he needs to run well this spring to solidify a high draft slot. 

 

My take away is that, while very valuable, speed can be overrated and I love this dude. Makes plays for his qb and makes up for what looks to be pedestrian field speed(he gets caught a couple times) with ELITE field vision. 

 

Sign me up. 

 

Yeah, and I’m not sure why people are concerned by his speed, he’s made several explosive plays to me.  Love this kid and love Metcalf.  

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19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yeah, and I’m not sure why people are concerned by his speed, he’s made several explosive plays to me.  Love this kid and love Metcalf.  

I have unfortunately become a speed guy. Watching Kelvin Benjamin repeatedly will do that to a person. I think he's too slow. Mike Williams (USC) comes to mind. Great college player, however. 

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On 1/2/2019 at 1:32 PM, whatdrought said:

My dad, a Steelers fan, is in hard denial that the era of the 3 B's is over and with nothing to show. I know they don't fire coaches, but come on... How do you keep someone who can't produce with that much talent?

 

Come on man, he has taken the Steelers to 2 SB, won 1, he has a regular season record of 131-71-1 career record, he's the winningest head coach based on win percentage with 68.8%, yeah he really blows. Marv Levy had 4 HOF players and won 0 SB.

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16 hours ago, wppete said:

 

Why do you have to bring race into this?!?!?

Cmon man....

 

He already told you.....because he's a millennial.

 

The goal is no longer a 'colorblind society'.  The goal is to slice and dice every situation through the perspective of race, no matter how irrelevant it is to the situation.

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As far as Antonio brown coming here I don't think it would be a good fit and I'm not saying that as a bitter Steelers/Bills fan, I'm saying it because the moment Josh Allen stops throwing him 15 targets a game he's going to go into a tirade, this has been his thing for awhile, he was good about his first contract and then was a diva ever since and yes he is an amazing player but he signed the contract, then they extended him now another tirade. I wouldn't want Brown anywhere near Josh Allen but that's just my opinion. Brown needs a veteran QB who will know how to force feed his diva WR and I don't think that's what Allen needs to be doing in year 2.

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3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

I have unfortunately become a speed guy. Watching Kelvin Benjamin repeatedly will do that to a person. I think he's too slow. Mike Williams (USC) comes to mind. Great college player, however. 

 

I agree, except he is a lot faster than KB was this season IMO.  I am not sure what his actual speed is, but watching him he seems fast enough to me.  For instance, Hopkins doesn’t have elite speed, neither did guys like Boldin, Marshall, Fitzgerald, etc.  They aren’t slow, but also not burners.  KB was so slow he should honestly think about converting to a TE with his size.  But his ego will never let that happen I am sure.  

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6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I agree, except he is a lot faster than KB was this season IMO.  I am not sure what his actual speed is, but watching him he seems fast enough to me.  For instance, Hopkins doesn’t have elite speed, neither did guys like Boldin, Marshall, Fitzgerald, etc.  They aren’t slow, but also not burners.  KB was so slow he should honestly think about converting to a TE with his size.  But his ego will never let that happen I am sure.  

KB is also likely a genuinely terrible in-line blocker. 

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10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I agree, except he is a lot faster than KB was this season IMO.  I am not sure what his actual speed is, but watching him he seems fast enough to me.  For instance, Hopkins doesn’t have elite speed, neither did guys like Boldin, Marshall, Fitzgerald, etc.  They aren’t slow, but also not burners.  KB was so slow he should honestly think about converting to a TE with his size.  But his ego will never let that happen I am sure.  

 

Yes, they don't have to be the fastest IMO. It all comes down to route running ability and being able to get separation and get open. Speed helps but as long as they aren't as slow as KB is then I think they will be just fine.

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Incredible talent. truly one of the game's best WR's. Very reasonable contract as well. But that attitude....ugh. He's a diva and a flake rolled into one.

 

I'm of the opinion that this could easily backfire. This guy has had the luxury of playing with a HOF QB his entire career and he has a meltdown if he doesn't get his 1,500 yards. What's he going to do if he struggles to get 1,000 yards with a 2nd year QB? He comes across as a me-first guy and not a team player.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

Come on man, he has taken the Steelers to 2 SB, won 1, he has a regular season record of 131-71-1 career record, he's the winningest head coach based on win percentage with 68.8%, yeah he really blows. Marv Levy had 4 HOF players and won 0 SB.

 

How many important games has he lost with a top 7 QB, and the best RB and the best WR and a good offensive line? 

 

I know he’s a good coach, but if you can’t win with that, then there’s something wrong.

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1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

 

Yes, they don't have to be the fastest IMO. It all comes down to route running ability and being able to get separation and get open. Speed helps but as long as they aren't as slow as KB is then I think they will be just fine.

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1 minute ago, whatdrought said:

 

How many important games has he lost with a top 7 QB, and the best RB and the best WR and a good offensive line? 

 

I know he’s a good coach, but if you can’t win with that, then there’s something wrong.

 

 

...good points bud...wasn't the last Lombardi in 2009?.....then again, with 3 HC's in 48+ years, "firing" in NOT in the Rooney vocabulary...........

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7 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

He already told you.....because he's a millennial.

 

The goal is no longer a 'colorblind society'.  The goal is to slice and dice every situation through the perspective of race, no matter how irrelevant it is to the situation.

 

I don't think it's irrelevant. In another thread two people have already convicted Vance Joseph of something charges were never brought against him for.

 

You can find people all over this board defending Rothlisberger. 

 

Yet in this thread people are trying to turn Antonio Brown into some insane monster left and right over stuff that is far less heinous than what the aforementioned have on their reputations. And the situation was exacerbated and mishandled by Tomlin.

 

But trot out the old man troll bull#### because the scope of the situation doesn't fit the narrative that's convenient for you.

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27 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I don't think it's irrelevant. In another thread two people have already convicted Vance Joseph of something charges were never brought against him for.

 

You can find people all over this board defending Rothlisberger. 

 

Yet in this thread people are trying to turn Antonio Brown into some insane monster left and right over stuff that is far less heinous than what the aforementioned have on their reputations. And the situation was exacerbated and mishandled by Tomlin.

 

But trot out the old man troll bull#### because the scope of the situation doesn't fit the narrative that's convenient for you.

Not the place for this ol D. 

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I think he goes to the 49ers.  It makes too much sense.  The Steelers won't get the 49ers 2nd pick in the draft for him given Brown's age and contract, but I could see something like the 49ers giving up aa 2nd round pick in 2019 and 2020 trade for him.

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2 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Not the place for this ol D. 

 

I'm going to give you a thumbs up because I can't tell where you are going with that post. And I don't mean that as a bad thing lol.

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9 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I think he goes to the 49ers.  It makes too much sense.  The Steelers won't get the 49ers 2nd pick in the draft for him given Brown's age and contract, but I could see something like the 49ers giving up aa 2nd round pick in 2019 and 2020 trade for him.

 

Don't you think teams with young QBs will be hesitant to trade for him?  If he doesn't respect Big Ben who will he respect?

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On 1/11/2019 at 6:44 AM, Joe in Winslow said:

Love the highlights.

 

But that...uh...music?

 

This surprises me. I always had you pegged as a Travis Scott kinda guy.😃

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19 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

This surprises me. I always had you pegged as a Travis Scott kinda guy.😃

 

Yeah, no. :lol:

 

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The thing that confuses me about this board is that everyone says we need to upgrade the offense. But be almost nobody wanted Landry. Now mostly nobody wants Brown or Bell. Everyone wants elite talent but when it's available almost everyone finds a reason why the elite guy isn't a good fit.

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