Billever76 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Change my mind.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I don’t disagree and I won’t try to. When the games get to crunch time, he just doesn’t believe in pressuring the QB. This is a key reason why the Bills defense is below average in scoring D. They’ll never really be an elite D like the Ravens if Frazier is the DC. Bad news is, he probably stays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Frazier is a better DC than Daboll is an OC. Change my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Yes, we need someone who can turn this unit into a top 5 D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Frazier is a better DC than Daboll is an OC. Change my mind. ...LOL....could be a mind numbing conundrum....can they tie??......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just now, TPS said: Yes, we need someone who can turn this unit into a top 5 D. Werent they’re top 5 before yesterday? of all the issues with this team, people pick Frazier to criticize? Weird. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I disagree. Defense is missing a few pieces and for the most part we've been good. We need one of these DTs coming out, we need a corner and we need a true MLB. If our offense could actually put up some points and force teams to throw on us more I like our chances with Hyde, Poyer and White. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...LOL....could be a mind numbing conundrum....can they tie??......... Frazier has a much better resume. Daboll always has bottom 5 offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Frazier is a better DC than Daboll is an OC. Change my mind. Absolutely correct..4th stint as an NFL offensive coordinator and he has a #20 ranked offense as his best ever with multiple dead last #32 ranked offense and this year's #31 ranked offense..it looks to me we have the same problem we always have!..cheap retread loser coordinators and a rookie HC whom was looking for his shot...what do they all have in common?.. obviously they come cheap bc they are either unproven or proven to be nothing more than mediocre...start by changing that if we ever want to be relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Werent they’re top 5 before yesterday? of all the issues with this team, people pick Frazier to criticize? Weird. I heard the Bills' defensive players talking about the Patriots took advantage of Ramon Humber's intimate knowledge of the schemes and any potential adjusments in the run game. You add in Matt Milano and Taron Johnson missing from the lineup with Corey Thompson making mistakes you have a bad result. Edited December 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Defense is great until you get to the red zone. They need to solve that problem and do a little more blitzing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I'm not sure it's the scheme, so much as the lack of consistent difference-makers in the front 7 (minus Milano). Who does an opposing team have to game plan around? The secondary, but not really anyone in the front 7 besides perhaps Milano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I heard the Bills' defensive players talking about the Pattiots took advantage of Ramon Humber's intimate knowledge of the schemes and any potential adjusments in the run game. You add in Matt Milano and Taron Johnson missing from the lineup with Corey Thompson making mistakes you have a bad result. Yeah and he shut down Brady. Personally, I’m be more mad at our big free agents, like our run stuffer, than Frazier. This is misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Werent they’re top 5 before yesterday? of all the issues with this team, people pick Frazier to criticize? Weird. Top 5 in ypg..delve deeper..turnovers? #26....sacks?..#26...ppg not sure but def towards the bottom half of the league!!..also Frazier's whole bend but don't break defense relys on 2 things to be successful one being a consistent pass rush using only your 4 dlinemen...and an offense that can control the clock and put up points...we have neither of those!!!.. FRAZIER is a piss poor fit for our talent Edited December 24, 2018 by Billever76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) What ever happened to Harrison Phillips? How is it that we need a defensive tackle when we just paid a guy 10 mil and drafted one in the 3rd round? Should be good to go at the position. Edited December 24, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Need a offense to take the pressure off that would help tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Werent they’re top 5 before yesterday? of all the issues with this team, people pick Frazier to criticize? Weird. ....the #1 or #2 ranking based on yards is misleading.....gashed for 273 on the ground yesterday, the third or fourth time given up >200 yards......point differential is -130....there are other coaching priorities to be addressed first.....putting aside the 5-10 record because that is more on the dynamic duo of McClappy & Dabumble's offensive (HIGHLY) prowess.....would like to see Frazier be more aggressive along with the late, great Jim Johnson's disciple....as much as I hate the guy and don't even want to spew his name, Airhorn Greggy's Browns' D is "get after it"...... Edited December 24, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Helpmenow said: Need a offense to take the pressure off that would help tons. See where I mentioned that above?..Frazier's defense needs 2 things to be successful..1 being a Khali Mack type dlineman and an offense that can control the clock resulting in long drives and ending in points..it's a bend but don't break defense relying on allowing opposing offenses to take the underneath stuff and eating up allot of time and then tightening up and forcing punts or long field goal attempts..it's never gonna be elite in stats that matter bc it's an outdated philosophy...ppg,sacks,turnovers and 3 and outs will always be low 20's ranking with this retread cover 2 from the lovie Smith Tony Dungy tree....it's time has come and gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Werent they’re top 5 before yesterday? of all the issues with this team, people pick Frazier to criticize? Weird. It's called sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) I disagree. Here's what he's had to work with: - the good: 3 good-to-excellent DBs who've been healthy pretty much all season; an undersized 2nd year playmaker OLB in Milano; an apparently ageless OLB in Alexander, having a very good season; a 2nd-tier edge rusher in Jerry Hughes, having a fine season; Shaq Lawson looking kind of average-ish (rather than bust-ish) this year, but not emerging as any kind of playmaker; an overpaid at best average-ish big body in Star - the bad: a 35 year old Kyle Williams as your best interior DL; promising but not fully effective (yet?) interior DL men in the two Phillipses; a 19/20 year old athletic phenom stuck into a key role at MLB from Day 1 based on what is obviously the HC's decision; no other pass rusher of note other than Hughes; no other "keeper" talent at LB; a patchwork (due to injury and/or lack of talent) at the other CB and nickel back; most of all, an offense that was so ineffective most of the season that the D is on the field (in bad field position) way more than they should be Edited December 24, 2018 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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