dollars 2 donuts Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Mark Vader said: It would be difficult for him to get a starting job in the league. I think it would be great for the Bills to sign him to a 2-3 year deal. Exactly, Vadar. He is a reasonable back up solution. Give this guy a couple of million or so per, and let's been done with the back-up position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 hours ago, BillsRdue said: They gave McCarron 5m per. . It's the going rate for a top notch backup who could be a starter. And it would keep him here for the foreseeable future. are you saying Barkley is a top notch backup who could be starter? AJ too? That may be the going rate for these 2, but I wouldn't consider them top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, klos63 said: are you saying Barkley is a top notch backup who could be starter? AJ too? That may be the going rate for these 2, but I wouldn't consider them top notch. Is Joe Flacco a top notch backup? What do you consider "top notch"? Edited December 17, 2018 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Barkley has found a home in B’lo. He needs to embrace the Frank Reich role. Like Reich Barkley is a evangelical Christian who appears to have God given ability to mount comebacks. He’s best suited as a teams #2. We will need him the way Allen plays. 1 good game against the Jets and he's the next Frank Reich? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 11 hours ago, stevewin said: I noticed that during the game - love to see it When I saw him cheering my first thought was he bet the Bills on the money line. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, WhyteDwarf said: Is Joe Flacco a top notch backup? What do you consider "top notch"? Someone who has had a fair amount of success as a backup QB over time, not just 1 game, like Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, klos63 said: Someone who has had a fair amount of success as a backup QB over time, not just 1 game, like Barkley. Well, if Allen is oft injured, then things are not going to plan anyways. Ideally a backup just needs to be in QB meetings etc. I guess, fans should not care so much about backup players IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I definitely think they should make a nice offer to keep Barkley here as the #2. Definitely has the traits that "the process" looks for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I definitely think they should make a nice offer to keep Barkley here as the #2. Definitely has the traits that "the process" looks for. They should have just kept McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: They should have just kept McCarron. I think they planned on it... what they didn't plan on was Oakland calling and offering a 5th round pick. McCarron is just another guy, not that difficult to replace, so they traded him and took the extra pick which they can use in the draft on a player or as part of a deal to move around the board. And now they have their replacement for him plus the extra pick. Win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, blacklabel said: I think they planned on it... what they didn't plan on was Oakland calling and offering a 5th round pick. McCarron is just another guy, not that difficult to replace, so they traded him and took the extra pick which they can use in the draft on a player or as part of a deal to move around the board. And now they have their replacement for him plus the extra pick. Win win. Yeah, I mean sure, but what is a 5th rounder though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Well, if Allen is oft injured, then things are not going to plan anyways. Ideally a backup just needs to be in QB meetings etc. I guess, fans should not care so much about backup players IMO. I explained this viewpoint to the Philly Eagles. They glanced at their SB rings and smiled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I explained this viewpoint to the Philly Eagles. They glanced at their SB rings and smiled. Pretty rare case there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Yeah, I mean sure, but what is a 5th rounder though? It's draft capital. McCarron didn't exactly light it up in preseason so it's not like they suffered a major loss in moving him. They gained an extra pick and replaced him with a player on about the same skill level with a cheaper contract. And a 5th rounder could be Kyle Williams... or Matt Milano... or Isiah McKenzie... you never know where you're going to find talent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, WhyteDwarf said: Pretty rare case there... Maybe because all the teams that fall apart when the starting QB goes down, take your viewpoint. But there are other teams that haven't....the Bengals when Dalton went down, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Maybe because all the teams that fall apart when the starting QB goes down, take your viewpoint. But there are other teams that haven't....the Bengals when Dalton went down, for example. Foles really could have went out and got a starting job, but he seems much more laid back in that regard. That's why I think it's rare. Most players in his situation would have demanded a trade etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 It's nice that people are getting emotional and talking about a guy's reaction. Still, that doesn't factor into whether it's best for the team to keep someone. Barkley had one start where, a few weeks before, he was out of the NFL. If he's good enough to mentor Allen and, if necessary backup, then sure, sign him. His celebration on the sideline doesn't matter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 He's the perfect backup to have. I'd extend him now if possible, but it makes sense for him to wait and see if another team will give him a chance to be a bridge guy, or compete for a starting job (ala AJ McCarron this year). I think he has been a huge positive, and from all accounts he is a great guy who is a man of faith and you know how much McDermott loves those. He seems like a good guy to have around for Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Nice! Very great to see. And overall, since McD has been the coach, the team spirit has been awesome. With the 3 blowout in a row last year, and the "out of the playoff race in October" this year, it's not a given or easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Retaining Barkley as the backup is a no-brainer to me if Daboll is the OC next season. If I'm the Bills, I try not to outthink the room on this one. With the abandon Allen plays with, it's likely Barkley will see some playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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