Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) tweeted: When the Senate convenes next week, @ChrisCoons and I will ask for unanimous consent to bring S.2644, the Special Counsel Independence and Integrity Act, to a vote on the Senate floor. After the firing of The AG, it is more important than ever to protect the Special Counsel. — Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) November 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Trump’s appointment of Matthew G. Whitaker looks even worse as conservative lawyers like John Yoo weigh in: “The Constitution says that principal officers must go through appointment with the advice and consent of the Senate. In Morrison v. Olson, the Supreme Court made clear that the Attorney General is a principal officer. Therefore, Whittaker cannot serve as acting Attorney General despite the Vacancies Act (which does provide for him to be acting AG) — the statute is unconstitutional when applied in this way.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump’s appointment of Matthew G. Whitaker looks even worse as conservative lawyers like John Yoo weigh in: “The Constitution says that principal officers must go through appointment with the advice and consent of the Senate. In Morrison v. Olson, the Supreme Court made clear that the Attorney General is a principal officer. Therefore, Whittaker cannot serve as acting Attorney General despite the Vacancies Act (which does provide for him to be acting AG) — the statute is unconstitutional when applied in this way.” Complete and utter *****. Acting principal officers have never been required to be approved by the Senate before. For example: Kathleen McGettian was a 25-year government employee, named as the acting OPM director without any Senate hearing or confirmation. Several other OPM acting directors were named from the OPM General Counsel role, which is not Senate approved either. Nobody complained then...because a Senate hearing has never been required for an "acting" position. This is nothing more than people looking for any reason to complain about Trump just because he's Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Complete and utter *****. Acting principal officers have never been required to be approved by the Senate before. For example: Kathleen McGettian was a 25-year government employee, named as the acting OPM director without any Senate hearing or confirmation. Several other OPM acting directors were named from the OPM General Counsel role, which is not Senate approved either. Nobody complained then...because a Senate hearing has never been required for an "acting" position. This is nothing more than people looking for any reason to complain about Trump just because he's Trump. You will say anything to defend a Republican. Nobody said anything then because OPM is no where near as important as the chief law enforcement officer in the nation. This is as corrupt as the day is long. But continue on with your "They are picking on my Trump" garbage, its pretty funny to read! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You will say anything to defend a Republican. Nobody said anything then because OPM is no where near as important as the chief law enforcement officer in the nation. This is as corrupt as the day is long. But continue on with your "They are picking on my Trump" garbage, its pretty funny to read! ? Cite one instance where an 'acting' principle officer has ever needed Senate confirmation to be an acting principle officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Complete and utter *****. Acting principal officers have never been required to be approved by the Senate before. For example: Kathleen McGettian was a 25-year government employee, named as the acting OPM director without any Senate hearing or confirmation. Several other OPM acting directors were named from the OPM General Counsel role, which is not Senate approved either. Nobody complained then...because a Senate hearing has never been required for an "acting" position. This is nothing more than people looking for any reason to complain about Trump just because he's Trump. Whitaker scares the pants off them. As he should. Thinking he's going to be the pick in the end. They'll keep parading Christie and Rudy and other nominees for the next week to keep people guessing, but they're all going to be false leads for the media to freak out about. Pain coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Cite one instance where an 'acting' principle officer has ever needed Senate confirmation to be an acting principle officer. From the article I posted earlier: Quote If you don’t believe us, then take it from Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, whom Mr. Trump once called his “favorite” sitting justice. Last year, the Supreme Court examined the question of whether the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board had been lawfully appointed to his job without Senate confirmation. The Supreme Court held the appointment invalid on a statutory ground. Justice Thomas agreed with the judgment, but wrote separately to emphasize that even if the statute had allowed the appointment, the Constitution’s Appointments Clause would not have. The officer in question was a principal officer, he concluded. And the public interest protected by the Appointments Clause was a critical one: The Constitution’s drafters, Justice Thomas argued, “recognized the serious risk for abuse and corruption posed by permitting one person to fill every office in the government.” Which is why, he pointed out, the framers provided for advice and consent of the Senate. But I suppose KoKo wants to hide behind the fact this guy is just "acting" but that won't hold water. He's Trump's choice and can't act on this without confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: From the article I posted earlier: But I suppose KoKo wants to hide behind the fact this guy is just "acting" but that won't hold water. He's Trump's choice and can't act on this without confirmation. He sure can. For 200+ days. Get ready for what's about to hit. It won't be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: He sure can. For 200+ days. Get ready for what's about to hit. It won't be pretty. It won't work. Criminal Trump will face justice one way or another. Even if he gets away with this for awhile, he will still be facing criminal prosecution when he leaves office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It won't work. Criminal Trump will face justice one way or another. Even if he gets away with this for awhile, he will still be facing criminal prosecution when he leaves office We'll revisit this post in 2024. I have a feeling it will end up being as incorrect as your claims he would be removed from office before 2020 for conspiring to steal the election with Putin, or my claim that HRC would win the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: We'll revisit this post in 2024. I have a feeling it will end up being as incorrect as your claims he would be removed from office before 2020 for conspiring to steal the election with Putin, or my claim that HRC would win the election. I have always known an impeachment is impossible. I mean impeachment AND conviction ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Get ready for what's about to hit. It won't be pretty. You've been saying this since the imminent memo almost a year ago. Life has been pretty since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, peace out said: You've been saying this since the imminent memo almost a year ago. Life has been pretty since. You're not paying close enough attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're not paying close enough attention. Actually, he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Was this guy the Robert E Lee statue that got taken down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), who is poised to take control of the House Judiciary Committee in January, said Sunday that he plans to call acting attorney general Matthew G. Whitaker as his first witness. The hearing would focus on Whitaker’s “expressed hostility” to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation, which Nadler called “a real threat to the integrity of that investigation.” The Democrat said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that he is prepared to subpoena Whitaker if necessary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nadler-whitaker-will-be-first-witness-summoned-by-the-judiciary-committee/2018/11/11/d5ad40ac-e5bf-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.79cdc6a8f891 If this corrupt clown refuses to recuse himself the Democrats should impeach him and throw it over into the senate for a trial. Let the Republicans vote against getting rid of a corrupt, unqualified fool who has obviously been appointed to do the illegal bidding of this president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 How can they impeach him? I thought the dipschiff lefty narrative was currently that he cannot be the Acting AG, because he wasn't confirmed by the Senate... to be the Acting AG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Doesn’t Whitaker know? You don’t have to show up if called............................. Dems taught me that. Of course if he is called, I have little doubt that he will go and look professional, while the dem "representatives" cry like selfish children . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Tiberius said: Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), who is poised to take control of the House Judiciary Committee in January, said Sunday that he plans to call acting attorney general Matthew G. Whitaker as his first witness. The hearing would focus on Whitaker’s “expressed hostility” to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation, which Nadler called “a real threat to the integrity of that investigation.” The Democrat said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that he is prepared to subpoena Whitaker if necessary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nadler-whitaker-will-be-first-witness-summoned-by-the-judiciary-committee/2018/11/11/d5ad40ac-e5bf-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.79cdc6a8f891 If this corrupt clown refuses to recuse himself the Democrats should impeach him and throw it over into the senate for a trial. Let the Republicans vote against getting rid of a corrupt, unqualified fool who has obviously been appointed to do the illegal bidding of this president. Notice that the article doesn't include what the writer or what Nadler sees as the critical comments made by Whitaker about the investigation. Could it be that the comments by Whitaker might be viewed as constructive criticism or fair concerns of the investigation rather than "hostility" by readers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Tiberius said: If this corrupt clown refuses to recuse himself the Democrats should impeach him and throw it over into the senate for a trial. Let the Republicans vote against getting rid of a corrupt, unqualified fool who has obviously been appointed to do the illegal bidding of this president. You want the House to impeach the guy who you say is illegally appointed to an acting position because he wasn't approved by the Senate according to a ruling against the NLRB you don't even understand? Has anyone noticed gatorman has actually gotten more emotional and incoherent since the midterms? I didn't think it was possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Notice that the article doesn't include what the writer or what Nadler sees as the critical comments made by Whitaker about the investigation. Could it be that the comments by Whitaker might be viewed as constructive criticism or fair concerns of the investigation rather than "hostility" by readers? Whitaker ran the leak operation for Sessions. This hasn't been reported but is confirmed. He wrote the Wolfe indictment himself. Whitaker knows everything the House and Senate committees have been up to re the investigations. That's why they're terrified of him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Adam Schiff says if the acting attorney general doesn’t recuse himself from the Mueller probe, he’ll have to answer to Democrats. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Adam Schiff says if the acting attorney general doesn’t recuse himself from the Mueller probe, he’ll have to answer to Democrats. . Actually answering to Democrats publicly might be a welcomed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Adam Schiff says if the acting attorney general doesn’t recuse himself from the Mueller probe, he’ll have to answer to Democrats. . This time they won't fool around. They'll find a woman to testify he gave her cooties in secind grade. The gloves are off, *****! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Adam Schiff says if the acting attorney general doesn’t recuse himself from the Mueller probe, he’ll have to answer to Democrats. .Simple two word reply. F U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Wacka said: .Simple two word reply. F U I got a better two word reply: "You're indicted" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 When did resigning and getting fired become the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Kemp said: When did resigning and getting fired become the same thing? "Asked to resign." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Kemp said: When did resigning and getting fired become the same thing? forced resignation = firing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 hours ago, B-Man said: Adam Schiff says if the acting attorney general doesn’t recuse himself from the Mueller probe, he’ll have to answer to Democrats. Schumer has already promised to put "protections" for Mueller's investigation into the next "must pass" spending bill. He's betting he won't be blamed for this shutdown, unlike the last one. That spineless weasel still hasn't figured out that Trump has brass balls and isn't afraid to call a bluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 8:20 PM, DC Tom said: You want the House to impeach the guy who you say is illegally appointed to an acting position because he wasn't approved by the Senate according to a ruling against the NLRB you don't even understand? Has anyone noticed gatorman has actually gotten more emotional and incoherent since the midterms? I didn't think it was possible. Weak argument, but what else have you got? Nothing. You are the one that has gotten more emotional and incoherent since Trump. I liked the old Tom, who wasn't afraid to point out how incompetent Trump was. You are suffering from Batter Republican Syndrome. He abuses your stupid ass but you keep coming back to defend him.. Ya, rubber glue, I know sh it breath, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Man the headlines this morning make you wonder what everyone is so afraid of by the linebacker AG. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 8:09 PM, keepthefaith said: Notice that the article doesn't include what the writer or what Nadler sees as the critical comments made by Whitaker about the investigation. Could it be that the comments by Whitaker might be viewed as constructive criticism or fair concerns of the investigation rather than "hostility" by readers? LOL, ya right, un vetted, unapproved and his only qualification is he hates what Trump is afraid of. This is outright and open corruption. This is like Venezuala style government. You can't pick your own prosector in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 NPC talking points went out strong and bold faced. And clearly with small words being the Tibs can reiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: LOL, ya right, un vetted, unapproved and his only qualification is he hates what Trump is afraid of. This is outright and open corruption. This is like Venezuala style government. You can't pick your own prosector in the USA. From your favorite media outlet, the NY Times. They make the legal temporary argument for Whitaker. In the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998, Congress elaborated on those missing pieces. When a senior executive branch officer “dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office,” the statute authorizes the president to choose either that official’s “first assistant” (in this case, Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein); any other currently serving government officer who was confirmed by the Senate; or any senior official, like Mr. Whitaker, who served in the same department as the vacant office for at least 90 of the previous 365 days “to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity.” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/opinion/trump-attorney-general-constitutional.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Weak argument, but what else have you got? Nothing. You are the one that has gotten more emotional and incoherent since Trump. I liked the old Tom, who wasn't afraid to point out how incompetent Trump was. You are suffering from Batter Republican Syndrome. He abuses your stupid ass but you keep coming back to defend him.. Ya, rubber glue, I know sh it breath, I know. You mad bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: From your favorite media outlet, the NY Times. They make the legal temporary argument for Whitaker. In the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998, Congress elaborated on those missing pieces. When a senior executive branch officer “dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office,” the statute authorizes the president to choose either that official’s “first assistant” (in this case, Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein); any other currently serving government officer who was confirmed by the Senate; or any senior official, like Mr. Whitaker, who served in the same department as the vacant office for at least 90 of the previous 365 days “to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity.” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/opinion/trump-attorney-general-constitutional.html Not for corrupt purposes, which this obviously is. He is there to go after the investigation of Trump. Totally corrupt, only Trump Cultists think otherwise. If this clown interferes with the investigation in any way at all, he is going to jail. 24 minutes ago, westside said: You mad bro? Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Weak argument, but what else have you got? Nothing. You are the one that has gotten more emotional and incoherent since Trump. I liked the old Tom, who wasn't afraid to point out how incompetent Trump was. You are suffering from Batter Republican Syndrome. He abuses your stupid ass but you keep coming back to defend him.. Ya, rubber glue, I know sh it breath, I know. I have a hard time believing you about liking the "old Tom" but I'm convinced that you enjoy Republican batter. Not sure where though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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