College Basketball 2018-19

[Mark Vader]

On 11/13/2018 at 4:21 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Trust me, Beilein would love to land those 5* recruits consistently.  He can’t.  It’s not a choice.  Very few coaches/teams can pull that off.  I have always admired John as a coach, however, as his teams always seem to be very tough...mentally and physically.

And boy were they ever so tough tonight!

 

Going on the road in a hostile environment and taking Villanova to the woodshed, 73-46.

 

The Wolverines dominated in the paint and were masterful on defense. What a turnaround after a sluggish performance against Holy Cross.

 

This was a huge confidence booster for this team.

[Nervous Guy]

3 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

And boy were they ever so tough tonight!

 

Going on the road in a hostile environment and taking Villanova to the woodshed, 73-46.

 

The Wolverines dominated in the paint and were masterful on defense. What a turnaround after a sluggish performance against Holy Cross.

 

This was a huge confidence booster for this team.

I tuned in at halftime....I couldn't believe the score, 44-17!!  WHA????  I kept waiting for Nova to make a run in the second half.  Nope...the dominance was complete.  Certainly surprised me.

[eball]

Yup, UM-Nova was one of those early season eye-openers.

 

My Heels have to play at Michigan on 11/28 in the ACC/B1G Challenge -- that is going to be a tough one and should be a great ballgame.

 

Edit:  and I just checked UNC's overall schedule -- holy cow.  Nobody can say Roy only schedules cupcakes.  Over the next month and a half (before the league season starts) they will play Texas, Michigan State or UCLA, Michigan, Gonzaga, and Kentucky.  Their "breaks" come against Davidson and Harvard.

 

Edited November 15, 2018 by eball

[Gordio]

8 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

And boy were they ever so tough tonight!

 

Going on the road in a hostile environment and taking Villanova to the woodshed, 73-46.

 

The Wolverines dominated in the paint and were masterful on defense. What a turnaround after a sluggish performance against Holy Cross.

 

This was a huge confidence booster for this team.

 

 

Good win for Michigan last night, Villanova is a bit overrated this year though at least early in the season.  Jay Wright doesn't have the back court & experience has had enjoyed the last several years with Brunson & Bridges leaving last year.  That is about 40 points of offense from your back court that they are missing this year.  

[Mark Vader]

6 hours ago, Nervous Guy said:

I tuned in at halftime....I couldn't believe the score, 44-17!!  WHA????  I kept waiting for Nova to make a run in the second half.  Nope...the dominance was complete.  Certainly surprised me.

Too bad you missed the first half. Charles Matthews had a helluva game. I couldn't believe how many points in the paint they had.

 

Especially with Beilein's approach of having a big perimeter game with a lot of 3 point shooting. Like I said earlier, Michigan's defense was dominant last night. I know this is not the same Villanova team that won it all last season, but this was a big win for the Wolverines.

[Nervous Guy]

4 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Too bad you missed the first half. Charles Matthews had a helluva game. I couldn't believe how many points in the paint they had.

 

Especially with Beilein's approach of having a big perimeter game with a lot of 3 point shooting. Like I said earlier, Michigan's defense was dominant last night. I know this is not the same Villanova team that won it all last season, but this was a big win for the Wolverines.

I discovered I DRV'ed it...so I'll watch the 1st half!   21 turnovers by Villanova is a testament to that D!  In all fairness, it's also not the same Michigan team.  I wonder how much they will jump from #18?

 

5 hours ago, Gordio said:

 

 

Good win for Michigan last night, Villanova is a bit overrated this year though at least early in the season.  Jay Wright doesn't have the back court & experience has had enjoyed the last several years with Brunson & Bridges leaving last year.  That is about 40 points of offense from your back court that they are missing this year.  

Not to mention what that bastard DiVencenzo did in that championship game....grumble, grumble....31 freakin points.

[Mark Vader]

Michigan goes to 5-0 after winning the Naismith Memorial Tournament in Connecticut.

 

Beating George Washington & Providence is not the same as beating Kansas & Duke, but once again they won in dominant fashion. The Wolverines defense is just shutting down their opponents.

 

Chattanooga is next followed by the big one against North Carolina.

[row_33]

17 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Michigan goes to 5-0 after winning the Naismith Memorial Tournament in Connecticut.

 

Beating George Washington & Providence is not the same as beating Kansas & Duke, but once again they won in dominant fashion. The Wolverines defense is just shutting down their opponents.

 

Chattanooga is next followed by the big one against North Carolina.

 

any decent respectable top conference team has risked at least 2 games against a Duke or Kansas by now....

 

 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

any decent respectable top conference team has risked at least 2 games against a Duke or Kansas by now....

 

 

Villanova.....Check.

 

North Carolina.....Upcoming.

[row_33]

54 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Villanova.....Check.

 

North Carolina.....Upcoming.

 

they will do fine, it's the mid-majors that play nobody and get the higher March seeds at the expense of real teams that play each other in pre-conference tournaments and daredevil exhibition games

 

 

 

wish we could force all top football teams to have to play "anybody decent" early on

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

[row_33]

First game of the season with Bill Walton calling it tonight, all is right.

 

 

[Buffalo716]

7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I don’t think UB should be taking shots at SU and Boeheim ...

 

thats 1000 wins , Big east Champions, National Champions, coming off a sweet 16... 

 

and UB has never beaten SU in Syracuse 

 

They also are playing without their starting PG... they should probably troll Miami OH 

 

not a traditional power that is trying to find its way rn ... UB would kill to recruit the kids Boeheim lands, I wouldn’t be giving them bulletin board material 

Edited November 20, 2018 by Buffalo716

[PromoTheRobot]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don’t think UB should be taking shots at SU and Boeheim ...

 

thats 1000 wins , Big east Champions, National Champions, coming off a sweet 16... 

 

and UB has never beaten SU in Syracuse 

 

They also are playing without their starting PG... they should probably troll Miami OH 

 

not a traditional power that is trying to find its way rn ... UB would kill to recruit the kids Boeheim lands, I wouldn’t be giving them bulletin board material 

 

Oh, can't we have a little gloat? How often does this happen?

[Buffalo716]

24 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Oh, can't we have a little gloat? How often does this happen?

I fully agree ?. Every moment should be soaked in and they absolutely can make a run in March

 

i just think you gotta know when to take your shot... if they pulled out of the carrier dome with a W and did this , it would have more weight

 

than if they lost in a few weeks... SU has a good team that is struggling... but they have the whole sweet 16 squad back 

[Gordio]

On ‎11‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 4:48 PM, Nervous Guy said:

I discovered I DRV'ed it...so I'll watch the 1st half!   21 turnovers by Villanova is a testament to that D!  In all fairness, it's also not the same Michigan team.  I wonder how much they will jump from #18?

 

Not to mention what that bastard DiVencenzo did in that championship game....grumble, grumble....31 freakin points.

 

 

Villanova loss to Furman last week.  Like I said, good defense or not, Wright's team is not nearly as stacked as it has been the past 4-5 years.  A biiger test for UM will be when the heels come rolling into town.  

[eball]

12 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I fully agree ?. Every moment should be soaked in and they absolutely can make a run in March

 

i just think you gotta know when to take your shot... if they pulled out of the carrier dome with a W and did this , it would have more weight

 

than if they lost in a few weeks... SU has a good team that is struggling... but they have the whole sweet 16 squad back 

 

And UB has basically the team that throttled Arizona in the tourney last year, and has one of the best wins of this young season.  I can't wait for that UB/Cuse game.

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

And UB has basically the team that throttled Arizona in the tourney last year, and has one of the best wins of this young season.  I can't wait for that UB/Cuse game.

For sure they do , they also have the same team that lost to Syracuse last year which is why I originally said they shouldn’t be taking shots at them until they win

[Augie]

The Maui Invitational field is just jam packed with stud teams. Three top 10 teams and good depth too. 

 

 

Who is going to beat Duke???

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

The Maui Invitational field is just jam packed with stud teams. Three top 10 teams and good depth too. 

 

 

Who is going to beat Duke???

Someone nobody expects 

[PromoTheRobot]

41 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

For sure they do , they also have the same team that lost to Syracuse last year which is why I originally said they shouldn’t be taking shots at them until they win

 

Normally I wouldn't be talking smack. But I think it's great if someone challenges Syracuse for basketball dominance in NYS.  How great would it be for UB and SU to play every year and make it a rivalry game? Of course they'd have to come to the Key Bank Center once in a while. Not exactly a rivalry if we only play in their building.

[eball]

29 minutes ago, Augie said:

The Maui Invitational field is just jam packed with stud teams. Three top 10 teams and good depth too. 

 

 

Who is going to beat Duke???

 

Sadly, probably only themselves.

[Buffalo716]

20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Normally I wouldn't be talking smack. But I think it's great if someone challenges Syracuse for basketball dominance in NYS.  How great would it be for UB and SU to play every year and make it a rivalry game? Of course they'd have to come to the Key Bank Center once in a while. Not exactly a rivalry if we only play in their building.

 

I think it would be awesome for basketball in the state of NY 

 

but dont get get your hopes up about Boeheim coming to Buffalo for a game... it will NEVER happen while he’s HC

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

I think it would be awesome for basketball in the state of NY 

 

but dont get get your hopes up about Boeheim coming to Buffalo for a game... it will NEVER happen while he’s HC

 

Also UB gets paid a fat check for playing at the Carrier Dome. Not sure they'd give that up easily.  You think SU & UB at the Key Bank Center would sell out? 20K?

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Also UB gets paid a fat check for playing at the Carrier Dome. Not sure they'd give that up easily.  You think SU & UB at the Key Bank Center would sell out? 20K?

If UB came in ranked or with a talented team it certainly could because SU travels!

 

but in the immortal words of Jim Boeheim “ Maui? Why would I go to Maui when I have Syracuse?”

 

he would play 35 home games if he could ?

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Duke is mortal.

[eball]

9 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Duke is mortal.

 

The Zags are legit.  I didn't even know when that game was being played and turned on ESPN last night just as they were showing Gonzaga celebrating with the trophy.  I see that Dook was behind by as many as 16 in the 2nd half before storming back and having multiple chances to tie or take the lead.  These teams are both legit final four picks -- I'd be surprised to see either not make it.

 

At least Dook won't go undefeated now, so I can take some solace in that.  UNC plays Gonzaga on 12/15 so that will be a nice measuring stick to see where the Heels are.  Of course, they'll have played Michigan State or UCLA and Michigan by then, so they might already have a couple of Ls.

[row_33]

9 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Duke is mortal.

 

I see Grant Hill will be the first HoF inductee from the Coach K era

 

that’s an indictment on the last three decades of college hoops in many many ways

 

 

[bbb]

On 11/20/2018 at 3:01 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Normally I wouldn't be talking smack. But I think it's great if someone challenges Syracuse for basketball dominance in NYS.  How great would it be for UB and SU to play every year and make it a rivalry game? Of course they'd have to come to the Key Bank Center once in a while. Not exactly a rivalry if we only play in their building.

 

On 11/20/2018 at 3:23 PM, Buffalo716 said:

 

I think it would be awesome for basketball in the state of NY 

 

but dont get get your hopes up about Boeheim coming to Buffalo for a game... it will NEVER happen while he’s HC

 

Exactly.  He won't even play Bona in Rochester, even though that was 75% SU at least. 

[eball]

Damn, the Heels always have trouble with Texas.  Oh well -- nice to see the frosh Coby White throw in 32 though.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

9 hours ago, bbb said:

 

 

Exactly.  He won't even play Bona in Rochester, even though that was 75% SU at least. 

 

Would Duke play App State on the road prior to conference play?  Would Texas play Prairie View A&M on the road?  Of course they wouldn’t.  Major college programs don’t play scrap teams on the road out of conference.  Plus, team like Buffalo and Bona get PAID to play in Syracuse.  Boeheim is doing these teams a favor.  Stop the madness.

[bbb]

20 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Would Duke play App State on the road prior to conference play?  Would Texas play Prairie View A&M on the road?  Of course they wouldn’t.  Major college programs don’t play scrap teams on the road out of conference.  Plus, team like Buffalo and Bona get PAID to play in Syracuse.  Boeheim is doing these teams a favor.  Stop the madness.

 

Syracuse played Bona home and home for years until Boeheim wimped out. 

 

Just found this on syracuse.com:

 

46. at St. Bonaventure, 71-59, Dec. 12, 1984

Once upon a time, the rivalry between Syracuse and St. Bonaventure ran as hot as any other. Syracuse’s trips to play at the Reilly Center in Olean were particularly unpleasant. After SU’s win over the Bonnies at the Reilly Center in 1984, Boeheim vowed to never to return to Olean. He’s kept his promise.

 

 

Take your comparisons of App State and go pound sand, as you would say. 

Edited November 23, 2018 by bbb

[Johnny Hammersticks]

4 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

Syracuse played Bona home and home for years until Boeheim wimped out. 

 

Just found this on syracuse.com:

 

46. at St. Bonaventure, 71-59, Dec. 12, 1984

Once upon a time, the rivalry between Syracuse and St. Bonaventure ran as hot as any other. Syracuse’s trips to play at the Reilly Center in Olean were particularly unpleasant. After SU’s win over the Bonnies at the Reilly Center in 1984, Boeheim vowed to never to return to Olean. He’s kept his promise.

 

 

Take your comparisons of App State and go pound sand, as you would say. 

 

Prior to last season’s anomaly, the last time Bona beat Syracuse was in January 1981.  I was 1.  I’m turning 40 in February.  Take your competitive match-up nonsense and go kick rocks ?

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

Syracuse played Bona home and home for years until Boeheim wimped out. 

 

 

46. at St. Bonaventure, 71-59, Dec. 12, 1984

Once upon a time, the rivalry between Syracuse and St. Bonaventure ran as hot as any other. Syracuse’s trips to play at the Reilly Center in Olean were particularly unpleasant. After SU’s win over the Bonnies at the Reilly Center in 1984, Boeheim vowed to never to return to Olean. He’s kept his promise.

 

 

Take your comparisons of App State and go pound sand, as you would say. 

I wouldn’t take it personal. What happened in the 80s doesn’t happen in college ball anymore 

 

hammer isn’t trying to be a dick. College Powers don’t go on the road in non conference to mid majors

 

Bonnie’s , UB have built really good programs as mid majors but they are still mid majors

 

UB wouldn’t have the same success in the ACC. Though they’d still win games 

[row_33]

top programs square off against each other in pre-conference tournies all the time

 

i've watched a least a dozen games of potential Sweet 16 teams so far, loving it!!!

 

 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

4 hours ago, row_33 said:

top programs square off against each other in pre-conference tournies all the time

 

i've watched a least a dozen games of potential Sweet 16 teams so far, loving it!!!

 

 

 

This Texas v Sparty game is pretty good.

[Augie]

After listening to Bill Walton for 3 straight days, even Jay Bilas is a relief. 

[row_33]

34 minutes ago, Augie said:

After listening to Bill Walton for 3 straight days, even Jay Bilas is a relief. 

 

Two games in a week is almost too much for Walton’s biggest fans

 

 

[Augie]

47 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Two games in a week is almost too much for Walton’s biggest fans

 

 

 

Is he married? Does his wife have the gift (or curse?) of hearing? 

[bbb]

13 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Prior to last season’s anomaly, the last time Bona beat Syracuse was in January 1981.  I was 1.  I’m turning 40 in February.  Take your competitive match-up nonsense and go kick rocks ?

 

What are you talking about?