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6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Good talk.?

 

It's similar to dealing with a toddler -- you wait until the kicking and screaming stops before you attempt a conversation.

 

I'm guessing your Chicken Little act will continue well into 2019.

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

That's not what I said at all.

 

Let me ask you a question, would you have given Rex another year for the sake of continuity and not starting again?

 

Why do these guys get more time for the mess of a roster that THEY created? 

 

 

 

How is that not what you said?

 

You said you would fire everyone, and then said you had no idea what you would do after that beyond not doing what was being done before. If I misread that, feel free to clarify,  but you're literally advocating for an 18-month window for creating a successful NFL team. If your team isn't successful in 18 months, start over again.

 

That said, in my mind, comparing Rex to McBeane is apples/oranges because, to me, Rex was an *****-in-seats-now hire and McBeane is a long play. Rex was a messy manager, and McBeane is more purposeful. That doesn't mean they don't make bad choices (i.e. McCarron), but it seems amazing to me that smart fans are unable to digest that the Bills are still a work in progress, and McBeane simply hasn't been in place long enough to show their work properly.

 

I would also add this, though not directed specifically at you: in addition to how tiresome it is here to read lazy minds calling for everyone to be fired after 18 months, it is especially tiresome to hear people mock 'the process.' Any thinking person can tell you that finding success in something with multiple moving parts demands a process. Building a car, running a company, writing software...it all demands a process, and to mock the mantra of "trust the process" is, to me, the laziest of all criticism. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Eh... you forgot ownership. I don't want to fully accuse the coaching staff, really, it's just the HC if it.

 

I have no qualms about saying segments of the fanbase are racist. But you did, what most Bills fans do and lumped everyone together and used this as your identity.

 

So it hurts you. Someone else calls a Bills fan a racist, and I'd be like whatever. I know who I am. I think when it gets shown, you don't like it because the racists, they are always the ones who are sensitive to that.

 

So something about stones or whatnot. Such a B1LLZ MAFIA bro!!! Thing to say, go jump through a flaming table.

applaud this man!

 

but yea, that Mullens dude played a good game, and was really fun to watch

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27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Not sure I'm qualified. 

 

But I'm not sure McBeane are either considering some of the personnel moves made by them that fans on this very message board knew were mistakes.

 

seem to know more than I but I agree it appears they were mistaken at the position that if not corrected or if allen were not to pan out, could prove costly to their young career(s).

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11 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

 

 

Nathan Peterman was a waste of a fifth round draft pick in 2017 -- the Bills could have easily signed an UDFA QB to play as poorly as Peterman has. 

I usually agree with you, but I take exception to this passage.

 

I think it would have been incredibly difficult to find a legitimate NFL prospect UDFA QB to play as poorly as Peterman!

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6 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

welp, at least we all now know what the B stands for...

It's kind of ironic, given the subject matter, that you don't know what his screen name is referencing.

5 hours ago, Fixxxer said:

If we don't send a 1st round pick and a 4th round pick right now, for "Rob" Mullens, this FO and franchise will be doomed forever. I don't care if we're past the trade deadline. Make it happen, McD!

Hey Terry, frack some hole for free to make it happen, do something, you paraquat.

At this point, I'd take Chris "Mullens." I understand it's Chris Mullin, but given the boards history of odd and consistent misspelling of names like MahoMMes, Deboll, Eric WoodS, offense OF line etc., it still works.

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1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

he's much better than you'd expect from a 2-7 team...

 

Backup QBs with no pro film have an upstart game like this fairly regularly. He played well, I'm not taking that away from him. But Shanahan helped him a lot in how he schemed his receivers to get open and then Oakland just rolled over. His first or second TD pass, the dude was wide open and walked into the end zone. Aikman pointed out during the game how the Raiders weren't staying in their zones, guys were just doing whatever they wanted it seemed. 

 

Tell you what though, gimme that George Kittle dude over ol' Charles Clay any day of the week. I like Clay, I just think he's limited due to his injury history. Kittle made an insane one-handed catch over the middle then took it another 50-60 yards to the 5-yard line.

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Seems like the Niners have been able to plug in no-name guys like Beathard and now Mullens.  What have they gotten, 11 or 12 TD passes between those guys?  That is really respectable production and obviously way better than what Buffalo has been able to do...   I give the QB's most of the credit and Shanahan for putting their scheme together.   

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To understand Mullens you have to know the backstory at Southern Miss. I live near Hattiesburg and my daughter is a student there so I follow them a lot. They have traditionally been a mid-major power in Conference USA. Larry Fedora was the coach from 08-11 and had some really good seasons but was always looking for a better job. The rumor was his last year in 2011, he had already made a deal with UNC to become their head coach so he was actually recruiting players for UNC while at Southern Miss. When he left Southern Miss the cupboard was obviously bare and they went from 11-2 in 2011 to 0-12 and 1-11 in 2012-13. Mullens was a freshman in 2013 and the team was terrible but there was some NFL talent there. It was easy to see that he had real potential to be a good NFL QB but he was buried on horrible teams. They rebounded and had 9-5 and 7-6 seasons his junior and senior years. If Fedora had not done what he did to Southern Miss, Mullens would have been a much higher profile player even though in his 44 games there he threw for 12,000 yards and 87 TD's.

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50 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 Any thinking person can tell you that finding success in something with multiple moving parts demands a process. Building a car, running a company, writing software...it all demands a process, and to mock the mantra of "trust the process" is, to me, the laziest of all criticism. 

 

 

 

If I see someone building a car, and the engine explodes, I'm gonna at least have to start questioning what the finished product will look like.

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1 hour ago, QCity said:

 

It's similar to dealing with a toddler -- you wait until the kicking and screaming stops before you attempt a conversation.

 

I'm guessing your Chicken Little act will continue well into 2019.

 

You know, I think you were actually making a decent continuity point up until you decided to be arrogant, talking down, and decided you weren't going to make the point. 

 

At least I gave you the benefit of that being the point you were making. Even if I don't necessarily agree with it, it's not something anyone could say is wrong. Instead you went this route...

18 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

To understand Mullens you have to know the backstory at Southern Miss. I live near Hattiesburg and my daughter is a student there so I follow them a lot. They have traditionally been a mid-major power in Conference USA. Larry Fedora was the coach from 08-11 and had some really good seasons but was always looking for a better job. The rumor was his last year in 2011, he had already made a deal with UNC to become their head coach so he was actually recruiting players for UNC while at Southern Miss. When he left Southern Miss the cupboard was obviously bare and they went from 11-2 in 2011 to 0-12 and 1-11 in 2012-13. Mullens was a freshman in 2013 and the team was terrible but there was some NFL talent there. It was easy to see that he had real potential to be a good NFL QB but he was buried on horrible teams. They rebounded and had 9-5 and 7-6 seasons his junior and senior years. If Fedora had not done what he did to Southern Miss, Mullens would have been a much higher profile player even though in his 44 games there he threw for 12,000 yards and 87 TD's.

 

And we have Peterman and Anderson on our roster. Like the input, I know they can't have this level of knowledge on every program. But wtf. I'm starting to think they just listen to Mel. Mel loved Peterman, mel loved Allen, Mel (rightfully) loved Tre.

17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I said I don't think it would be detrimental if they did.

 

At this moment in time, I would have no idea who to hire. I would need to do a lot of research and then interviews. I have my own job, right now, I don't have time for that.?

 

If there was a hot shot offensive coordinator/mind available at seasons end I would drop McBeane in a heart beat for him.

 

Rex and McBeane are polar opposites and while yes, I agree Rex was a messy manager, McBeane has demonstrated the same ineptitude and lack of organization, particularly on the offensive side of the ball to this point. 

 

The Bills are an extreme work in progress due to their own, self inflicted decisions that weren't necessary. That's where the main issue lies with McBeane to a lot of fans. 

 

Firing everyone now is an improvement over what they did.

 

They fired the coach, hired a new one without much input from the GM. Then fired the GM the day after the draft, and all the scouts. Then trotted out this ***** about how they were reinventing the NFL calendar. Then hired a GM recommended by the coach. 

 

It makes no sense. Their is no accountability, and no ability to hold any of them accountable. Kim and Terry should step away from the team, and just go be a couple on one of those real housewives shows. They have no clue what they are doing. I gave them time. 

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Before we start pining over the lost opportunity known as Nick Mullens, a guy most of us haven't heard of before yesterday, let's remember he was throwing against the Raiders D. It's the opposite of a black hole. It lets EVERYTHING through. Truly awful; even more incompetent than our incompetent offense. 

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1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:

It's kind of ironic, given the subject matter, that you don't know what his screen name is referencing.

At this point, I'd take Chris "Mullens." I understand it's Chris Mullin, but given the boards history of odd and consistent misspelling of names like MahoMMes, Deboll, Eric WoodS, offense OF line etc., it still works.

well, i'm in my 50's ,so maybe you can enlightened me... i thought the B was for beyatch because that's in line with his posts...kinda self explanatory.

if it's a slang term, the old dirty D bag comes to mind....am i getting warm?

 

is it a famous rapper?  well that's fine.  the takes still suck. i guess that makes old dirty B a multi genre beyatch.

now old dirty dobler i can relate to..go nate!...go bills!

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15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It underscores the sad state of affairs regarding the BIlls' QB situation when a complete unknown matches our team's total TD passes thrown for the season in 1 bleepin' game.  :sick:

I think Beane and McDermott have proven they don't have a clue when it comes to evaluating QBs.

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