BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Per Adam Schefter, Gettleman is cleaning house... Edited October 24, 2018 by BigBuff423 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Nice pickup for the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nice pickup for the Lions. I agree and while some Giants fans are going to whine about not getting more, the salary left on his contract plays a role in return value. Also, while he's one of the best in the league in Run D, that's about where his limit lies. But, for a team that has Offensive players, this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 One of the most underrated players in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Big contract, but worth it. Good for the lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 One little plug for the Lions on this board: Matt Patricia is from Sherrill, NY located just West of Utica / Rome in Central New York. Until they play the Bills, I hope the guy is successful for many years to come. Great to see a local boy make good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Great pick-up for the Lions, former All-Pro. Should show a bunch of people on here what the value of draft picks is compaired to players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: One of the most underrated players in the league. Agreed. I remember thinking when he signed with NYG that $9M/year was absurd for a run-stopping DT, but his ability to push the pocket against the pass has gotten better, and he's justified every bit of that deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jahbonas Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The Bills should be buyers too given their 10 draft picks and extra cap room next year. Not a buyer for a 1 or2 year player but a guy like this at 29 yrs old will play at least 5 more years - only costs a 5th and we have cap to absorb it. I hope we checked into this and should be looking and taking advantage of other salary cap like dumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Edited October 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Would also like to see the Bills do SOMETHING. Not sure if they should be buyers or sellers. But the status quo is mired in goop. If for nothing else, excite the fan base a little and show they are trying. I know we're supposed to be patient, but the tank is on E right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jahbonas Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He is a run stuffer specialist at 6ft 350lbs - Ted Washington type. Last I checked we just gave up 200 yards on the ground and we have a ton of cap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, jahbonas said: He is a run stuffer specialist at 6ft 350lbs - Ted Washington type. Last I checked we just gave up 200 yards on the ground and we have a ton of cap Star was brought to Buffalo to prevent that kind of gashing in the run game. It was shockingly bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Get a Wilfork? Check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Star was brought to Buffalo to prevent that kind of gashing in the run game. It was shockingly bad. Starting to wonder about Beane in this way - when coaches or GMs get their former players its usually a great sign since they are most aware of all they are getting - like when Wade pushed for Ted Washingtom when he first got here. Beane has signed Kelvin Benjamin and Star off of Carolina....neither is performing above expectation...we shoulda had a good book on both of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: One little plug for the Lions on this board: Matt Patricia is from Sherrill, NY located just West of Utica / Rome in Central New York. Until they play the Bills, I hope the guy is successful for many years to come. Great to see a local boy make good. and he went to a great college that most of you can only dream about getting in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Star was brought to Buffalo to prevent that kind of gashing in the run game. It was shockingly bad. I find myself questioning if you watched that game. The big back breaking runs were given up do to loss of containment from our lbs/safeties (big nickle). Not a 300lber that plays smack dab in the midflebof the dline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, entropyrules said: and he went to a great college that most of you can only dream about getting in I'm not really following the purpose behind your statement....? Is it sarcasm to the college he attended? Hard to believe but eh, to each his own Is it insinuating many folks on this message board don't have the mental acumen to stay in an intelligent conversation with him? Possibly... Are you simply trying to run amok an otherwise positive conversation about a former NE coach because you live in NE? Also, an equal possibility... Regardless, please elucidate the context of your statement otherwise, why come onto this board? Just take your ball and go home. Edited October 24, 2018 by BigBuff423 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I'm not really following the purpose behind your statement....? Is it sarcasm to the college he attended? Hard to believe but eh, to each his own Is it insinuating many folks on this message board don't have the mental acumen to stay in an intelligent conversation with him? Possibly... Are you simply trying to run amok an otherwise positive conversation about a former NE coach because you live in NE? Also, an equal possibility... Regardless, please elucidate the context of your statement otherwise, why come onto this board? Just take your ball and go home. I'm just guessing that the poster is intimating that he/she and Patricia share an alma mater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: I find myself questioning if you watched that game. The big back breaking runs were given up do to loss of containment from our lbs/safeties (big nickle). Not a 300lber that plays smack dab in the midflebof the dline. That's what I saw too, Star taking double teams, but a FB or guard getting to our LBs and walling one of them off, while the other one missed his gap assignment. Neither Edmunds or Milano are good at shedding blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I'm just guessing that the poster is intimating that he/she and Patricia share an alma mater That's cool....a point completely flying over my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: That's what I saw too, Star taking double teams, but a FB or guard getting to our LBs and walling one of them off, while the other one missed his gap assignment. Neither Edmunds or Milano are good at shedding blocks. Exhibit A Star dominated by the Center on this play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Exhibit A Star dominated by the Center on this play. If you look though, Star was lined up on the center's right side already, all he had to do was get Star moving right and keep him from getting the RB in the backfield, the LB did not do anything to redirect, he got completely washed out by the guard at the 2nd level. the whole defense was flowing exactly the way the colts wanted them to for the play to work, the only player who went against the grain was Phillips and he needed to keep flowing to his left to close the hole up and redirect the RB. Even if he did, there was nobody home the LBs had already been pushed out of the play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: If you look though, Star was lined up on the center's right side already, all he had to do was get Star moving right and keep him from getting the RB in the backfield, the LB did not do anything to redirect, he got completely washed out by the guard at the 2nd level. the whole defense was flowing exactly the way the colts wanted them to for the play to work, the only player who went against the grain was Phillips and he needed to keep flowing to his left to close the hole up and redirect the RB. Even if he did, there was nobody home the LBs had already been pushed out of the play That's not the only example. Regardless of any other player's responsibility Star was eliminated by a single block on this play that refutes the "eating double teams" talk. It's not the only time it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's not the only example. Regardless of any other player's responsibility Star was eliminated by a single block on this play that refutes the "eating double teams" talk. It's not the only time it happened. I can't go back and cherry pick examples of him taking on double teams, don't have the time, there were 10 other guys out there as well. But I don't want to overly defend him either to be honest. I think that 50 million could have been spent on two competent olinemen instead and we would be better off as a team than with one nose tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: I can't go back and cherry pick examples of him taking on double teams, don't have the time, there were 10 other guys out there as well. But I don't want to overly defend him either to be honest. I think that 50 million could have been spent on two competent olinemen instead and we would be better off as a team than with one nose tackle. Bad day at the office for the entire defense in both the run and passing game. They were dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Bad day at the office for the entire defense in both the run and passing game. They were dominated. No doubt, and it doesn't look better this Monday night, or for the rest of the season for that matter. I want Allen to get his mental reps in and then get back out there and get physical reps too. But I do question the quality of the reps with a sketchy Oline and wrs who can get separation. What is he seeing when he drops back? A pass rush in his face and no open wrs. So he bails out of the pocket and runs. That's not going to help him develop as a passer at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: No doubt, and it doesn't look better this Monday night, or for the rest of the season for that matter. I want Allen to get his mental reps in and then get back out there and get physical reps too. But I do question the quality of the reps with a sketchy Oline and wrs who can get separation. What is he seeing when he drops back? A pass rush in his face and no open wrs. So he bails out of the pocket and runs. That's not going to help him develop as a passer at all. The OL had been decent the last few weeks. Hopefully when he comes back the game will have slowed down for him such that we see additional growth in his development path. Obviously, it's the most important thing that needs to happen this season. Edited October 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: The OL had been decent the last few weeks. Hopefully when he comes back the game will have slowed down for him such that we see additional growth from him. Obviously, it's the most important thing that needs to happen this season. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 This feels a lot like the marcel situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This feels a lot like the marcel situation I don't think Star is ever late to meetings or misses the bus though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bad day at the office for the entire defense in both the run and passing game. They were dominated. I'll take it as the Bills defense just had "one of those days". They'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The Giants are an example of how bad decision-making can cascade through the league and cause consequences to other teams. The Maras stuck Shurmur and Gettleman with Manning for 2018, which was a bad directive. Gettleman passed up on the chance to trade down, acquire picks, and still likely draft a QB of the future - so he could take a running back. Horrible decision when you factor in the opportunity cost. Meanwhile Gettleman’s stubborn idiocy probably cost the Bills the chance to draft Darnold, the consequences of which remain to be seen. And now, the Giants are shedding talent to acquire extra picks to guarantee themselves a top QB prospect in 2019, which they should’ve dealt with in 2018. When you factor in the amount of picks that Gettleman passed up on acquiring, along with the picks he may have to spend to trade up, it’s astounding - deferring the QB decision will cost the Giants like 5-6 draft picks and some quality players. And those are just the consequences to the Giants - as I said above, their stupidity affected other teams such as ours... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'll take it as the Bills defense just had "one of those days". They'll be back. They have to be or we'll be looking at a lot of ugly games for the rest of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'll take it as the Bills defense just had "one of those days". They'll be back. They have far too many of "those days." Very inconsistent unit. Edmunds had a terrible day and Star was not occupying blockers like I'd expect from a 10m/yr space eater. Just bad all around. Our linebackers are going to have to play a lot better if we're going to cover on Monday. I think losing by <14 is how we need to measure success in this game. Edited October 24, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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