keepthefaith Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: What I meant was that the RNC would love a Trump/Clinton re-match. The Clinton/Bernie rematch while 20 other candidates are craving attention would be most entertaining to the right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: She wasn't gonna beat a racist black man, and her campaign was too lazy to beat Trump. But none of that matters. The only thing that matters is what the DNC wants. And they want Hillary. Hillary will have to up her game. Harris has already grabbed the top spot for the party of free stuff with free college and free healthcare and free citizenship. Even Bernie will have a hard time topping that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: When you have nutbag women creating batschiitt crazy music videos for you, it's not surprising your ego makes you think you can be president. He should remain a furry until AOC burns out. There's only room for one chucklehead. He'd be best off going in as the VP candidate in 2020, to increase his national exposure, while the Democrats exploit and expand his contacts/ability to raise massive amounts of cash. He needs to stay away from getting into the mud with the current crop of insane bottom-feeders lining up for the Democrat nod. The extreme leftist bullschiff they're aiming for isn't going to last long. Being a VP candidate keeps him insulated from having to make a record of policy preferences (which can be used against him later), and a loss to Trump doesn't hurt him (as it was the nominee who lost to Trump, not Beto.) That puts him in a prime position to run in 2024, without an incumbent (and severe GOP White House fatigue), if they lose, and puts him in line in 2028 if the Democrats actually manage to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, keepthefaith said: Hillary will have to up her game. Harris has already grabbed the top spot for the party of free stuff with free college and free healthcare and free citizenship. Even Bernie will have a hard time topping that. Before Hillary ups her game, she needs to show everyone she can navigate a flight of stairs. Both up and down, as they have both provided her great challenges. If she can do that, then we need to see her get in a car by herself. if she can do that, she has a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Hillary will have to up her game. Harris has already grabbed the top spot for the party of free stuff with free college and free healthcare and free citizenship. Even Bernie will have a hard time topping that. Hillary will crack the whip and libs will fall into line and write big cheques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: The Clinton/Bernie rematch while 20 other candidates are craving attention would be most entertaining to the right. I don't think they'll make the mistake of running a retread like the R's did in 08/12 and the D's did in 2016. If the third time isn't the charm, it's time to move on. Not really debating merit in this thread as much as trying to provide some information into what the left is thinking. Bernie, Clinton, and Biden are met with groans from every single fellow primary voter I know. They want to beat Trump more than they want to award someone a lifetime achievement award. Not to say they will beat Trump, but they/we don't view these relics as the path to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: I don't think they'll make the mistake of running a retread like the R's did in 08/12 and the D's did in 2016. If the third time isn't the charm, it's time to move on. Not really debating merit in this thread as much as trying to provide some information into what the left is thinking. Bernie, Clinton, and Biden are met with groans from every single fellow primary voter I know. They want to beat Trump more than they want to award someone a lifetime achievement award. Not to say they will beat Trump, but they/we don't view these relics as the path to victory. This will be fun to laugh at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Koko78 said: He'd be best off going in as the VP candidate in 2020, to increase his national exposure, while the Democrats exploit and expand his contacts/ability to raise massive amounts of cash. He needs to stay away from getting into the mud with the current crop of insane bottom-feeders lining up for the Democrat nod. The extreme leftist bullschiff they're aiming for isn't going to last long. Being a VP candidate keeps him insulated from having to make a record of policy preferences (which can be used against him later), and a loss to Trump doesn't hurt him (as it was the nominee who lost to Trump, not Beto.) That puts him in a prime position to run in 2024, without an incumbent (and severe GOP White House fatigue), if they lose, and puts him in line in 2028 if the Democrats actually manage to win. Do you think that's what Tim Kaine thought in 2016? You don't hear his name thrown around because he is tied to a loser. Beto is better off trying and losing on his own, and coming off as "not ready yet". 12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I don't think they'll make the mistake of running a retread like the R's did in 08/12 and the D's did in 2016. If the third time isn't the charm, it's time to move on. Not really debating merit in this thread as much as trying to provide some information into what the left is thinking. Bernie, Clinton, and Biden are met with groans from every single fellow primary voter I know. They want to beat Trump more than they want to award someone a lifetime achievement award. Not to say they will beat Trump, but they/we don't view these relics as the path to victory. I don't think Hillary is coming into this race. But she will throw her support behind someone. Heck, maybe they will agree to make her Secretary of State again. They don't want to make a lifetime achievement award this time. Edited January 28, 2019 by snafu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, snafu said: ... Heck, maybe they will agree to make her Secretary of State again. ... thereby putting the Clinton Foundation back on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Before Hillary ups her game, she needs to show everyone she can navigate a flight of stairs. Both up and down, as they have both provided her great challenges. If she can do that, then we need to see her get in a car by herself. if she can do that, she has a chance. Instead of that I see her being like Stalin in that we get very little random exposure to her. All appearances will be very controlled complete with stadium buddy which will be hard to see under her latest Chairman Mao pantsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, snafu said: Do you think that's what Tim Kaine thought in 2016? You don't hear his name thrown around because he is tied to a loser. Beto is better off trying and losing on his own, and coming off as "not ready yet". Kaine also has a history of policy preferences - something Beto can't be tied to. I'm sure being a white male with a white male name and insufficient loony leftist credentials factors into him not running (yet) more than being Hillary's running mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Instead of that I see her being like Stalin in that we get very little random exposure to her. All appearances will be very controlled complete with stadium buddy which will be hard to see under her latest Chairman Mao pantsuit. I don't recall how coined it, but one of my favorite nicknames for Hillary was "Lady Maopants." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, snafu said: Do you think that's what Tim Kaine thought in 2016? You don't hear his name thrown around because he is tied to a loser. . I'll quibble with this point a bit; you don't hear his name mentioned because he IS a loser. I had a sinking feeling about the election when he got OWNED by Pence in the VP debate. That "safe" choice played a pivotal role in her loss when we're talking about 80k votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Kaine also has a history of policy preferences - something Beto can't be tied to. I'm sure being a white male with a white male name and insufficient loony leftist credentials factors into him not running (yet) more than being Hillary's running mate. Beto's lack of a record helps him now. Attaching himself to a bigger name attaches him to their line of policy, for better or worse. It also solidifies him as a Junior Varsity candidate at this point, and I really don't think he sees himself that way. 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: I'll quibble with this point a bit; you don't hear his name mentioned because he IS a loser. I had a sinking feeling about the election when he got OWNED by Pence in the VP debate. That "safe" choice played a pivotal role in her loss when we're talking about 80k votes. Yeah, Kaine made a lot of his own problems. But my point was more about what a VP candidate thinks about the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, snafu said: Beto's lack of a record helps him now. Attaching himself to a bigger name attaches him to their line of policy, for better or worse. It also solidifies him as a Junior Varsity candidate at this point, and I really don't think he sees himself that way. True, to a certain extent. He can later say that he never subscribed completely to the failed ideas of [whomever], and that he will enact [whatever] policies if elected. The leftists will lap that up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: True, to a certain extent. He can later say that he never subscribed completely to the failed ideas of [whomever], and that he will enact [whatever] policies if elected. The leftists will lap that up. Agreed, but who are we kidding. The leftists and media will lap up anything Beto does. He will really have to ***** himself in a big way for that to turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Gavin Newsome? This archetype worked in Canada maybe they would try it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dante said: Gavin Newsome? This archetype worked in Canada maybe they would try it here. Gavin Newsome would make for an awesome campaign. Kimberly Guillofile would go on every media outlet possible talking about Newsome's and Trump Jr's d*cks And the Republicans could just run clips from Red Dead Redemption 2 as campaign commercials 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Dante said: Gavin Newsome? This archetype worked in Canada maybe they would try it here. Gavin Newsome is a cross-dressing lead singer for a Village People cover band? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Dante said: Gavin Newsome? This archetype worked in Canada maybe they would try it here. He's got to buff up his liberal credentials by ***** up California some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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