CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: No proof it won't either. I agree. Which is why I go by what's been done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: is there a particular player at #1 overall that would be the prize at this stage? Serious question, cause that would be amazing to get another Bruce Smith, but I don't follow college football and assume it'll be in flux until March. there's a few that could be #1 at this point in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: better to have hope then to be a punchbowl pisser your whole life Just sayin Better to have results then live a fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: I agree. Which is why I go by what's been done so far. Which is completely unreliable as an indicator due to: 1) it being the burn year 2) Beane having been here through exactly ONE offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Well, I'd be more excited for #1 because of the potential bounty it would bring in picks. Say we could move from 1 to 3 and pick up a 2020 1, a couple twos and a three. That would be outstanding. That's what I was thinking. A quarterback some poor team at #20 is salivating for to give us the bounty. But I'd rather have the next Bruce Smith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, PetermanThrew5Picks said: That's what I was thinking. A quarterback some poor team at #20 is salivating for to give us the bounty. But I'd rather have the next Bruce Smith! As would I. And that would be Nick Bosa. But, I'm not sure that's the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I'm worried guys like Tre White will get disillusioned. Makes the playoffs in a stellar rookie year. Couldn't make an impact to help win the game if he played like Deion Sanders. It creates a losing culture if Tre White steps on the field knowing he'll lose and there's nothing he can do about it. McDermott obviously valued character very highly in filling this team out. This is when that character needs to shine. People like Tre White etc. need to be leaders and keep everyone on track, working that grind daily trying to improve despite the results. I hope their collective mental toughness is enough to withstand this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Which is completely unreliable as an indicator due to: 1) it being the burn year 2) Beane having been here through exactly ONE offseason So what has actually happened is unreliable but your hope of a better future is fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, mannc said: Thank you. Tear-down rebuilds are not how it’s done in the NFL. Teams rebuild on the fly and it is a league designed for parity. Anyone selling you that we need to tear it down and start over to be good is full of it. If this team goes 1-15 or 0-16 it will be because of incompetence, not as the residue of some grand plan or process. Teams that go from mediocre to playoff runs have legit QB's. The Jags had 6 years of drafting in the top five picks. Even up to last year they were picking in the top 5. That was an overhaul. Bortles was border line bust until he progressed and the Jags got him offensive weapons while adding to their defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 everyone evaluates differently and has different expectations. I for one am trusting the long term process. before a game was played I was treating this season from a "house money" approach. Among my considerations were the realization we lost 3/5 of our OL, we have one of the worst WR groups, dead money galore, the QB situation, and more roster turnover. You don't have to like the plan, but to me, this is all going according to plan. Sure they'd love to overachieve again this year, but to assume that will happen I believe is an error. As is having expectations of a winning season. Complain about the effort and not being competitive... i understand that... I'm just not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: That's what I was thinking. A quarterback some poor team at #20 is salivating for to give us the bounty. But I'd rather have the next Bruce Smith! I dont see any team that would be that desperate for a QB to move up to #1 or 2. Most teams have a QB unless they are going to draft someone to sit behind their aging starter. Never know though.....there may be a QB or a player a team is in love with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsfanAZ said: I dont see any team that would be that desperate for a QB to move up to #1 or 2. Most teams have a QB unless they are going to draft someone to sit behind their aging starter. Never know though.....there may be a QB or a player a team is in love with. I'm hoping the Giants squeeze out too many wins and Eli retires. That team would be like.. Redskins for RGIII desperate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Better to have results then live a fantasy. Results need to be past tense......you must be a blast at the partys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXCOL3 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I'm not upset in the slightest. I had hoped for a good year but let's be real, our team doesn't have a ton of talent. If anything this year I will enjoy most is watching the new crop of player's ( Tre White, Josh Allen, Harrison Phillips, Tremaine Edmunds) and I won't feel as if I'm missing something if I end up missing a game. It is almost liberating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: So what has actually happened is unreliable but your hope of a better future is fact? No, did I say it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) When we made the playoffs last year, I naively thought this may be the beginning of a playoff streak. Then Wood retired and Incognito did whatever he did. Then I looked at our remaining roster. Then I looked at our dead cap money. Then I looked at how little we're spending on this year's players. And then, finally, I embraced more realistic expectations. If Edmunds and Allen both look like emerging stars by the end of this season, I'll be happy regardless of the win total. Edited September 17, 2018 by hondo in seattle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don't mind the losing. I DO mind the blowouts. Vikings spread is 16 points. I've never seen anything like it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Results need to be past tense......you must be a blast at the partys The only person enlightened by excuses is the person making excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: The only person enlightened by excuses is the person making excuses. definately a punch bowl pisser. Please do let me know if your at any of my partys.....I will BMOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: definately a punch bowl pisser. Please do let me know if your at any of my partys.....I will BMOB Jokes on you, we're here to talk about the Bills. I'm not drafting players. I don't sign free agents. I know it's easier for dreamers to blame someone. I actually feel sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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