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Do we need to go after a fairly proven deep threat?


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27 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Like I already said: "Highly doubtful with not enough good players." 

 

Here's a link that shows the NFL WR corp for each team, ranking them from worst to first.  It's from May, but still gets my point across.  There will be some good WRs cut.  Happens every year.  Maybe not "name" guys, but guys that can play.  Buffalo is at 32.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2777814-ranking-every-nfl-receiving-corps-heading-into-the-2018-season

 

 

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4 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

Here's a link that shows the NFL WR core for each team, ranking them from worst to first.  It's from May, but still gets my point across.  There will be some good WRs cut.  Happens every year.  Maybe not "name" guys, but guys that can play.  Buffalo is at 32.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2777814-ranking-every-nfl-receiving-corps-heading-into-the-2018-season

 

That doesn't mean much.  There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL.  BTW it's corps not core. 

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8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That doesn't mean much.  There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL.  BTW it's corps not core. 

 

...sure as hell cannot leave QB's out....some of these guys STILL masquerading as NFL QB's could be busted for impersonation or extortion.......saddest position in the league IMO...

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10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That doesn't mean much.  There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL.  BTW it's corps not core. 

 

You act like there was an overabundance of them before. This team has been chasing slot receivers for the last two years, so it's not crazy to believe that we have no burners. I don't think it's a supply problem as much as it is questionable choices. The OL is no different. 

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9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That doesn't mean much.  There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL.  BTW it's corps not core. 

 

We’re not trying to sign a Julio Jones here.... We just need another guy like Coleman to be on the outs.   You know, the guy we got for a 7th round pick last week.  

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1 minute ago, Trogdor said:

 

You act like there was an overabundance of them before. This team has been chasing slot receivers for the last two years, so it's not crazy to believe that we have no burners. I don't think it's a supply problem as much as it is questionable choices. The OL is no different. 

 

That's why Coleman is here. 

 

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

We’re not trying to sign a Julio Jones here.... We just need another guy like Coleman to be on the outs.   You know, the guy we got for a 7th round pick last week.  

 

Fringe guys who might get cut can't be expected to make much of a contribution.  What I'm posting isn't even controversial. 

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15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That doesn't mean much.  There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL.  BTW it's corps not core. 

 

Yes.  Thanks.  Corps.  Stupid homophones.  Though I do think you love pointing out people's mistakes....

 

We shall see.  I still think the Bills pickup a WR and OL from other team's cuts.
 

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Just now, PIZ said:

 

Yes.  Thanks.  Corps.  Stupid homophones.  Though I do think you love pointing out people's mistakes....

 

We shall see.  I still think the Bills pickup a WR and OL from other team's cuts.

 

Just trying to help you out.  Maybe they will, but it'll be for depth or ST.  

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That's why Coleman is here. 

 

 

Fringe guys who might get cut can't be expected to make much of a contribution.  What I'm posting isn't even controversial. 

 

Yea but Coleman isn't very good as you point out. They had chances to address it, but decided to acquire more slot guys for their cannon armed pick. It's a very Billsy thing to do. 

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2 hours ago, All I Need is Hope said:

Considering Allen's deep accuracy and ridiculous arm and the dimension it brings to the offense that EVERY defense has to account for; do you think that Beane and co. are / should be actively looking for a proven (more proven than Coleman) deep threat?

 

I know that we can't get a Julio or AB, but maybe give up a player or pick for an upgrade?

 

 

 

 

Who do you suggest and what are you willing to pay?

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7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That's why Coleman is here. 

 

 

Fringe guys who might get cut can't be expected to make much of a contribution.  What I'm posting isn't even controversial. 

 

It’s not controversial. You just seem to be having a different conversation than everyone else.  

 

Coleman would be what this thread is referencing - “fairly proven deep threat”.   He’s proven he can take the top off, albeit inconsistent with injury issues. Cleveland’s new FO didn’t draft him, wanted their own guys and saved some money.  We got him for a 7th.   Guys like this come free in cuts/trades for whatever reasons.. cap hits, scheme, personality etc..  Others like him may become available and, if so, we should go after one. 

 

You act as though this thread says “#1 WR” or “#2 WR” or “Proven Deep Threat”.   Those guys probably aren’t becoming available. 

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6 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

Yes.  Thanks.  Corps.  Stupid homophones.  Though I do think you love pointing out people's mistakes....

 

We shall see.  I still think the Bills pickup a WR and OL from other team's cuts.
 

What kinda jerk doesnt like doing that!

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Just now, SCBills said:

 

It’s not controversial. You just seem to be having a different conversation than everyone else.  

 

Coleman would be what this thread is referencing - “fairly proven deep threat”.   He’s proven he can take the top off, albeit inconsistent with injury issues. Cleveland’s new FO didn’t draft him, wanted their own guys and saved some money.  We got him for a 7th.   Guys like this come free in cuts for whatever reasons.. cap hits, scheme, personality etc..

 

You act as though this thread says “#1 WR” or “#2 WR” or “Proven Deep Threat”.   Those guys probably aren’t becoming available. 

 

I'm having the same conversation and what I'm saying is players who will be released or otherwise made available after preseason aren't likely to make that much of a contribution.  

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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I'm having the same conversation and what I'm saying is players who will be released or otherwise made available after preseason aren't likely to make that much of a contribution.  

 

Not likely, but it happens, and may happen for us again.  You don’t need to look very far to find a late addition who made an impact..... 

 

We signed Deonta Thompson last October.  

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Just now, SCBills said:

 

Not likely, but it happens, and may happen for us again.  You don’t need to look very far to find a late addition who made an impact..... 

 

We signed Deonta Thompson last October.  

 

He did a nice job last season. 

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mcbeane met with coleman pre draft (prior to him being drafted.) they have been aware of him for a while and decided it was a good time to pull the trigger.

point being...they know him better than any of us or the media.  i trust and hope this kid comes around and becomes maybe a james lofton for us.

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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

If you are patient Sammy Watkins deal will be up after 2021.......and he'll still be 28 when he hits FA........Kelvin Benjamin will be 28 this winter when he hits FA.?

Trading a great deep threat like Watkins and then trading similar draft capital for KB and then drafting a perfect fit for Watkins in Josh Allen was bad feng shui.    

 

I really have difficulty understanding what McBeane have done with the Bills roster at WR.  It's not as though Goodwin and Woods commanded huge FA salaries or as though it was clear Matthews would be any kind of an upgrade.

 

1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said:

I get your point, and agree with you. But I think the O-line 1 and OL 2 aquitted themselves admirably in the last game. Allen was behind the 3's which was bad.

 

I am uncomfortable generalizing about our line based upon 1 preseason game, where we lack context about the opposing defensive players.

Well, I guess you can safely generalize about the 3's being awful

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