Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 Imagine if we still had Goodwin with Allen?
PIZ Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) On 8/11/2018 at 8:40 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Like I already said: "Highly doubtful with not enough good players." Expand Here's a link that shows the NFL WR corp for each team, ranking them from worst to first. It's from May, but still gets my point across. There will be some good WRs cut. Happens every year. Maybe not "name" guys, but guys that can play. Buffalo is at 32. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2777814-ranking-every-nfl-receiving-corps-heading-into-the-2018-season Edited August 11, 2018 by PIZ
26CornerBlitz Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 8:50 PM, PIZ said: Here's a link that shows the NFL WR core for each team, ranking them from worst to first. It's from May, but still gets my point across. There will be some good WRs cut. Happens every year. Maybe not "name" guys, but guys that can play. Buffalo is at 32. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2777814-ranking-every-nfl-receiving-corps-heading-into-the-2018-season Expand That doesn't mean much. There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL. BTW it's corps not core.
billsbackto81 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 6:21 PM, Jay_Fixit said: They should trade for someone like Corey Coleman. Lots of potential. Super fast. Expand I've heard of him.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 8:56 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: That doesn't mean much. There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL. BTW it's corps not core. Expand ...sure as hell cannot leave QB's out....some of these guys STILL masquerading as NFL QB's could be busted for impersonation or extortion.......saddest position in the league IMO... 1
Trogdor Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 8:56 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: That doesn't mean much. There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL. BTW it's corps not core. Expand You act like there was an overabundance of them before. This team has been chasing slot receivers for the last two years, so it's not crazy to believe that we have no burners. I don't think it's a supply problem as much as it is questionable choices. The OL is no different.
SCBills Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 8:56 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: That doesn't mean much. There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL. BTW it's corps not core. Expand We’re not trying to sign a Julio Jones here.... We just need another guy like Coleman to be on the outs. You know, the guy we got for a 7th round pick last week.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:09 PM, Trogdor said: You act like there was an overabundance of them before. This team has been chasing slot receivers for the last two years, so it's not crazy to believe that we have no burners. I don't think it's a supply problem as much as it is questionable choices. The OL is no different. Expand That's why Coleman is here. On 8/11/2018 at 9:09 PM, SCBills said: We’re not trying to sign a Julio Jones here.... We just need another guy like Coleman to be on the outs. You know, the guy we got for a 7th round pick last week. Expand Fringe guys who might get cut can't be expected to make much of a contribution. What I'm posting isn't even controversial.
PIZ Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 8:56 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: That doesn't mean much. There are simply not enough quality WRs in today's NFL game. It's the same with OL. BTW it's corps not core. Expand Yes. Thanks. Corps. Stupid homophones. Though I do think you love pointing out people's mistakes.... We shall see. I still think the Bills pickup a WR and OL from other team's cuts.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:13 PM, PIZ said: Yes. Thanks. Corps. Stupid homophones. Though I do think you love pointing out people's mistakes.... We shall see. I still think the Bills pickup a WR and OL from other team's cuts. Expand Just trying to help you out. Maybe they will, but it'll be for depth or ST. 1
Trogdor Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:12 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: That's why Coleman is here. Fringe guys who might get cut can't be expected to make much of a contribution. What I'm posting isn't even controversial. Expand Yea but Coleman isn't very good as you point out. They had chances to address it, but decided to acquire more slot guys for their cannon armed pick. It's a very Billsy thing to do.
Just Joshin' Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 6:19 PM, All I Need is Hope said: Considering Allen's deep accuracy and ridiculous arm and the dimension it brings to the offense that EVERY defense has to account for; do you think that Beane and co. are / should be actively looking for a proven (more proven than Coleman) deep threat? I know that we can't get a Julio or AB, but maybe give up a player or pick for an upgrade? Expand Who do you suggest and what are you willing to pay?
SCBills Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) On 8/11/2018 at 9:12 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: That's why Coleman is here. Fringe guys who might get cut can't be expected to make much of a contribution. What I'm posting isn't even controversial. Expand It’s not controversial. You just seem to be having a different conversation than everyone else. Coleman would be what this thread is referencing - “fairly proven deep threat”. He’s proven he can take the top off, albeit inconsistent with injury issues. Cleveland’s new FO didn’t draft him, wanted their own guys and saved some money. We got him for a 7th. Guys like this come free in cuts/trades for whatever reasons.. cap hits, scheme, personality etc.. Others like him may become available and, if so, we should go after one. You act as though this thread says “#1 WR” or “#2 WR” or “Proven Deep Threat”. Those guys probably aren’t becoming available. Edited August 11, 2018 by SCBills
snamsnoops Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:13 PM, PIZ said: Yes. Thanks. Corps. Stupid homophones. Though I do think you love pointing out people's mistakes.... We shall see. I still think the Bills pickup a WR and OL from other team's cuts. Expand What kinda jerk doesnt like doing that!
26CornerBlitz Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:19 PM, SCBills said: It’s not controversial. You just seem to be having a different conversation than everyone else. Coleman would be what this thread is referencing - “fairly proven deep threat”. He’s proven he can take the top off, albeit inconsistent with injury issues. Cleveland’s new FO didn’t draft him, wanted their own guys and saved some money. We got him for a 7th. Guys like this come free in cuts for whatever reasons.. cap hits, scheme, personality etc.. You act as though this thread says “#1 WR” or “#2 WR” or “Proven Deep Threat”. Those guys probably aren’t becoming available. Expand I'm having the same conversation and what I'm saying is players who will be released or otherwise made available after preseason aren't likely to make that much of a contribution.
SCBills Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:22 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm having the same conversation and what I'm saying is players who will be released or otherwise made available after preseason aren't likely to make that much of a contribution. Expand Not likely, but it happens, and may happen for us again. You don’t need to look very far to find a late addition who made an impact..... We signed Deonta Thompson last October.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 9:25 PM, SCBills said: Not likely, but it happens, and may happen for us again. You don’t need to look very far to find a late addition who made an impact..... We signed Deonta Thompson last October. Expand He did a nice job last season.
billsredneck1 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 mcbeane met with coleman pre draft (prior to him being drafted.) they have been aware of him for a while and decided it was a good time to pull the trigger. point being...they know him better than any of us or the media. i trust and hope this kid comes around and becomes maybe a james lofton for us.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 6:53 PM, BADOLBILZ said: If you are patient Sammy Watkins deal will be up after 2021.......and he'll still be 28 when he hits FA........Kelvin Benjamin will be 28 this winter when he hits FA.? Trading a great deep threat like Watkins and then trading similar draft capital for KB and then drafting a perfect fit for Watkins in Josh Allen was bad feng shui. Expand I really have difficulty understanding what McBeane have done with the Bills roster at WR. It's not as though Goodwin and Woods commanded huge FA salaries or as though it was clear Matthews would be any kind of an upgrade. On 8/11/2018 at 7:15 PM, RocCityRoller said: I get your point, and agree with you. But I think the O-line 1 and OL 2 aquitted themselves admirably in the last game. Allen was behind the 3's which was bad. Expand I am uncomfortable generalizing about our line based upon 1 preseason game, where we lack context about the opposing defensive players. Well, I guess you can safely generalize about the 3's being awful
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